Very cool about your son flying as a Billiken, and hope it helps him in some way. I'm pretty sure it's fairly basic stuff for a student of aviation, but nonetheless the physics is fascinating to me. It's not my line of work, just something we all experience when we fly and it's pretty cool to know what's going on. I knew about jet wash, but I didn't know it was more about the vortices coming off the wings and that they affect aircraft at lower altitudes. I also did not expect that they would affect military fighters, as I thought they'd just power through any turbulence created by another fighter. Apparently that's not so.
@RUTGERS95 Jet wash, vortices, descending vortices, sequential engine-size variables on takeoff, and so on. Completely digestible info.
@Joey Bags How many engines did they have—6? Were they Pratt & Whitney, or did Rolls Royce recover from WW2 by then and make them? Or perhaps Boeing? (Does Boeing even make engines?) I don’t know much about the B-52 other than a few things I picked up over the years. I saw one at an air show years ago and it pulled into an ascending turn as soon as it was wheels up, and even though it was empty I couldn’t believe the thing had that kind of power to maintain lift.
It was 2 months after, not 2 years. That's why there was HUGE concern it was terrorism.
It actually has 8 P&W engines on 4 pylons if you can believe it. Though by modern standards the engine technology is pretty antiquated hence the two engines per pylon design.
Boeing doesn't make engines as far as I know. GE, P&W and RR make engines.
Jet wash can cause a loss of control and result in a flat spin. Once that happens, you have to eject and watch out for the canopy.
I remember it well. Enrique Wilson's life was saved because Mariano Rivera blew the save in Game 7 of the 2001 World Series.It was 2 months after, not 2 years. That's why there was HUGE concern it was terrorism.
American Airlines Flight 587 - Wikipedia
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I remember that well. I stepped aside to let my boss take a trip to Los Angeles instead of taking the trip myself. Yes, I was still afraid to fly. He got in a nice round of golf with clients and was not concerned at all.It was 2 months after, not 2 years. That's why there was HUGE concern it was terrorism.
American Airlines Flight 587 - Wikipedia
@MCY What was that like--did you start to roll a little bit? Once in ground effect I think the dynamics make it harder to tip a wing, but for an Embraer that's probably within 30 feet of touchdown so my guess is you hit the vortex before that. And when those weird motions occur they can be seriously unsettling. Aircraft are incredibly stable, but your stomach doesn't know that when the craft suddenly goes in some weird direction.
Sounds like airports with dual runways such as O'Hare might themselves run into scheduling difficulties in spite of their additional capacity, simply because the same dynamic applies once they're at full throughput. But it gives them more scheduling options vis-a-vis aircraft size, unless the location of terminals dictates where the aircraft can be set down.
exactly.. sudden loss of lift which is generated by speed and the wing shape and oncoming winds... jetwash can change that formula rather dramatically.
