agree and it's beyond odd that people defend the abilities of the kid in the manner in which they do given the litany of evidence to the contrary
I am curious where he winds up though
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I am curious where he winds up though
His whole recruitment was odd. Even while leading his school to a state championship in 5a and being four stars his offer sheet was light. In state Tennessee didn’t offer and none of the top SEC programs offered. Now looking back he was very overrated by the recruiting services but it seems like coaches saw it too. His biggest mistake was not staying in high school. He was not ready and it was stupid to enroll mid season. His second mistake was not switching positions. It was obvious he simply wasn’t a qb.
Was the NIL money important to his family? If so, would it be the reason he left early?
Guess Notre Dame offering him was a sign he was overrated.
Michigan and Oregon offered as well.
Gavin had some mighty fine offers and he chose Rutgers.
The talent was there, harnessing it is/was the problem
Sometimes programs understand recruits aren't interested in than and don't offer.
Also Gavin reclassified ( a quick google would produce this "Wimsatt would have been an older 2022 prospect but nothing out of the ordinary (October 2003 date of birth), but reclassifying to 2021 made him very young for that cycle — and losing a year of live action in high school could have stunted his long-term development.")
Unless you know why, don't try to use non offers to knock a kids talent and post BS implications trying to make a college player less then he was coming out of HS.
Here's an article showing Notre Dame's interest and note the date Gavin's class of is in it
>Nation’s Top Dual-Threat Quarterback Gavin Wimsatt Breaks Down Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football Offer
“[Rees] told me that they usually offer two quarterbacks every year and that I was under consideration,” Wimsatt said. “I was hoping it would be an offer.”
And an offer it was. Wimsatt and Oradell (N.J.) Bergen Catholic’s Steven Angeli were the recipients of the Irish’s first two scholarships at quarterback for 2022.<
Nation’s Top Dual-Threat QB Breaks Down Notre Dame Offer
Kentucky product Gavin Wimsatt, Rivals’ No. 50 overall prospect in America, added the Irish to his offer list Monday.
Funny that a Colorado Buffalo fan is telling a PSU fan to get off the Rutgers Board! The two of you should join forces with the FSU fan on here about who's allowed on this board. 🤣🤣JoPa and crew:
Dirty @ass Pedophile State U.
You're not welcomed here.
Hey dummy that Colorado fan played football for Rutgers, now climb back under your rock
besides playing for RU cubuffsdoug won the Frank Burns Award
I'm guessing the bus was just messing with cubuffsdoug
over playing for Colorado before transferring to RU
I thought the 🤣🤣 was a big hint. Guess not! We've actually met before too!
so 'trust the experts' vs your own eyes lol I never trust the experts because our own wanted Vedral in year 3!
90% of the posters on this board did not know you were joking or that Doug played football for RU
don't think anyone cares about the joke or who Doug played for. you guys keep this nonsense going are weird, like suck up weird
I'm surprised because this was common jab between him when after I first found out years ago who he really was. He doesn't post much so when the opportunity presents itself, one of us will take it. I'm a former Rutgers player too. He was way better than me.
Also wake up. When someone ends a comment with "🤣🤣" it's not serious!
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GW has 2 possibly uncorrectable issues.. his lanky frame gives him a long wind-up with his throws and the other is footspeed.. quick feet.. he doesn't seem to have that.. he has speed.. but he has long strides that take time to get going.
That could make him incompatible with high-level QBing.
But he had other issues also that might have helped..
His reads are slow.. it seems.. unless his first read is open.. he has hit some of those nicely.
Footwork is bad.. not talking about quick feet here.. just making sure everything is set an pointed properly.. getting ready to to throw in a fashion where there is a standard.. a repeatable standard. GW was all over the place with his feet and they were seemingly independent from where he intended to throw and I think that added to his inaccuracy. I always contended that if we rolled him out that the motion of moving with insure his feet were involved in his throwing motion and, oddly, he might be more accurate overall... still not accurate.. just more accurate than he had been... might have helped him decide to run for yardage with.. a running start.. helping with his lack of quickness.
It is the things he SHOULD have improved upon but did not.. that is why I wanted a change at QB.. badly. I wished him the best.. but he couldn't be my QB anymore. Whose fault was his lack of improvement? I think it was his fault alone. He was either incapable of positive change or unwilling.
That could make him incompatible with high-level QBing.
But he had other issues also that might have helped..
His reads are slow.. it seems.. unless his first read is open.. he has hit some of those nicely.
Footwork is bad.. not talking about quick feet here.. just making sure everything is set an pointed properly.. getting ready to to throw in a fashion where there is a standard.. a repeatable standard. GW was all over the place with his feet and they were seemingly independent from where he intended to throw and I think that added to his inaccuracy. I always contended that if we rolled him out that the motion of moving with insure his feet were involved in his throwing motion and, oddly, he might be more accurate overall... still not accurate.. just more accurate than he had been... might have helped him decide to run for yardage with.. a running start.. helping with his lack of quickness.
It is the things he SHOULD have improved upon but did not.. that is why I wanted a change at QB.. badly. I wished him the best.. but he couldn't be my QB anymore. Whose fault was his lack of improvement? I think it was his fault alone. He was either incapable of positive change or unwilling.
Guess Notre Dame offering him was a sign he was overrated.
Michigan and Oregon offered as well.
Gavin had some mighty fine offers and he chose Rutgers.
The talent was there, harnessing it is/was the problem
Sometimes programs understand recruits aren't interested in than and don't offer.
Also Gavin reclassified ( a quick google would produce this "Wimsatt would have been an older 2022 prospect but nothing out of the ordinary (October 2003 date of birth), but reclassifying to 2021 made him very young for that cycle — and losing a year of live action in high school could have stunted his long-term development.")
Unless you know why, don't try to use non offers to knock a kids talent and post BS implications trying to make a college player less then he was coming out of HS.
Here's an article showing Notre Dame's interest and note the date Gavin's class of is in it
>Nation’s Top Dual-Threat Quarterback Gavin Wimsatt Breaks Down Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football Offer
“[Rees] told me that they usually offer two quarterbacks every year and that I was under consideration,” Wimsatt said. “I was hoping it would be an offer.”
And an offer it was. Wimsatt and Oradell (N.J.) Bergen Catholic’s Steven Angeli were the recipients of the Irish’s first two scholarships at quarterback for 2022.<
Nation’s Top Dual-Threat QB Breaks Down Notre Dame Offer
Kentucky product Gavin Wimsatt, Rivals’ No. 50 overall prospect in America, added the Irish to his offer list Monday.notredame.rivals.com
I can't understand anyone thinking GW had weak offers with 5 (as a JR) alone from B1G teams - and from programs that understand QB spot. ND only offers two QBs a year and GW was one. Think RU knows QBs better than ND, Oregon, Michigan, Louisville (Lamar and Bridgewater in same decade) and others?
First time I saw his HS highlights I saw why he had good offers and his running was #1 - the player just ate real estate. Like Tiquan Underwood he didn't look fast but TU ran a 4.36 at NFL Combine (42" vertical along with smallest hands lol). Guys like that seem slow but then they blow past you - its deceptive.
We always hear that good coaches use systems that fit their players and they don't force players to conform to a system not good for them. Great track sprinters can't be distance runners and vice versa. Its not a matter of weight as much as two different muscle fiber groups (fast vs slow twitch). Putting a record setting 1000m runner in a 4x100 relay would never make sense.
GW was never going to be a 60%+ passer but he had other skills - skills that RU was never going to highlight. GW was like the distance runner that RU wanted as a sprinter. Other schools that offered GW understood his passing needed work. Those programs had the WRs, OLs and coaches to provide that - RU didn't.
He was going to have an uphill battle with poor pass blocking (GS said no blocking for long passes in 23), mediocre WRs not up to past RU, BE WRs. Add-in too many coaches/OC changes who were not proven QB developers in a system the seeks safety first and its no surprise GW couldn't maximize.
Most people blame GW but I never saw it that way (and I said early that his long passes were too high at a time fans were falling over for the distance). I realized RU was bad at QBs when Nova was forcing passes over and over, and even 4 INT games were allowed (PSU DB coach promised his DBs 4 INTs vs Nova and they got 5). It took Fridge to fix the obvious problem in senior year
Like the Jets, RU just stinks for QBs.
RU wanted "safe" game managers who were stuck playing with constant position/coaching weaknesses. Opposing DCs weren't staying-up late the weeks of RU games.
Minnesota under Fleck had the same hitchy, offensive philosophy that RU had. AK was struggling with that at Minn and he was struggling again as RU season began. He can get frantic and zip erratic passes all over the place. Only when KM went down and passing game was adjusted did AK find his groove.
For me that just confirmed how dysfunctional RUs offensive philosophy had been (add in atrocious red zones to bad passing games). I've pretty much lost hope that RU will alter its self destruction on offense. GS needs Ohio St recruits to have a hope of his "strategy" ever working and even then he would have problems. I've been hearing "we'll get there" for 20 years. Its tiring to hope for a team to excel when the vehicle to get there is based on safe mediocrity and yearly position weaknesses
For those acting like GW's time as a RU player was the programs fault he never proved to be what thought.
Gavin was just one of thousands of HS talent that just couldn't preform as a college player.
Some peak out in HS and just don't develop into good college players.
Art Sitkowsaki was another Rutgers player that was highly thought of when he committed, but like Wimsatt, Sit left the program for another and didn't show he had what it takes to be the starter.
Sit now is in coaching so it might be said he knows what it takes to succeed as a player, he just couldn't harness his talent to be able to succeed as a starter, but by all accounts was a great teammate.
Gavin will have another shot to prove himself and be a successful College QB but I feel his best chance to do that is at a FCS program .
Wimsatt's passing is a weakness playing a P-5 schedule and the few good games he played at Rutgers couldn't overcome his overall performance when Rutgers decided who should be the starting QB.
At Kentucky Gavin didn't show he had what it takes to be their starter or even the next best option because he finished the season as the #3 QB on the depth chart and that probably is the reason he's looking for a new home to play at.
Wimsatt had enough talent as a HS player to be considered a real good prospect, but as a college player Gavin seems not to have been able to devolope his talent to be a starter at the FBS level for the two programs he played at.
Let''s hope the third time is a charm and I feel that charm might be found at a FCS program.
Gavin was just one of thousands of HS talent that just couldn't preform as a college player.
Some peak out in HS and just don't develop into good college players.
Art Sitkowsaki was another Rutgers player that was highly thought of when he committed, but like Wimsatt, Sit left the program for another and didn't show he had what it takes to be the starter.
Sit now is in coaching so it might be said he knows what it takes to succeed as a player, he just couldn't harness his talent to be able to succeed as a starter, but by all accounts was a great teammate.
Gavin will have another shot to prove himself and be a successful College QB but I feel his best chance to do that is at a FCS program .
Wimsatt's passing is a weakness playing a P-5 schedule and the few good games he played at Rutgers couldn't overcome his overall performance when Rutgers decided who should be the starting QB.
At Kentucky Gavin didn't show he had what it takes to be their starter or even the next best option because he finished the season as the #3 QB on the depth chart and that probably is the reason he's looking for a new home to play at.
Wimsatt had enough talent as a HS player to be considered a real good prospect, but as a college player Gavin seems not to have been able to devolope his talent to be a starter at the FBS level for the two programs he played at.
Let''s hope the third time is a charm and I feel that charm might be found at a FCS program.
Offense looked decent down the stretch this year, reminded me of the step forward the passing game took in the second half of the 2006 season. Maybe something that carries into 2025.
Agree on GW, he’s objectively a weak passer, but there’s more than one way to skin the cat and with him and KM in the backfield we had a good ground game, fielded a competitive team, and posted the first winning season in years. That style of football frustrated the message board, but it was the appropriate philosophy for our personnel at the time.
"But it was the appropriate philosophy for our personnel at the time." You're exactly right. Still, it made sense to get a different QB who is a better passer and who gives an additional dimension to our offense. That allows us to change to a philosophy that can be more successful.
Yeah, I had no problem with the change, but ultimately I don’t think it’s that one style is superior than another…whatever you choose to do, you have to be comfortable, commit to it, and execute it well.
At least he stays in the FBS and Jacksonville State won the Conference USA championship this year.
Played on one of our few teams to beat WVU. Good clip of him on YT laying out a WVU player in the old ass splinter stadium!
Sure, why not? He didn't develop the way we had hoped, but that doesn't make him a bad person.
phew.. I htought you were losing it. Def been here long enough to know CUbuffs~ pedigree
I wish Wimsatt well and hope he succeeds at JSU and leads them to a bowl game
Clint Trickett is the new OC there and Gavin will have just as good a chance as anyone to win the
starting QB spot. I believe last year's starter Tyler Huff is out of eligibility
Yes, Huff is out of eligibility. He was a grad transfer from Furman.
Um, this is a tweet about a Kentucky State Trooper getting into an accident in the snow ...
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