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Per ESPN Washington's Kalen DeBoer in Contract Talks with Bama

Hard to find better than this on paper but on paper and in practice don't always coincide. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.



 
I think it'll be Grubb or Klieman (assuming any buyout is manageable), in house option or the option where the AD has a possible connection to Klieman from Northern Iowa. I like Leipold/Campbell too but I think those 2 might have inside track with the new AD.
 
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Like I mentioned above, UW offered a raise up to 9.5M. Alabama probably offered a little more along with maybe more years. Of course also the more realistic chance at NCs as opposed to a rebuild year at UW. The fans are going to expect them. The last time they went 9-3 was 2010 lol.

 
DeBoer is obviously getting paid well for this move. But the question is, how long does he stay there? Does he even make it 5 years?? Even in an ideal situation, it would seem unlikely that he would ever hit 10 years there, given the expectations with that school.
 
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Money wise- even if both teams wear 9.5 mil- in Bama9.5 equals about 15 in Wash.
 
I think he's being pennywise and pound foolish. It's never easy to follow a legend and one that is arguably, the most successful college football coach ever. In addition, Udub is far more forgiving and understanding of 'stumbling' than Bama or the fans there will ever be. Udub could literally own Cali recruiting
 
I think he's being pennywise and pound foolish. It's never easy to follow a legend and one that is arguably, the most successful college football coach ever. In addition, Udub is far more forgiving and understanding of 'stumbling' than Bama or the fans there will ever be. Udub could literally own Cali recruiting
You should never be afraid of your next move if you have confidence in yourself.
 
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You should never be afraid of your next move if you have confidence in yourself.
not what I'm saying.

It's always hard to follow a legend and he'll be gone in a few years. Nothing short of 3 NCs out of 4/5yrs will suffice there. He could stay at Udub, rebuild and rip through the BIG and have a long sucessful career where every move isn't questioned 6 ways to Sunday
 
not what I'm saying.

It's always hard to follow a legend and he'll be gone in a few years. Nothing short of 3 NCs out of 4/5yrs will suffice there. He could stay at Udub, rebuild and rip through the BIG and have a long sucessful career where every move isn't questioned 6 ways to Sunday
Always tough to follow a legend, but most great coaches don't shy away from a challenge at a place that they feel they can win big at.
DeBoers might have weighed the chances to keep Washington a top program after moving into B1G competition verses keeping Alabama a top program under him
Alabama's name recognition brings in recruits, their boosters are generous and comparing the support both programs could give him to keep them successful might have been the deciding factor in choosing to go to Bama over staying at Washington
 
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Always tough to follow a legend, but most great coaches don't shy away from a challenge at a place that they feel they can win big at.
DeBoers might have weighed the chances to keep Washington a top program after moving into B1G competition verses keeping Alabama a top program under him
Alabama's name recognition brings in recruits, their boosters are generous and comparing the support both programs could give him to keep them successful might have been the deciding factor in choosing to go to Bama over staying at Washington
As stated- Bama is always going to get the 4-5 star national recruits and this has already shown he can do it. I can’t see how there would really be any drop off. Sagan’s genius was more about getting the best players in the land more than on field.
 
I'm willing to bet both of you this turns out poorly. This isn't about ego, machismo, or proving anything; it's about the best move for him at this time.
 
As stated- Bama is always going to get the 4-5 star national recruits and this has already shown he can do it. I can’t see how there would really be any drop off. Sagan’s genius was more about getting the best players in the land more than on field.
The difference between Alabama and the best of the SEC was his coaching. The difference in talent between Alabama, LSU, Florida, and Georgia in most years was negligable, and Saban won most of those games.
 
I'm willing to bet both of you this turns out poorly. This isn't about ego, machismo, or proving anything; it's about the best move for him at this time.
Looking at the history of replacing legends, history seems to be on your side.
But Les Miles did a great job at LSU when he took over after Saban left there .
( until he was found using an ineligible player and wins vacated for the years involved)

When Tom Osborne took over for Nebraska's legendary Bob Devaney he not only
did a bang up job, but made the Cornhuskers even better

But those two seem to be exceptions to the don't replace a legend and expect to be praised for your work and even Miles because of how he ended his Bengal Tiger career might be considered failing to keep the winning standard of the coach he replaced
Though Saban's era at LSU wasn't the stuff legends are made of, Nick was considered a hard act to follow when he left for the pros
 
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Other issue is unless you’re at a blueboood or notch below (newblood), how do you say no to this job?

Wash a top 25 job, but it’s not usc
 
Looking at the history of replacing legends, history seems to be on your side.
But Les Miles did a great job at LSU when he took over after Saban left there .
( until he was found using an ineligible player and wins vacated for the years involved)

When Tom Osborne took over for Nebraska's legendary Bob Devaney he not only
did a bang up job, but made the Cornhuskers even better

But those two seem to be exceptions to the don't replace a legend and expect to be praised for your work and even Miles because of how he ended his Bengal Tiger career might be considered failing to keep the winning standard of the coach he replaced
Though Saban's era at LSU wasn't the stuff legends are made of, Nick was considered a hard act to follow when he left for the pros
true, all of it and each case is unique. I just think this gig is going to be different and Ga isn't any weaker
 
I'm willing to bet both of you this turns out poorly. This isn't about ego, machismo, or proving anything; it's about the best move for him at this time.

You're probably right with this prediction. However even if he falls short at Bama....he gets the bag and he will still likely have other HC options afterwards.
 
You're probably right with this prediction. However even if he falls short at Bama....he gets the bag and he will still likely have other HC options afterwards.
That's true but the quality and kind of options might not be so great and he'd have to build himself back up. Nothing wrong with that though.

Tom Herman from Texas, sat out a year and now is at FAU. Frank Solich stayed at Ohio. Bryan Harsin was sabotaged by Auburn boosters and still no HC spot for this offseason. Lane and Sark from USC had to go back down to coordinator positions and/or smaller school jobs and then come back up.
 
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From reading rumors, sounds like the candidates are Klieman, Leipold, and Campbell. I think any of the 3 are solid options.
Campbell might feel it time to get out of Dodge because his last 3 years at Iowa State weren't the stuff coaching dreams are made of.
I feel though a solid choice the Huskie fanbase and boosters wouldn't be thrilled if he took over
Leipold might be the one most ready to move in to another place while I feel Klieman knows he's at a program that could be a long term home for him like Bill Snyder had there.
 
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Campbell might feel it time to get out of Dodge because his last 3 years at Iowa State weren't the stuff coaching dreams are made of.
I feel though a solid choice the Huskie fanbase and boosters wouldn't be thrilled if he took over
Leipold might be the one most ready to move in to another place while I feel Klieman knows he's at a program that could be a long term home for him like Bill Snyder had there.
I agree with you from Matt's perspective, but seems like a risky hire for UW? Would think LL should be the front runner, but just guessing. Not sure I agree LL is the most ready to move to another place, but if it's between him and Klieman, sure.

Seems Leipold took Kansas on a similar trajectory as Klieman, but Leipold had a MUCH bigger rebuild.



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Had not realized that Klieman has been at K State since 2019. Just for some perspective, on program building, he was 69-6/36/4 at North Dakota State, but his first 2 years were not so hot, but things turned around in year 3, and took off in year 4.

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Campbell might feel it time to get out of Dodge because his last 3 years at Iowa State weren't the stuff coaching dreams are made of.
I feel though a solid choice the Huskie fanbase and boosters wouldn't be thrilled if he took over
Leipold might be the one most ready to move in to another place while I feel Klieman knows he's at a program that could be a long term home for him like Bill Snyder had there.
I think Matt Campbell did an excellent job this year. Don't forget they lost a good number of players, including their starting qb and rb, right before the season because of those gambling issues. They still finished with 7 wins and 6-3 in the conference. He's had 2 losing seasons in conference out of 8.

He was very good at Toledo and very steady and solid at ISU. See how steady and solid ISU was before him. There is a certain potential to every job and I think he's don't just about what you can at ISU. Not to say Campbell is Saban (duh lol) but look at Saban's record at MSU before he left. A bunch of 6-7 win seasons before a 9 win one when he left. He did things at MSU that hadn't been done before and so had Campbell at ISU.

I like Leipold the best out of the bunch because I think UW will be in rebuild year and he seems to be good at that. I think Campbell would be a steady coach though who could make them a 7-9 win team most years with occasional bursts higher.

EDIT: I should add if it is Leipold, I wonder if Kansas will tap Andy Kotelnicki to be HC. He just left Kansas to take the PSU OC job.
 
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Washington needs to make the right choice quick. So far they're losing their OC, 8 starters on offense, along with their portal QB Rogers. On D at least 4 of their front 7. They've also lost their top '24 commit along with 2 portal commits not counting Rogers.

One heck of a bad week.
 
Washington needs to make the right choice quick. So far they're losing their OC, 8 starters on offense, along with their portal QB Rogers. On D at least 4 of their front 7. They've also lost their top '24 commit along with 2 portal commits not counting Rogers.

One heck of a bad week.
Perhaps they will need a rebuild coach like Lance Leipold.

Maybe we can pencil them is as a win next year?
 
Washington needs to make the right choice quick. So far they're losing their OC, 8 starters on offense, along with their portal QB Rogers. On D at least 4 of their front 7. They've also lost their top '24 commit along with 2 portal commits not counting Rogers.

One heck of a bad week.
As for losing staff:
I feel that in most cases when a new HC arrives the old staff is sent packing
so the new guy has people around him he has had a relationship with before and trusts the way they work.
As for the players, need a quick hire so the players that are entering the portal might like the hire and decide to stay making a possible rebuild into a maintain what is there as much as possible and add new parts that should help keep the program a good one.

The Huskies might not be desperate for a QB if Austin Mack ( 4* class of 2023) is still there.
 
Don’t care about Fran , Fisch or anyone else . Best news if true that Reggie Sutton will return for 2024. Now that is positive Rutgers news.
 
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