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Peppers ...

1st off, there were not "30K" on the field, lol, and secondly there were plenty of other Michigan players on the field. Peppers was the ONLY Michigan player partaking in JH's police escort.
From what I saw, a fan was jawing at Peppers and Peppers (acceptably, IMO) pushed the fan away. A ref saw it and escorted Peppers to Hardoosh's police escort. tOSU fans were definitely a risk to UM's players, let's be real here. Same thing if the game was in the Big House and UM won.
 
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From what I saw, a fan was jawing at Peppers and Peppers (acceptably, IMO) pushed the fan away. A ref saw it and escorted Peppers to Hardoosh's police escort. tOSU fans were definitely a risk to UM's players, let's be real here. Same thing if the game was in the Big House and UM won.
Agreed see my earlier responses.
 
Hope this costs him a few million $$ with a lower draft pick.
And I hope the guy gets a good lawyer that delays the trial until after he gets his contract.
 
Agreed see my earlier responses.
From what I saw, a fan was jawing at Peppers and Peppers (acceptably, IMO) pushed the fan away. A ref saw it and escorted Peppers to Hardoosh's police escort. tOSU fans were definitely a risk to UM's players, let's be real here. Same thing if the game was in the Big House and UM won.
Pushing & shoving before the Clemson USCe game. Hell Fournette pushed a COACH last weekend.
 
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What someone does isn't excused because others have done similar things.
If it's wrong, it's wrong no matter who or how may others are doing the same.
Why the heck do people feel the need to excuse someone for a wrong action because
others have acted the same way.
As for Peppers pushing that OSU fan away, guess the type move he made is considered a push by some who are looking for ways to excuse his actions .
I consider Pepper's move more of a short quick punch like than a push. and don't think Pepper's actions deserves to be excused.
But the NFL will and it won't hurt his draft stock and don't expect a bowl game ban
from the NCAA, B1G or Michigan.
Miss playing the first series at most , saying not starting is punishment enough.
 
Did you see that return at the end of the 2nd half by the Michigan CB? Peppers kept following him expecting a pitch or something rather than getting up there and throwing a block.
 
Peppers is about peppers. Now that he isn't going to NY and no chance of playoff he'd probably rather not play. Start prepping for the draft.
 
Peppers is about peppers. Now that he isn't going to NY and no chance of playoff he'd probably rather not play. Start prepping for the draft.
Completely agree he is. VK I've met you & have gotten tickets from you. Grew up in North Jersey. The kid is a gifted athlete & complete tool.
However people here want to give Ray Ray a pass for knocking out a GIRL. Peppers reacted like a sore loser & jacked a kid that pushed him/was pushed into him.
I don't watch much pro football but I've seen Odell carry on with this bullshite. It's what they see on TV and try to emulate.
 
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Completely agree he is. VK I've met you & have gotten tickets from you. Grew up in North Jersey. The kid is a gifted athlete & complete tool.
However people here want to give Ray Ray a pass for knocking out a GIRL. Peppers reacted like a sore loser & jacked a kid that pushed him/was pushed into him.
I don't watch much pro football but I've seen Odell carry on with this bullshite. It's what they see on TV and try to emulate.
Yup, remember who you are
Peppers has been an ass since 8th grade. I've heard some ridiculous stories and the limited one on one contact I've had with him he was less than an impressive young man.
 
Completely agree he is. VK I've met you & have gotten tickets from you. Grew up in North Jersey. The kid is a gifted athlete & complete tool.
However people here want to give Ray Ray a pass for knocking out a GIRL. Peppers reacted like a sore loser & jacked a kid that pushed him/was pushed into him.
I don't watch much pro football but I've seen Odell carry on with this bullshite. It's what they see on TV and try to emulate.

Few people want to give him a pass. But Ray was allegedly drunk and he was in a fight with his fiance--does not make it right what he did. Peppers was sober and just being a douche and a sore loser when he assaulted a total stranger for no reason other than he is a douche and a sore loser.
 
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Few people want to give him a pass. But Ray was allegedly drunk and he was in a fight with his fiance--does not make it right what he did. Peppers was sober and just being a douche and a sore loser when he assaulted a total stranger for no reason other than he is a douche and a sore loser.
I had a heated debate on here years ago regarding RR. Yes people on this very board say "he should play in the NFL", "if his wife forgives him".....
And the fact that he's drunk & can knock out a girl?

Peppers IS a douche.
Watch the replay he didn't randomly launch a haymaker (drunk or not), he was pushed in a crowd on the field. HE WAS PROBABLY THINKING HE WAS GETTING PAYBACK FROM A BUCKEYE.
 
I had a heated debate on here years ago regarding RR. Yes people on this very board say "he should play in the NFL", "if his wife forgives him".....
And the fact that he's drunk & can knock out a girl?

Peppers IS a douche.
Watch the replay he didn't randomly launch a haymaker (drunk or not), he was pushed in a crowd on the field. HE WAS PROBABLY THINKING HE WAS GETTING PAYBACK FROM A BUCKEYE.

Let me be clear. I was not excusing Ray for being drunk. I was just saying there is a huge difference in his situation (drunk, fighting with his fiance --STILL VERY WRONG), and Peppers--sober, lost a game and is just angry, no provocation. Both are wrong, but Peppers is bigger douche for what he did.

Yes, he randomly punched a fan who bumped into him innocently. He is a huge douche, and if I was an NFL owner, I would not have him on my team.
 
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I had a heated debate on here years ago regarding RR. Yes people on this very board say "he should play in the NFL", "if his wife forgives him".....
And the fact that he's drunk & can knock out a girl?

Peppers IS a douche.
Watch the replay he didn't randomly launch a haymaker (drunk or not), he was pushed in a crowd on the field. HE WAS PROBABLY THINKING HE WAS GETTING PAYBACK FROM A BUCKEYE.
I hope he didn't give the guy whatever STD he's been passing to the co-eds at Michigan!
 
Let me be clear. I was not excusing Ray for being drunk. I was just saying there is a huge difference in his situation (drunk, fighting with his fiance --STILL VERY WRONG), and Peppers--sober, lost a game and is just angry, no provocation. Both are wrong, but Peppers is bigger douche for what he did.

Yes, he randomly punched a fan who bumped into him innocently. He is a huge douche, and if I was an NFL owner, I would not have him on my team.
Now we can agree on something.
However we both know the owners (typically & yes made the example out of RR) don't care (see Ray Lewis) as long as you can produce.
His stock may have dropped in the draft, maybe not. That's a reflection of the culture in the NFL.
 
Now we can agree on something.
However we both know the owners (typically & yes made the example out of RR) don't care (see Ray Lewis) as long as you can produce.
His stock may have dropped in the draft, maybe not. That's a reflection of the culture in the NFL.
We do agree on that, but one other thing--as long as the indiscretion is not on video, anything goes (Ray Lewis). Peppers' pop of the fan was minor but shows he has character issues.
Another one who I think got off too light was Corey Clement at Wisconsin-did basically the same thing Ruhann Peele did, except he started the fight, popped someone, lied to the police, and later had to recant his story because it was on video. The difference? He plays at Wisconsin and he was a lousy punch--he got a one game suspension.
 
We do agree on that, but one other thing--as long as the indiscretion is not on video, anything goes (Ray Lewis). Peppers' pop of the fan was minor but shows he has character issues.
Another one who I think got off too light was Corey Clement at Wisconsin-did basically the same thing Ruhann Peele did, except he started the fight, popped someone, lied to the police, and later had to recant his story because it was on video. The difference? He plays at Wisconsin and he was a lousy punch--he got a one game suspension.
Agreed again
 
Not saying I approve of it. He did react like a dou*he nonetheless.
I'm just tired of everyone here saying they want to win at all costs but when athletes are "fired up", marginal students etc they say they don't want them. I'm sure EVERY top flight program has some headcase kids on their teams. But when a kid that turned us down does something off base he's a POS. But when one of our own (ex) does it, it's forgiven. And yes I'm talking about RR. What he did was 1000 times worse & wasn't after a HUGE loss.

Let the fighting begin
There's a reason why they have character witnesses in a court of law. Character is not established by a one time event but by a pattern of behavior over time. Peppers' pattern of behavior puts him in the douche category. Ray Rice's pattern of behavior puts him in the good guy who made a really, Really BIG mistake category.
 
Completely agree he is. VK I've met you & have gotten tickets from you. Grew up in North Jersey. The kid is a gifted athlete & complete tool.
However people here want to give Ray Ray a pass for knocking out a GIRL. Peppers reacted like a sore loser & jacked a kid that pushed him/was pushed into him.
I don't watch much pro football but I've seen Odell carry on with this bullshite. It's what they see on TV and try to emulate.
RR got a pass?

He, and his wife, who he punched.. have lost significant income and standing from what appears very much to be a one-time drunken event.

Up until that point, RR had been a real role model.. though one clearly with a demon where alcohol consumption was involved. RR embraced his hometown community and his adopted town community in very real ways.

If anyone should have gotten a pass, it was RR.. and he did not get one. Probably because his crime was caught on video.

And AreYou Nuts.. thx for that Lamar Jackson link.. HAHA.. Heisman poser lost the game.. to hated rival Kentucky! In FOOTBALL!
 
Totally irresponsible - Peppers still in full uniform - with his helmet on - gets bumped / jostled by OSU spectator headed in the opposite direction - and responds with a retaliatory punch?
Peppers should become acquainted with a new concept - accountability !
 
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The OSU fan backed into him. He pushed him away and then took a swing at him when the fan's hands were up in the air. Real jerk move, but he had to be super upset with the loss.

Love that Michigan loss. Since he didn't really hit the fan, I thinking you let it go. No question it will cost him a few spots in the draft.

As to Ray Rice, I think most fans here are in agreement that it was a terrible thing that he did. I think Rice would agree with that. The point being made here by many is that it was a one-off event, he apologized multiple times for it, and he had been a real role model, not a troublemaker at all. Folks don't condone what he did, but believe he deserves a second chance. As do I. I'm guessing that ship has sailed, though. Too bad. The NFL is filled with folks way worse than Rice.

EDIT: You want to suspend somebody, suspend #99 for Notre Dame. Two amazingly classless moves.
 
RR got a pass?

He, and his wife, who he punched.. have lost significant income and standing from what appears very much to be a one-time drunken event.

Up until that point, RR had been a real role model.. though one clearly with a demon where alcohol consumption was involved. RR embraced his hometown community and his adopted town community in very real ways.

If anyone should have gotten a pass, it was RR.. and he did not get one. Probably because his crime was caught on video.

And AreYou Nuts.. thx for that Lamar Jackson link.. HAHA.. Heisman poser lost the game.. to hated rival Kentucky! In FOOTBALL!
I wrote WANT TO GIVE HIM A PASS. He did lose money, yup. Lots of people mess up in similar ways & never had to opportunity he had. Hopefully he invested well & can continue to lecture on abuse both alcohol & physical. Maybe he can use his connections he made in the NFL to turn a colossal mistake into something positive.
However I am not in the camp of embracing him for his accomplishments on the field while here at RU. Maybe if he got his degree & tried to do right at RU, but he hasn't done that.

We will disagree on this and that's fine. I'm here for discussion not arguing. I'm still going to wake up an RU grad/fan.
 
Peppers is a finely tuned D1 athlete with a helmet and pads on. What is some (likely) drunken college aged kid going to do to him? He under NO circumstances should lay his hands on a fan. Stop excusing this atrocious behavior please.
 
Peppers is a finely tuned D1 athlete with a helmet and pads on. What is some (likely) drunken college aged kid going to do to him? He under NO circumstances should lay his hands on a fan. Stop excusing this atrocious behavior please.
Not excusing it pointing out hypocrisy.
I've said, kid is a douche.
 
Peppers is just spoiled because everybody hypes him. He's a good player but you would think he was the second coming of Herschel and he's not. I cant even find him leading any categories. Returns, tackles, INTs, passes defended etc - nothing
 
Guy would be best player on RU in past decade, it's one thing to hate on someone, another thing to be a dumbass

Only dumbass is the athlete I saw put his hands on a fan. This is down there with the Rich Scanlon incident. Totally dispicible. He was being a sore loser. End of story.
 
That's a punch? Looks like a push
Maybe if he hit that hard on the field they would have won game. Overhyped asshole

Check that he does hit that hard on the field that's why the lost
 
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Didn't know who had won as of 10PM. Turned on the TV to the Florida-Florida St game hoping to hear Peppers and Harbaugh lost (though forgot PSU goes to B1G Championship game)..Immediately see Peppers stomping on the "O" and having a confrontation with a fan.

Glad the 2 douchbags lost.Peppers reminds me of that rap group N*A ( a few hours ago with $3.25 per day food benefit left for the month I gave a homeless guy from the same race some food-because he asked nicely).

Hope Michigan gets knocked down to the Texas bowl.
 
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