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What is the over under it gets mentioned on Selection Sunday or during the NCAA Tournament?
 
Stop being so dramatic. If and when we need to make a coaching change we will. But it won’t be now with no President and AD in place.
But will it be for another low major who did good enough at the old school? If so wash rinse repeat
 
That’s totally fair, I personally have just not seen any evidence to suggest things are going to change.

I just think a lot of people are holding onto the Geo era where Geo bailed us out A LOT with last second shots.

I don’t think we’ve ever ran good action offensively, and believe we will continue to struggle until we are able to do so. That, or get another late game mastermind

I agree we’ve never been good offensively and likely never will be under this regime. I think the path to winning under Pikiell is great defense and just enough offense. That’s what we had in 2020 and hopefully we can do it again. If not, someone else will get a shot.
 
I agree we’ve never been good offensively and likely never will be under this regime. I think the path to winning under Pikiell is great defense and just enough offense. That’s what we had in 2020 and hopefully we can do it again. If not, someone else will get a shot.
Agreed, I’ll never question the guy defensively. He has taken some absolute superstars away in games.

With that said, my concern is that formula isn’t possible anymore. Unless the B1G money/NIL bucket is enough. I’m not sure he’s going to get the chance to coach guys like Grant or Lathan for 3-4 years.

We will see though.
 
What is the over under it gets mentioned on Selection Sunday or during the NCAA Tournament?
0.5
no one outside of the greater Piscataway area cares about the ineptness of Rutgers or pike. On the recruiting trail , I imagine he will get roasted but he’s not going to go after top flight guys anymore
 
Agreed, I’ll never question the guy defensively. He has taken some absolute superstars away in games.

With that said, my concern is that formula isn’t possible anymore. Unless the B1G money/NIL bucket is enough. I’m not sure he’s going to get the chance to coach guys like Grant or Lathan for 3-4 years.

We will see though.
You nailed it.
 
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i saw it...was like a fill in the blank game..

"rutgers season has been a ____________"

wilbon said "mystery." how could they be so bad with two great players. aka i haven't really had one thought about rutgers all year and have no idea why two top players haven't gotten it done.

frank isola (sp) guest host said "failure." which it obviously is. just rattled off dylan and ace's stats after that and then started talking about other big 10 teams.

they didn't go with laughingstock, program ruined, dumpster fire, inditement on the worst coach in america like many would have like to see.
 
i saw it...was like a fill in the blank game..

"rutgers season has been a ____________"

wilbon said "mystery." how could they be so bad with two great players. aka i haven't really had one thought about rutgers all year and have no idea why two top players haven't gotten it done.

frank isola (sp) guest host said "failure." which it obviously is. just rattled off dylan and ace's stats after that and then started talking about other big 10 teams.

they didn't go with laughingstock, program ruined, dumpster fire, inditement on the worst coach in america like many would have like to see.

Thank you!

So they were having a fair and honest discussion about the season the day after it ended.

Ooo the horror! The nation won’t stop making fun of us and we are so doomed!!!

This doesn’t sound anything like the “bashing” that so many people are so fearful of.

Wilbon literally said he hasn’t thought of Rutgers all year and Isola couldn’t wait to change the conversation to other teams lmfao.

Bunch of drama queens we have on this board.
 
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i saw it...was like a fill in the blank game..

"rutgers season has been a ____________"

wilbon said "mystery." how could they be so bad with two great players. aka i haven't really had one thought about rutgers all year and have no idea why two top players haven't gotten it done.

frank isola (sp) guest host said "failure." which it obviously is. just rattled off dylan and ace's stats after that and then started talking about other big 10 teams.

they didn't go with laughingstock, program ruined, dumpster fire, inditement on the worst coach in america like many would have like to see.
No one is wanted to see that, but failure is a pretty strong word. If you guys don’t think recruits, their parents, handlers, aau coaches, competing coaches won’t remember you’re all being foolish.
 
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Well one of two narratives comes out of this:

1. Pike doesn’t know how to utilize NBA level talent
2. Rutgers doesn’t have the talent to support NBA level talent

Pick your poison, it’s bad either way.

Winning college basketball requires great talent and great coaches. Talented players don’t want to play with scrubs and they want to play for winners.

Some place somewhere there’s a 16 year old stud that was watching ESPN today and saw that on PTI.

You can send that down the line to a 14 or 15 year old as well. It’s just bad press that never should exist in the first place.
You really spin your own narrative on these boards....

How about we had 2 top level NBA talents as FRESHMAN when every announcer around the league has stated multiple times that it is hard to win as a freshman in a man's league. These are 18yo kids(as talented as they are) playing against 22-24yo men. It is very clear how coaches have prioritized older more seasoned players for winning success in this new generation.
This is not to say our coaching was putrid at times this year and deserve their own conversation 10x over. Ace and Dylan carried this team on offense and clearly they maintained or even upped their status in the NBA draft, but they have a TON to learn in playing defense.

It wouldn't surprise me that kids actually see what Ace/Dylan were able to do on this team and have ability to have a green light on offense to showcase their skills wanting to come here.
 
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Thank you!

So they were having a fair and honest discussion about the season the day after it ended.

Ooo the horror! The nation won’t stop making fun of us and we are so doomed!!!

This doesn’t sound anything like the “bashing” that so many people are so fearful of.

Wilbon literally said he hasn’t thought of Rutgers all year and Isola couldn’t wait to change the conversation to other teams lmfao.

Bunch of drama queens we have on this board.
I could care less what the nation thinks, just recruits and handlers. 3.4.5 stars all want to play in the ncaas. You’re kidding yourself if you think this won’t be remembered. And for those counting on the nba draft for publicity, talk about Rutgers not even getting noticed. Sad that you think Wilbon not thinking of us is a good thing. We’re already irrelevant.
 
No one is wanted to see that, but failure is a pretty strong word. If you guys don’t think recruits, their parents, handlers, aau coaches, competing coaches won’t remember you’re all being foolish.

Again.. remember what? Did Rutgers have a blue blood reputation that is now lost?
 
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i saw it...was like a fill in the blank game..

"rutgers season has been a ____________"

wilbon said "mystery." how could they be so bad with two great players. aka i haven't really had one thought about rutgers all year and have no idea why two top players haven't gotten it done.

frank isola (sp) guest host said "failure." which it obviously is. just rattled off dylan and ace's stats after that and then started talking about other big 10 teams.

they didn't go with laughingstock, program ruined, dumpster fire, inditement on the worst coach in america like many would have like to see.
they just said what we all feel and is the truth.
With two of the top college players it's a mystery how this season was such a failure

Rutgers isn't on anyone's great programs list , it's been on the fair to middling list of also rans for years.
No one is laughing at the program because it hasn't earned the type of respect and expectations the better programs have and get knocked for having a season like this one Rutgers just went through.
What makes it worse, college basketball fans aren't laughing at Rutgers because they don't care enough about it to laugh at its failures.
 
Remember that with two lottery picks we still couldn’t make the dance. 3,4 stars want to go to the dance too

Well we made the tournament effectively three times with a bunch of mainly 3* guys and missed with two 5* guys.. what conclusion should they draw exactly?
 
Well we made the tournament effectively three times with a bunch of mainly 3* guys and missed with two 5* guys.. what conclusion should they draw exactly?
That unless specifically Geo RHJ and Caleb come back we ain’t dancing for 30 years
 
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Thank you!

So they were having a fair and honest discussion about the season the day after it ended.

Ooo the horror! The nation won’t stop making fun of us and we are so doomed!!!

This doesn’t sound anything like the “bashing” that so many people are so fearful of.

Wilbon literally said he hasn’t thought of Rutgers all year and Isola couldn’t wait to change the conversation to other teams lmfao.

Bunch of drama queens we have on this board.
Your denial of this being a real black eye for the program is astounding.

This would be like schiano having jayden daniels, micah parsons, sauce gardner, garrett wilson, paris johnson, jalen carter, joe alt and aiden hutchinson and going 5-7.
 
Why should we conclude they were the good luck and the recent teams were the normal luck. Why not the other way around?
Because in ten years we solved the chicken and the egg. Pike caught lightning in a bottle with those three or so guys. In the NIL he’s not getting 3+ under recruited guys to overachieve for 3,4 or even a Covid year.
 
Because in ten years we solved the chicken and the egg. Pike caught lightning in a bottle with those three or so guys. In the NIL he’s not getting 3+ under recruited guys to overachieve for 3,4 or even a Covid year.

Why not?
 
I could care less what the nation thinks, just recruits and handlers. 3.4.5 stars all want to play in the ncaas. You’re kidding yourself if you think this won’t be remembered. And for those counting on the nba draft for publicity, talk about Rutgers not even getting noticed. Sad that you think Wilbon not thinking of us is a good thing. We’re already irrelevant.

Hmmm seemed like you cared what the nation thinks in this thread…


And yes thanks for making one of my points - Rutgers basketball has essentially been irrelevant for decades and we continue to be irrelevant. This season was a massive failure (I’m not arguing that!!!)…..and a massive blown opportunity to actually become relevant (I’m not arguing that!!!)…..but all the people acting like we’re doomed or the whole nation is laughing at us and will do so for years….you need sack the hell up.
 
Your denial of this being a real black eye for the program is astounding.

This would be like schiano having jayden daniels, micah parsons, sauce gardner, garrett wilson, paris johnson, jalen carter, joe alt and aiden hutchinson and going 5-7.

You love comparing apples to oranges.

And our football program is probably more of a national embarrassment and less respected as of today than our basketball program.

Key words “as of today”…as I’m aware this can easily change in the next 2-3 years.

That’s the sad truth.
 
Hmmm seemed like you cared what the nation thinks in this thread…


And yes thanks for making one of my points - Rutgers basketball has essentially been irrelevant for decades and we continue to be irrelevant. This season was a massive failure (I’m not arguing that!!!)…..and a massive blown opportunity to actually become relevant (I’m not arguing that!!!)…..but all the people acting like we’re doomed or the whole nation is laughing at us and will do so for years….you need sack the hell up.
We were relevant just a few years ago. And now we’re not again. It’s frustrating. Maybe you like being irrelevant?

And maybe you didn’t read the thread, or comprehension is not a skill you have, or you just like cherry picking. Yes, I care what all the recruits, their families, their handlers and their aau coaches IN THE NATION think of us. And I think they’re laughing and will when we come knocking
 
We were relevant just a few years ago. And now we’re not again. It’s frustrating. Maybe you like being irrelevant?

And maybe you didn’t read the thread, or comprehension is not a skill you have, or you just like cherry picking. Yes, I care what all the recruits, their families, their handlers and their aau coaches IN THE NATION think of us. And I think they’re laughing and will when we come knocking

You’re just making $hit up but I have comprehension issues?

Yea I love being irrelevant! I’ve had season tickets for 8 years and drive 60 miles each way to watch irrelevant basketball - it’s what I love!

No $hit it’s frustrating. We sucked this year and blew a great opportunity. You’re acting like I’m denying any of this.

You’re failing to comprehend my overall point which is that nobody outside of the Rutgers fanbase generally gives a $hit. This point is for all of the people who keep acting like we are some national embarrassment or laughing stock across the country. And yes - it appeared you shared that sentiment by your contributions in the “X thread” where OP was digging up the most random tweets from guys named Otto and whining like a baby.

Reality is that we’re gonna get the same 3/4 star recruits going forward that we’ve been getting. The chances of us landing another 5 star recruit anytime soon were always pretty slim whether we made the tournament or not…hate to break that to you.
 
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We were relevant just a few years ago. And now we’re not again. It’s frustrating. Maybe you like being irrelevant?

And maybe you didn’t read the thread, or comprehension is not a skill you have, or you just like cherry picking. Yes, I care what all the recruits, their families, their handlers and their aau coaches IN THE NATION think of us. And I think they’re laughing and will when we come knocking
There's a difference between being mad/disappointed about the season and projecting that forward to all the future seasons as well.

The season sucked. No one denies that. It's the doomcasting about how it will kill us forever that is annoying and, imo, wrong.
 
Your denial of this being a real black eye for the program is astounding.

This would be like schiano having jayden daniels, micah parsons, sauce gardner, garrett wilson, paris johnson, jalen carter, joe alt and aiden hutchinson and going 5-7.
Our football team is already irrelevant to the nation. Let me know when RU football wins a conference title or even goes to more than the toilet bowl.
Schiano had massive NFL talent on his teams couldn’t do either of the above.
 
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You’re just making $hit up but I have comprehension issues?

Yea I love being irrelevant! I’ve had season tickets for 8 years and drive 60 miles each way to watch irrelevant basketball - it’s what I love!

No $hit it’s frustrating. We sucked this year and blew a great opportunity. You’re acting like I’m denying any of this.

You’re failing to comprehend my overall point which is that nobody outside of the Rutgers fanbase generally gives a $hit. This point is for all of the people who keep acting like we are some national embarrassment or laughing stock across the country. And yes - it appeared you shared that sentiment by your contributions in the “X thread” where OP was digging up the most random tweets from guys named Otto and whining like a baby.

Reality is that we’re gonna get the same 3/4 star recruits going forward that we’ve been getting. The chances of us landing another 5 star recruit anytime soon were always pretty slim whether we made the tournament or not…hate to break that to you.
I think the better recruits we will target will remember this season.
 
There's a difference between being mad/disappointed about the season and projecting that forward to all the future seasons as well.

The season sucked. No one denies that. It's the doomcasting about how it will kill us forever that is annoying and, imo, wrong.
It’s not this season that makes me future cast doom it’s the last three season and getting worse and worse and worse.
 
Our football team is already irrelevant to the nation. Let me know when RU football wins a conference title or even goes to more than the toilet bowl.
Schiano had massive NFL talent on his teams couldn’t do either of the above.
What are you saying?? It's a well known FACT that Schiano developes defensive players and now his assistants like FLAHERTY are doing the same--- massive NFL talent ?? RU made then able to get a chance at the NFL , we didn't buy or recruit them.
 
There's a difference between being mad/disappointed about the season and projecting that forward to all the future seasons as well.

The season sucked. No one denies that. It's the doomcasting about how it will kill us forever that is annoying and, imo, wrong.
It may not kill us forever, but it is doubtful that Pikiell will be able to live this down any time soon.
 
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missed it but I thought posters lectured us and said no one noticed
Yea I was told that no one outside of nj.com would bring up the horrible results and that it wouldn’t be used to negatively recruit. Just like media didn’t report on Rice debacle and Jordan’s results. 2 top 5 picks on the roster gets a pass.
 
What is the over under it gets mentioned on Selection Sunday or during the NCAA Tournament?
0 - We weren't a bubble team, or made a run to get close. Focus is on teams making tournament or just missing out, not teams not living up to expectations.
 
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As we say in media - any press is good press!

Yes. The season sucked and was an embarrassment,

The fact espn is talking about it shows we’re relevant.
 
i saw it...was like a fill in the blank game..

"rutgers season has been a ____________"

wilbon said "mystery." how could they be so bad with two great players. aka i haven't really had one thought about rutgers all year and have no idea why two top players haven't gotten it done.

frank isola (sp) guest host said "failure." which it obviously is. just rattled off dylan and ace's stats after that and then started talking about other big 10 teams.

they didn't go with laughingstock, program ruined, dumpster fire, inditement on the worst coach in america like many would have like to see.

It was totally fair. Isola noted that we played well at time but the supporting cast just wasn’t good enough. It really wasn’t the tar and feathering everyone wanted.
 
#2 exists because of Pike, you realize that right?

This entire fanbase was screaming all offseason to add a 5. We had Ewin verbally commit to Rutgers and he asked for a few more bucks, Pike told him no I’m not playing that game.

That’s not some random rumor from Otto on twitter. That’s something that came from the mods here.

Ewin had double digit points and 7.5 boards per game at FSU by the way.

Additionally, the game has changed. Holding on to players for multiple years and developing a core that leads to strong Pike team defense is no longer a thing.

You guys try to create this narrative that we had a misfit of kids that just landed in RU’s lap. No, these are players Pike hand picked.

I mean honestly, not to be a dick to Martini specifically, but we watched him play all year. It was clear as day this level wasn’t for him. I’ll give Pike a pass for missing that during recruiting, but you had a full year of him playing in the B1G. In what universe is he starting in the Big Ten Tournament over Lathan? It’s stuff like that where I shake my head and can see our HC spot doesn’t know what’s going on.

Continue to watch this play out. No one is coming to save us, we get to ride this one out thanks to that slime bucket Hobbs.
Martini more legit at this level than JaMiss, Derknado, Dortch, Ogbole and Hayes.
 
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