OT: UNC Scandal Course @ UNC is Shut Down...

[RUinPinehurst]

N&O article reports: "A UNC course that dealt with athletics scandal is canceled. Now some want to know why"

The course, “Big-Time College Sports and the Rights of Athletes, 1956 to the present,” was taught last summer and fall by history professor Jay Smith. Smith, you may recall, wrote "Cheated" along with Mary Willingham, the book that chronicled UNC's athletics-driven cheating scandal.

The course, History 383, had been taught last year, with solid student reviews. The admin thought otherwise, and struck it from the schedule this year.

Comically, UNC AD "Bubba" Cunningham offered to teach the course himself, although he had denied Smith's request for his class to tour the athletics facility.

Linky: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/article154031604.html

 

[ruready07]

You can't make this stuff up.

Jay Smith's intentions seem noble and in the right.

The one line that means the most in this scandal or any other scandal that any school goes through, talks about whether the schools are learning from their punishments or just focused on managing perception. Lack of accountability is the sin that is overtaking our society. Never admit you're wrong and just fight until a lawyer can twist and bend the truth so many ways that the issue at hand is unrecognizable.


(If one member of the TEAM screws up, the whole team runs). That way of doing things sure seemed to have better results than the current

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

UNC knows they aren't going to hit them in any serious way and basically are sending "F Yous" in every direction they can @NCAA because they feel they are the ones being inconvenienced. If this happened at even a place like San Jose State it would have been the end for the Athletic Department. The NCAA's last thing to hang their hat on in any way is the money from March Madness. They have lost everything else when it comes to the power schools.

 

[tico brown]

If this was Rutgers back in the time of the "Dean Smith Days," they would've been given Death and dropped down so far, their biggest rivals would've Rutgers-Newark and Rutgers Camden when they became eligible to play again.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

Again, August 16-17 is the date of the NCAA COI hearing dealing with UNC. Should UNC not receive any significant sanctions, there are rumblings that some ACC schools may object, to the point of boycotting UNC athletics. ACC alumni $ are at risk, pressuring the decisions. That sentiment may cascade across the NCAA. If the NCAA as an association will not administer justice, some of its member institutions might. There is the cheating itself and the resulting competitive advantage, and then there is the way the school has handled itself through the ordeal.

 

[Plum Street]

Again, August 16-17 is the date of the NCAA COI hearing dealing with UNC. Should UNC not receive any significant sanctions, there are rumblings that some ACC schools may object, to the point of boycotting UNC athletics. ACC alumni $ are at risk, pressuring the decisions. That sentiment may cascade across the NCAA. If the NCAA as an association will not administer justice, some of its member institutions might. There is the cheating itself and the resulting competitive advantage, and then there is the way the school has handled itself through the ordeal.

This would be interesting. Is there a story on this from a reputable news site?

 

[RUinPinehurst]

This would be interesting. Is there a story on this from a reputable news site?

Negative. Not at this time.

 

[Plum Street]

Negative. Not at this time.

Then how can we take that seriously? UNC will get slapped on the wrist, maybe vacate some wins and life goes on with them playing in final fours.

 

[Underdogs88]

UNC knows they aren't going to hit them in any serious way and basically are sending "F Yous" in every direction they can @NCAA because they feel they are the ones being inconvenienced. If this happened at even a place like San Jose State it would have been the end for the Athletic Department. The NCAA's last thing to hang their hat on in any way is the money from March Madness. They have lost everything else when it comes to the power schools.

The NCAA better realize if they don't punish UNC hard they are setting precedent.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

At least one former UNC athlete seems to get it.

“The amount of time and resources UNC has exhausted to fight the idea that systemic academic fraud existed is frustrating and angering,” Jackson wrote. “Wouldn’t it have been better, and honest and ethical, to stop resisting, admit the academic fraud also included people employed in Athletics, investigate to learn how this played out, and set up best practices going forward?”

Linky: www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article154080394.html

 

[RUinPinehurst]

Then how can we take that seriously? UNC will get slapped on the wrist, maybe vacate some wins and life goes on with them playing in final fours.

Whether or not you choose to take "it" seriously is up to "you," sport. I'm simply sharing some observations, witnessed first-hand. Whether those sentiments morph into actions is to be determined. Whether the media addresses the topic/story is irrelevant.

 

[Plum Street]

Whether or not you choose to take "it" seriously is up to "you," sport. I'm simply sharing some observations, witnessed first-hand. Whether those sentiments morph into actions is to be determined. Whether the media addresses the topic/story is irrelevant.

You witnessed first hand actual representatives and alumni of ACC schools actually discussing punishing North Carolina?
I hope UNC gets seriously punished someway, somehow

 

[RUinPinehurst]

You witnessed first hand actual representatives and alumni of ACC schools actually discussing punishing North Carolina?
I hope UNC gets seriously punished someway, somehow

Affirmative but in terms of boycotting UNC athletics not "punishing" them.

 

[_dave_]

Boycotting will get some lip service until the conference and ESPN say, "shut up." and then that will be the end of that talk.

 

[REDRICH65]

So which do you think was worse; the Penn State case or UNCs ? You see how easy PED STATE got off. Don' t expect much of a penalty for the Tar Heels.