OT: Wimsatt in the portal
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Good luck to Gavin. Rooting for this kid.
Wimsatt lovers defending their incorrect opinion to their death!
Turn the page, he wasn't a good QB. I feel bad for the person/business that put up the NIL money. Not a good business plan!
Turn the page, he wasn't a good QB. I feel bad for the person/business that put up the NIL money. Not a good business plan!
Good for him or any Western outfits looking for a scatter gun to round out the crew.
Imagine how much this kid is gonna make in his 5 year college career with marginal achievements at best. What a new system.
Imagine how much this kid is gonna make in his 5 year college career with marginal achievements at best. What a new system.
He’s perfect for a bad “mid-major” team with a few good O lineman. He at least raises the floor in terms of wins just based on his running ability and a coach might keep himself off the hot seat by winning 6 games. He just played a season in the SEC which produces NFL DB’s by the bucket full!
Does this mean he isn't going to win the Heisman?
Fieldhouse Al of La Mancha will anoint him winner of something else, something more romantic in Al’s fantasies
He was the starting QB and captain of our third best team in our BIG history.
I do agree he wasn’t a good QB , so that’s a sad statistic
Rutgers won because of the defense and Kyle. If you really think Wimsatt was a star as a player well....
He played only one full season and it was his last and he never was replaced by the NIL deal and they wanted to keep in touch with the $$ source.
Worst QB in my lifetime!
At a lower level, where his athleticism would be even a bigger threat to run, and run over smaller opponents, I think he could light it up
He set a Rutgers record for running yards (season) and running TDs - he led B1G - opponent size wasn't a problem.
He was a dual threat QB playing for a coach who doesn't like running QBs, and a staff that changed every year without any idea how to coach QBs (and he left HS a year early when he shouldn't have - GS agreed). Oh and his WRs were worst crew in years, and he wasn't allowed to throw long, because of OL (GS said). GW is just another QB wreck in RU's wake (I mean even Savage got wrecked at RU)
“I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.” - Mike Teel
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.
Paging the defense and Klye in regards to the third best team. Gavin just happpened to be the one taking the snaps.
Then he should play running backHe set a Rutgers record for running yards (season) and running TDs - he led B1G - opponent size wasn't a problem.
He was a dual threat QB playing for a coach who doesn't like running QBs, and a staff that changed every year without any idea how to coach QBs (and he left HS a year early when he shouldn't have - GS agreed). Oh and his WRs were worst crew in years, and he wasn't allowed to throw long, because of OL (GS said). GW is just another QB wreck in RU's wake (I mean even Savage got wrecked at RU)
“I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.” - Mike Teel
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.www.nj.com
He set a Rutgers record for running yards (season) and running TDs - he led B1G - opponent size wasn't a problem.
He was a dual threat QB playing for a coach who doesn't like running QBs, and a staff that changed every year without any idea how to coach QBs (and he left HS a year early when he shouldn't have - GS agreed). Oh and his WRs were worst crew in years, and he wasn't allowed to throw long, because of OL (GS said). GW is just another QB wreck in RU's wake (I mean even Savage got wrecked at RU)
“I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.” - Mike Teel
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.
He’s really just not though. Nothing against the kid, but when you think big picture, his running wasn’t even that much better than AK’s (who is not a run first type QB).
On the season he netted netted 250 rush yards more than him, but he also had 42 more attempts (that’s 3+ extra tries a game and in Gavin’s case, nearly every one of those attempts was a QB draw designed specifically for him to run). Thats not how most QBs pick up yards. That’s what RBs are for.
It doesn’t seem unreasonable to think a healthy AK could’ve rushed for at least 10 more yards per game on average (120 more yards) if we ran 3-4 more design rush plays for him (very few of AK’s carries were QB draws). Most were scrambles.
Then you also have to consider that AK clearly dealt with some kind of lower body issue that put him in a bulky knee brace for many games. When Gavin played with compromised mobility at the end of 2022 due to injury, he didn’t pick up rush yardage either.
I’m not trying to say that AK is some great runner - the point is when you compare the two, it’s obvious you’ve been making Gavin out to be something he’s not. I’m sure a lot of QBs would pick up significantly more total personal rush yards if their offense designed more QB draws specifically blocking for them. But that’s generally not going to win you many games. We wouldn’t have had anything close to 6 wins last year with this year’s defense. Thats not even debatable in my mind at this point.
Neither, I think. Probably should take the timing of what he said into context. Gavin, after all, was the starting QB on a team that had qualified for a bowl for the first time in 9 years. As you alluded in other threads - at the time, one could make an argument that he was a “Rutgers star” by association - or something along those lines. He played the position of leader on a team that by Rutgers metrics was successful. So the timing was right to say positive things about him.
But the flip side to that, of course, is none of that means he possesses the skills to be a successful QB at the FBS level (and possibly not even a step down). It just means he wasn’t bad enough to hold a team that excelled in other areas back. That team had the success it did because we had a top 25 D, a solid OL and a super star RB and our QB was kept on a leash to avoid bad turnovers we couldn’t afford. Credit him for executing a couple great rush plays for big yardage that were made possible on large part by the threat of our star RB. The folks who argued the reverse were proven wrong this season. Kyle’s rushing was not helped by the threat of Gavin. Rather - the opposite.
He set a Rutgers record for running yards (season) and running TDs - he led B1G - opponent size wasn't a problem.
He was a dual threat QB playing for a coach who doesn't like running QBs, and a staff that changed every year without any idea how to coach QBs (and he left HS a year early when he shouldn't have - GS agreed). Oh and his WRs were worst crew in years, and he wasn't allowed to throw long, because of OL (GS said). GW is just another QB wreck in RU's wake (I mean even Savage got wrecked at RU)
“I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.” - Mike Teel
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.
He can’t be trusted to pass the ball.
That’s a trait usually required of a modern day QB.
I sincerely hope he does well wherever he lands and wish him the best.
So why even ask a so called expert for analysis or an opinion if we are just going to disregard it anyway.?
Agree with Teel on what? That GW was the best option in 2023, and the staff found a way to leverage his skill set to a successful season. I will agree with that. But unless he plays for Army or Navy or a very limited number of teams, he has not been able the most important skill set of a QB- to accurately and consistently throw the ball. Does it matter that with 3 years of experience, he was not able to beat out 2 much younger freshman or sophomore QBs at Kentucky?
He probably would have been a great option QB at Army or Navy.
He was a running QB when told to run. He rarely used his legs to extend plays or take off when coverage was down field.He set a Rutgers record for running yards (season) and running TDs - he led B1G - opponent size wasn't a problem.
He was a dual threat QB playing for a coach who doesn't like running QBs, and a staff that changed every year without any idea how to coach QBs (and he left HS a year early when he shouldn't have - GS agreed). Oh and his WRs were worst crew in years, and he wasn't allowed to throw long, because of OL (GS said). GW is just another QB wreck in RU's wake (I mean even Savage got wrecked at RU)
“I think you always have to judge a quarterback based upon what the record is and how the team does,” Teel said. “At the end of the day, the kid did win seven games this past year, and he did lead the team to a bowl win. Overall, I think he did a great job.” - Mike Teel
How Rutgers’ Gavin Wimsatt went from trumpeted recruit to another QB failure
Gavin Wimsatt was once seen as Rutgers football's quarterback of the future. That hope officially died when he entered the transfer portal late last month.
I do not know if he did not have that freedom from the OC( AK clearly has that freedom).
This to me was always his biggest issue. He didnt use his athletic ability to extend or create.
I think you know the answer to your question.
My opinion has been. Gavin wasn’t trusted with decision making and his ball security. Everything was scripted and he wasn’t allowed or trusted to improvise. Gavin was given a limited version of a very limited playbook that Kirk employs. Gavin was not trusted to make simple RPO reads, not trusted to throw over the middle, and wasn’t given the green light to run to escape when the pocket broke down.
That is my opinion also. I believe he struggled to read full fields and make correct decisions.
I actually think our rollout RPO we run this year would have been perfect for him.
That being said I love AK, especially in the play action game.
You are taking it out of context. I am asking a direct and simple question. Should we agree with teel that “Gavin did a great job “
That is a direct quote from teel
People used to complain about Teel not running.
A reporter asked him about not running and he said "coach told me not to."
Not letting a QB run would line-up pretty neatly with Schiano's crippling "saftyism."
Millen and other announcers kept expressing surprise GW wasn't running more.
Most dual threat QBs are a few clicks down on passing skills.
Recruiting one and limiting his running while using only short passes to short receivers is being set-up to fail - three years in and kid was still throwing off-balance.
AK was mediocre at best for almost first half of season.
Passes sailing all over and defenders were knowing the plays.
With Mongo injury RU coaches had to take the straight jackets off and AK was on fire.
Its never been my intention to say GW was a great QB who should have stayed starter.
I just think RU QB coaching is a long running toxic dump.
GW would have been better off taking other offers ( ND, Oregon, Michigan et al) but his parents went for the GS character vibe and GW took only one visit - to RU.
GW was best BG QB vs Michigan in 2023 aside from OSU's QB.
People around here burn him in effigy as if the worst player RU ever drafted but he had some skills
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So then why even bother asking an expert for analysis ? If we are going to disregard it anyway
Because it’s all just sports discussion on a message board. Shouldn’t be surprising that there are a variety of opinions.
But I would think an expert that played the position (for this HC ) knows more than some random people on a message board.
Wow another wild excuse for a guy that was one dimensional playing at a multi dimension position.
As a Back up, duhhh. Probably was a better RB than QB as his two college stops has shown.
