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Pac-12 Confirms Meeting With Houston Athletic Director

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They've got a struggling TV network and Houston comes with little trouble and a high reward. I want the Cougars in the Big Ten so bad. It would really benefit the TV network and Big Ten West recruiting.
 
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This could very well Force the big 12 to get out of Tornado Alley and into Southern California. The B12 is to Texas Centric. They need an infusion of California, Florida or SEC region schools like Memphis, Tulane or ECU. These are school thatll hold their own when you consider the market, recruiting ground and low academic standards for admission. Memphis ECU UCF USF can all powers overnight because of their low academic.
 
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The BIG-12 problem is that it is too narrow focused with most of it's schools located in the same state.

The same is true for the PAC-12, expanding to Texas is about as far east as they can go within reason.

I wouldn't bet that anything comes of this however.
 
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Those 2300 mile road trips between Seattle and Houston should be fun for athletes and fans alike.
 
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There is no reason for PAC-12 to need to flirt if they want to expand they can just announced it like B10 did before Nebraska.

I'm pretty sure most of the B10 will send them offer letters.
 
UT had great difficulty getting cable operators to carry the Longhorn Network, but Houston will solve the PAC-12 Network's problems. Nah.
 
not going to happen. I think the B1G media deal runs out right around the same time the Big 12 deal ends. Coincidence, or a plan to take in 2 Big 12 teams.
 
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Houston has a great football coach and, therefore, a great football right now but overall it still lacks the institutional stature to attract an invitation from the Pac12 (or the B1G). Stanford, Cal, and UCLA would want no part of that alliance, would be my guess.

Perhaps the Pac12 commissioner was just asking the Houston folks if he could have a copy of the film of the iconic UH-UCLA basketball game played at the Astrodome in, IIRC, January 1968.
 
STOP IT

The Pac-12, like the Big 10, is a conference made up of large state universities....

Houston DOES NOT fit this mold...and is not on the Pac-12 radar for real

Larry Scott is a smart man...the way you get Texas (and Oklahoma) into the pac12 is talking to everyone else in the region and getting the big guys to take notice and wonder where their home is...and to get them to be the alpha dog and get the wheels spinning on where they want to be long term...
 
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STOP IT

The Pac-12, like the Big 10, is a conference made up of large state universities....

Houston DOES NOT fit this mold...and is not on the Pac-12 radar for real

Larry Scott is a smart man...the way you get Texas (and Oklahoma) into the pac12 is talking to everyone else in the region and getting the big guys to take notice and wonder where their home is...and to get them to be the alpha dog and get the wheels spinning on where they want to be long term...
Oklahoma? The Pac-12 can offer Oklahoma today and they're gone tomorrow. It's about TV Market and not about State universities. The Pac-12 has a struggling TV network. Houston's a better fix than Oklahoma. Expansions a whole new ball game because of the TV networks.
 
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STOP IT

The Pac-12, like the Big 10, is a conference made up of large state universities....

Houston DOES NOT fit this mold...and is not on the Pac-12 radar for real

Larry Scott is a smart man...the way you get Texas (and Oklahoma) into the pac12 is talking to everyone else in the region and getting the big guys to take notice and wonder where their home is...and to get them to be the alpha dog and get the wheels spinning on where they want to be long term...
Larry Scott and most of the PAC AD's are idiots. The PAC still doesn't have a deal with DTV which means over half the US can't see PAC games at home. To make it even worse Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. were begging to join the PAC back in 2012. Larry Scott and the powers that be told the Okie schools that Texas and TT would have to be part of the deal. Texas wasn't about to relinquish its rights to the LHN and the deal fell through.

What Scott should have done was grabbed both Okie schools seeing how it would have destroyed the Big 12 and forced Texas hand. The PAC would have looked something like this ...

PAC-16

PAC North
Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon St.
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC

PAC East
Arizona
Arizona St.
Utah
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Texas Tech
Texas
 
Didn't this meeting happen a month ago? And didn't the AD basically say it had nothing to do with expansion?


The Pac12 ain't taking Houston. They make the mistake and take Texas.
 
The P5 is really the P3 + the ACC and the Big12. I think eventually one of the bottom 2 will fall apart. It's starting to look like the Big12 will eventually crumble and the NCAA will get their Power 4.

Houston going to the PAC12 is laughable. Doesn't fit the profile in any way.
 
Oklahoma? The Pac-12 can offer Oklahoma today and they're gone tomorrow. It's about TV Market and not about State universities. The Pac-12 has a struggling TV network. Houston's a better fix than Oklahoma. Expansions a whole new ball game because of the TV networks.

lol com'on BAMM are you joking? Do you want to compare the ratings for a slate of national TV games (OU) to regional games for Houston? Give me a break.
 
Obviously the Pac-12 is not going to go to an odd number of schools. If teams are going to go to Texas, then there needs to be a travel partner nearby. Keep in mind also that Houston is in the central time zone -- two hours away from Pacific time. That means that evening games on the west coast are going to start and end pretty late, and that games at Houston will start pretty early Pacific time. I think this works only if another Texas or Oklahoma school comes in.
 
lol com'on BAMM are you joking? Do you want to compare the ratings for a slate of national TV games (OU) to regional games for Houston? Give me a break.
You want talk about ratings? I guarantee the top 10 Houston vs top 10 USC game brings ridiculous ratings. These conferences need to make moves for the future and not for the old fogies that are still stuck on tradition. These Millennials only want to be entertained.
 
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If the Big 12 expands and Houston is kept out by Texas, expect Houston to make a big push to get their boosters to donate enough funding to Cougar athletics that will have the PAC think about adding them.
The drawback would be : who the PAC would bring in with Houston that might add value.
Colorado St isn't going to help since the PAC already has Colorado and BYU isn't needed because Utah is a member.
Not many non P-5 choices and don't think the PAC could get Oklahoma to leave the B-12 to join Houston . If Oklahoma leaves the B-12 you can bet it's because Texas decided to get out and I doubt the Longhorns would want to leave the conference they have so much say in the way its run to be just another voice in another.
Boise St only adds a name, nothing else.
 
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Those 2300 mile road trips between Seattle and Houston should be fun for athletes and fans alike.
Not too terribly different than Syracuse or Boston to Miami. Not many people are driving any of those for a regular season game.
 
Not too terribly different than Syracuse or Boston to Miami. Not many people are driving any of those for a regular season game.

The trip from Boston to Miami is a little under 1500 miles, with no need to change time zones. (Seattle to Houston is a two-hour time zone change, enough to be annoying.) And while I didn't look it up, my guess is there are more flights between Boston and Miami -- due to snowbirds, as Floridians call them -- than between Seattle and Houston. So I'm not sure I agree with Nosoj. OTOH, I think it's great that Nosoj gave us the link to the article about Houston's attendance. We had to show that we could attract big crowds before we got into the B1G, and Houston needs to do the same.
 
The trip from Boston to Miami is a little under 1500 miles, with no need to change time zones. (Seattle to Houston is a two-hour time zone change, enough to be annoying.) And while I didn't look it up, my guess is there are more flights between Boston and Miami -- due to snowbirds, as Floridians call them -- than between Seattle and Houston. So I'm not sure I agree with Nosoj. OTOH, I think it's great that Nosoj gave us the link to the article about Houston's attendance. We had to show that we could attract big crowds before we got into the B1G, and Houston needs to do the same.
Fair enough. A quick Google search shows direct flights from Houston to Seattle, but no direct flights from Syracuse to Miami, making Syracuse to Miami a longer trip, time wise. Great points about the time zones though, not something I considered in my original response. As well, Houston and Washington would also be exceedingly unlikely to be in the same division, so this would likely only be an issue one year out of 4 or so for each fan base.
 
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