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You are CORRECT!!! :fistbump:
@RU96inNC I was not at the Rutgers game, I was in Florida at Montverde Academy's game.
Oh okay @Russ Wood - thought you said you may go! Guessing you didn’t watch either them if at Montverde’s game.
I haven't had a chance to watch the whole FSU at Rutgers game. It has just been difficult between games I've had to cover, HS games, and watching scout video so I can write game previews.
I did watch every FSU possession after a time out (ATO) and I watched each FSU possession of the final 5:20 of the game.
For the most part I liked what I saw from Rutgers' defense. Looked like they showed zone at one point but was mostly in man ATOs and in the final 5:20.
When the score was 69-66 I was stunned that Sanders and Freeman got so lazy on the P&R play when Walker, who didn't use the screen, went downhill to score with 1:22 left. Instead of moving his feet and sliding to his left to force Walker wide, Sanders chose to reach around the back of Walker in an attempt to poke the ball out. Then Freeman, who was guarding the B1G logo, didn't slide to his left and/or get wide by extending his arms out to his side to cut off Walker. To make matters even worse Eugene Omoruyi, who was playing off of Phil Cofer (Cofer was in the corner) and had drifted about two feet away from the block, just stood there with his hands at his side watching Walker go in for a layup.
It was an unfortunate defensive lapse when it was a one possession ball game.
(Freeman defending the logo)
(Omoruyi just watching)
I did watch every FSU possession after a time out (ATO) and I watched each FSU possession of the final 5:20 of the game.
For the most part I liked what I saw from Rutgers' defense. Looked like they showed zone at one point but was mostly in man ATOs and in the final 5:20.
When the score was 69-66 I was stunned that Sanders and Freeman got so lazy on the P&R play when Walker, who didn't use the screen, went downhill to score with 1:22 left. Instead of moving his feet and sliding to his left to force Walker wide, Sanders chose to reach around the back of Walker in an attempt to poke the ball out. Then Freeman, who was guarding the B1G logo, didn't slide to his left and/or get wide by extending his arms out to his side to cut off Walker. To make matters even worse Eugene Omoruyi, who was playing off of Phil Cofer (Cofer was in the corner) and had drifted about two feet away from the block, just stood there with his hands at his side watching Walker go in for a layup.
It was an unfortunate defensive lapse when it was a one possession ball game.
(Freeman defending the logo)
(Omoruyi just watching)
Great stuff Russ! Thanks for responding and giving your thoughts. I am sure Pikiell is reviewing the game tape and sees this as well!
Thanks again @Russ Wood
Thanks again @Russ Wood
That looks real bad when you show the frames.
There are 3 separate things
1. Staying close in a game
2. Being in a position to win
3. Winning
FSU was #1
There are 3 separate things
1. Staying close in a game
2. Being in a position to win
3. Winning
FSU was #1
I haven't had a chance to watch the whole FSU at Rutgers game. It has just been difficult between games I've had to cover, HS games, and watching scout video so I can write game previews.
I did watch every FSU possession after a time out (ATO) and I watched each FSU possession of the final 5:20 of the game.
For the most part I liked what I saw from Rutgers' defense. Looked like they showed zone at one point but was mostly in man ATOs and in the final 5:20.
When the score was 69-66 I was stunned that Sanders and Freeman got so lazy on the P&R play when Walker, who didn't use the screen, went downhill to score with 1:22 left. Instead of moving his feet and sliding to his left to force Walker wide, Sanders chose to reach around the back of Walker in an attempt to poke the ball out. Then Freeman, who was guarding the B1G logo, didn't slide to his left and/or get wide by extending his arms out to his side to cut off Walker. To make matters even worse Eugene Omoruyi, who was playing off of Phil Cofer (Cofer was in the corner) and had drifted about two feet away from the block, just stood there with his hands at his side watching Walker go in for a layup.
It was an unfortunate defensive lapse when it was a one possession ball game.
(Freeman defending the logo)
(Omoruyi just watching)
Great analysis. I believe FSU ran this play twice and got easy baskets out of it. The excuse was Sanders was worn down and Deshawn was hurt, but Eugene has to come over and help as well. Though that would leave 0 open for an open 3...
I definitely think Freeman was far less than 80% and Sanders didn't make the right play defensively....That's part of depth and quickness that shows up when you shorten your rotation in an attempt to steal a game early in the season.
I think the next two games are almost experimental in a sense that if you keep the rotation short, you are apt to wear down later in the season if it stays that way, but Minnesota and Michigan State give Pike a chance to find out about the depth against quality ranked programs. It then gives a 3 window before Seton Hall and 2 games after that one to see whether RU can find rest for the starters while attempting to pick up wins and to get more bench minutes to balance things out for the long run.
An ideal situation in the next two games for the long run would be another double-double from Eugene and Baker and Williams being able to get back on track shooting wise.
The FSU top 8-9 players are probably capable of losing to RU on the road and beating a Top 20 team at home.....they ooze talent and ability and I think in 2 months, this performance will be one of the better ones at home that mirror games late last year like Michigan, where RU played well, but they just played a team that was clicking.
I think the next two games are almost experimental in a sense that if you keep the rotation short, you are apt to wear down later in the season if it stays that way, but Minnesota and Michigan State give Pike a chance to find out about the depth against quality ranked programs. It then gives a 3 window before Seton Hall and 2 games after that one to see whether RU can find rest for the starters while attempting to pick up wins and to get more bench minutes to balance things out for the long run.
An ideal situation in the next two games for the long run would be another double-double from Eugene and Baker and Williams being able to get back on track shooting wise.
The FSU top 8-9 players are probably capable of losing to RU on the road and beating a Top 20 team at home.....they ooze talent and ability and I think in 2 months, this performance will be one of the better ones at home that mirror games late last year like Michigan, where RU played well, but they just played a team that was clicking.
Bottom line the 2 players have to defend it. There is a major failure if Eugene has to leave his man on the weak side to stop the penetration. It is an easy pass for an uncontested 3.
By looking purelY at those 2 frames Issa should be in a better position to help and get back. I'd need to see more to be sure
Bottom line you can't have 3 guys needed to defend that play AND Corey can't play 36 minutes and defend when the game matters most.
By looking purelY at those 2 frames Issa should be in a better position to help and get back. I'd need to see more to be sure
Bottom line you can't have 3 guys needed to defend that play AND Corey can't play 36 minutes and defend when the game matters most.
I just watched every FSU possession which ended with C.J. Walker doing something. Sanders was chasing Walker around all night and had difficulty defending him. I saw the play where it looked like Freeman tweaked his left knee.
I agree that Eugene has to come over to help...especially if you know your teammate has an injured leg. Yes it would leave Cofer open for a corner three but that's a lower percentage shot than Walker getting a layup.
Give FSU credit, they spaced the floor and put the ball in their playmaker's hands knowing Sanders was tired.
They forced RU to choose who to cover. Defense has to rotate better. Imo, Eugene has to come over to help stop the layup and take your chances with a 20-foot jumper.
Look at Eugene, he's not even ready to rebound. He's a sophomore, so he'll learn.
“Instead of moving his feet and sliding to his left to force Walker wide, Sanders chose to reach around the back of Walker in an attempt to poke the ball out. “. This Corey’s favorite defensive play - let the guy go by you then try to poke it away. FB equivalent would be trying to step in front of a receiver for a pick - problem is if you don’t get it, the guy is gone. The payoff isn’t worth it - for the one steal you get every 10+ attempts, you could have just kept the guy in front of you for a much harder/or prevented shot. Corey needs to be way more selective when tries this and instead just move his feet.
You wouldn't think so on that night. Cofer shot some daggers to the heart from 3 all game.
I just looked at the box score, 4-of-5 beyond the arc. Yeesh. Were they at least over a hand?
There must have been a misunderstanding. I live in Central Florida.
