Perspective on posting here and social media

[BKIn118]

Call me a "boomer" or "old timer" or whatever, but any so called adult that would go after a college kid for any reason needs to reassess why they are on this earth.

Grown ups gamble and understand the risk of loss. If they don't, they should stop blaming their shortcomings as humans on the actions (or inactions) of kids.

Same goes for those who throw anonymous bombs here or on social media at those same kids. Maturity is a lost art, and actions come with an inherent burden of responsibility. We seem to have forgotten that in so much these days.

 

[toby83]

Call me a "boomer" or "old timer" or whatever, but any so called adult that would go after a college kid for any reason needs to reassess why they are on this earth.

Grown ups gamble and understand the risk of loss. If they don't, they should stop blaming their shortcomings as humans on the actions (or inactions) of kids.

Same goes for those who throw anonymous bombs here or on social media at those same kids. Maturity is a lost art, and actions come with an inherent burden of responsibility. We seem to have forgotten that in so much these days.

kids that make $400k per year? they are getting paid to play, no?

and for the record, calling a player out on twitter with a @ mention is pretty terrible. but tweeting "Drew Timme couldn't guard my 70 year old mother" is pretty harmless, and is not what i would call "going after a kid on social media".

 

[rubjk]

kids that make $400k per year? they are getting paid to play, no?

and for the record, calling a player out on twitter with a @ mention is pretty terrible. but tweeting "Drew Timme couldn't guard my 70 year old mother" is pretty harmless, and is not what i would call "going after a kid on social media".

So if it’s money, I’m sure there’s people here making $400k or more a year. Should they be publicly ridiculed for an off day? I agree some light hearted ridicule is fine.

I also think a lot is much more, loosing bettors threatening players, etc.

 

[IL Lusciato]

It's part of life. Hope they can learn to tune it out.

 

[RUInsanity]

It's part of life. Hope they can learn to tune it out.

I always wonder when constant mass critique and ridicule of those who entertain us (either as professionals or amateurs) became "part of life". I'm guessing that most here would wilt under the scrutiny of thousands or more constantly and publicly assessing, critiquing and denigrating every aspect of our job performance. Yet we ask that 18-23 year olds simply "tune it out" when they have been conditioned for much of their lives to interact with each other on social media.

 

[bethlehemfan]

I always wonder when constant mass critique and ridicule of those who entertain us (either as professionals or amateurs) became "part of life". I'm guessing that most here would wilt under the scrutiny of thousands or more constantly and publicly assessing, critiquing and denigrating every aspect of our job performance. Yet we ask that 18-23 year olds simply "tune it out" when they have been conditioned for much of their lives to interact with each other on social media.

Agree with this. People latch onto any excuse for being assholes and I don’t mean that wrt to lusci just in general.

 

[Goku]

Pike should get all of his kids David goggins’s book.

 

[IL Lusciato]

I always wonder when constant mass critique and ridicule of those who entertain us (either as professionals or amateurs) became "part of life". I'm guessing that most here would wilt under the scrutiny of thousands or more constantly and publicly assessing, critiquing and denigrating every aspect of our job performance. Yet we ask that 18-23 year olds simply "tune it out" when they have been conditioned for much of their lives to interact with each other on social media.

Probably in like 1000 BC when people started entertaining as a job.

 

[IL Lusciato]

I always wonder when constant mass critique and ridicule of those who entertain us (either as professionals or amateurs) became "part of life". I'm guessing that most here would wilt under the scrutiny of thousands or more constantly and publicly assessing, critiquing and denigrating every aspect of our job performance. Yet we ask that 18-23 year olds simply "tune it out" when they have been conditioned for much of their lives to interact with each other on social media.

These young men sign up to play sports in front of thousands of crazy fans. That's part of the reason they even play, or play for large programs. If they love the cheers, they've sometimes gotta deal with jeers or criticism. I do not understand the melodramatic grandstanding. Tweeting at a kid personally, or yelling at him if you see him walking to class is unacceptable...but major college sports are subject to the general sports talk arena. It's not that unprecedented or crazy or terrible.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

A reminder

The social media Allows people to point direct messages to people from behind a screen

Their account .

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Call me a "boomer" or "old timer" or whatever, but any so called adult that would go after a college kid for any reason needs to reassess why they are on this earth.

Grown ups gamble and understand the risk of loss. If they don't, they should stop blaming their shortcomings as humans on the actions (or inactions) of kids.

Same goes for those who throw anonymous bombs here or on social media at those same kids. Maturity is a lost art, and actions come with an inherent burden of responsibility. We seem to have forgotten that in so much these days.

Thank you !!!

 

[Scarlet Jerry]

I think that there is a fundamental difference between commenting vs. attacking. Some people have anger issues and should just go to see a therapist rather than rant and deal with their frustration in an online forum. These are still college kids, even if they are getting paid.

 

[High Quality H2O]

kids that make $400k per year? they are getting paid to play, no?

and for the record, calling a player out on twitter with a @ mention is pretty terrible. but tweeting "Drew Timme couldn't guard my 70 year old mother" is pretty harmless, and is not what i would call "going after a kid on social media".

I agree with your Timme example.
There definitely is a gray area.

To your point if you are asking for / accepting a sum of money like that you need to be open to criticism.
You need to be prepared for that…somehow…

Now…how much criticism should come from the coach who is responsible for your performance and growth and how much from internet randos?

Who knows what was said to Derek…personally I think the more we can do to be a positive fan base the better we are as a program. Of course constructive criticism is healthy and we all have our moments : /

 

[scarletnewyorker2006]

So is the issue attacking people on social media or more specifically attacking young people on social media? What if the attacker is an 18 year -old chastising another 18 year-old, does that change things?

If I was a player’s father I’d suggest he either learn to not let it get to him like the pros are tasked with or get rid of the social media accounts. The alternative is to hate how unfair the world can feel and suffer. Shit ain’t going to get better just because you want it to, sorry to say.

 

[William J. Leggett]

The increase in sports gambling has caused a lot of this. I think there shouldn’t be gambling in college athletics. Pros yes but should not be legal for college kids. Most of these kids can’t buy a beer at the gas station but some guy can put $10,000 of his savings on this guys back. Those guys are also the ones that get more angry and loud when they lose.

Or make “kidnapping ransom style” declarations quiting as a fan…

 

[Plum Street]

AI? Are you talking about each social medias algorithm? Not sure what that has to do with it.

The issue is that we raised a generation of kids and told them things like “safe spaces” and “no bullies” and blah blah blah. When I was a kid, it was “sticks and stones.”

The reality is that there are mean people in the world. There are bullies. There are people that aren’t going to be in your corner as an individual.

Instead of teaching people that this is the harsh reality, we’ve tried to pretend that that’s not the case. And now we’re surprised people struggle with this stuff?

FWIW I’m 31, not 60. And after my age group is when this stuff starting changing.

There has been always been bullies and “sticks and stones”. But you get bullied at school and it ends in a fight or something . Or at the worst it continues and stops at the end of the school day. There are weekends and summer vacations . With social media the bullying is worse and it doesn’t stop at the end of the school day . It’s a 24-7 thing. Bad stuff .

 

[The RUT]

There has been always been bullies and “sticks and stones”. But you get bullied at school and it ends in a fight or something . Or at the worst it continues and stops at the end of the school day. There are weekends and summer vacations . With social media the bullying is worse and it doesn’t stop at the end of the school day . It’s a 24-7 thing. Bad stuff .

Sticks and stones is no longer a thing.

I acknowledge that it goes from school to online/social media now. I’m not implying that’s a good thing or anything like that.

What I’m saying is as society we have changed our stance on how kids should deal with it.

It used to be, “screw them it’s never going to hurt you.” Now, they’ve been trying to act like everywhere is gun drops and rainbows. When a kid actually does get bullied they don’t know how to mentally handle it.

 

[fluoxetine]

So if it’s money, I’m sure there’s people here making $400k or more a year. Should they be publicly ridiculed for an off day? I agree some light hearted ridicule is fine.

I also think a lot is much more, loosing bettors threatening players, etc.

I always wonder when constant mass critique and ridicule of those who entertain us (either as professionals or amateurs) became "part of life". I'm guessing that most here would wilt under the scrutiny of thousands or more constantly and publicly assessing, critiquing and denigrating every aspect of our job performance. Yet we ask that 18-23 year olds simply "tune it out" when they have been conditioned for much of their lives to interact with each other on social media.

College sports is weird because despite NIL it still kind of straddles the line between amateur and pro sports IMO.

Look, attacking people on Twitter (or elsewhere) for sports is nearly always going to be dumb, but at the same time I'm not going to feel that bad for a professional athlete that has to deal with "scrutiny". It's not the same as my job; I'm not in the entertainment business. Like it or not, if you are a pro athlete this is a huge part of what you're getting paid the big bucks for. It's not like being super good at basketball generates any value to the world outside of entertainment.

 

[Salvi's Headband]

Maybe it's because I'm older but I couldn't care less what some random strangers think/say about me.

I doubt you've ever been in a position where strangers cared enough to have an opinion about you. If hundreds of people on Twitter were telling too how much you suck it might bother you.

 

[RULoyal]

I doubt you've ever been in a position where strangers cared enough to have an opinion about you. If hundreds of people on Twitter were telling too how much you suck it might bother you.

I doubt it.

 

[needmorecowbell]

I doubt you've ever been in a position where strangers cared enough to have an opinion about you. If hundreds of people on Twitter were telling too how much you suck it might bother you.

Maybe we should have a social experiment. Take someone who thinks it’s no big deal or “you just need to ignore it”. Have 100+ people attack them on their favorite social media page for 4 years about their daily job performance. Let’s see if that bothers them at all. Let’s see if they can just ignore it. No one here would sign up for that, I guarantee it.

 

[MADHAT1]

Think about this or just feel if you can’t take it, stay off social media sites
A Different March Madness: Online Hate for the Athletes – NBC Bay Area
>During a three-month stretch last spring, at least five college athletes died by suicide. Among the reasons given by friends and family were the constant pressure of performing at a high level, the pressure to maintain a certain weight or physique, the fear of being perceived as weak because of injuries and the limited social opportunities because of the demands of a sports schedule.<

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/spo...madness-online-hate-for-the-athletes/3193196/

I for one feel if you can't control your emotions , you should expect to be villified for acting like a butthead over how college players make mistakes during games and nothing really can justify acting like a buttwipe over it.

Anonymous names make one braver than if one has to put their real name to an insult
But using an anonymous name will keep the petty idiots that look for trouble from bothering you personalty if they know your real name and start bothering you with phone calls and maybe visits.
So using anonymous names on social media isn't the problem, using it to post trash about people is the problem.

 

[MiloTalon13]

Maybe we should have a social experiment. Take someone who thinks it’s no big deal or “you just need to ignore it”. Have 100+ people attack them on their favorite social media page for 4 years about their daily job performance. Let’s see if that bothers them at all. Let’s see if they can just ignore it. No one here would sign up for that, I guarantee it.

The key is that for kids the ages of college players, a key way they communicate and interact with their friends and peers is through social media.
You could get 100K people to go after me on Instagram and tik-tok and I just wouldn't use those apps.
For most college kids that's not an option, those apps are an essential part of their life.
It actually seems sad when I type it up like that.
Sorry kids.

 

[RULoyal]

Maybe we should have a social experiment. Take someone who thinks it’s no big deal or “you just need to ignore it”. Have 100+ people attack them on their favorite social media page for 4 years about their daily job performance. Let’s see if that bothers them at all. Let’s see if they can just ignore it. No one here would sign up for that, I guarantee it.

Ready...........go!

 

[needmorecowbell]

Ready...........go!

Just post you social media pages and we’ll start this experiment.

 

[RULoyal]

Just post you social media pages and we’ll start this experiment.

What about right here?

 

[NickRU714]

The key is that for kids the ages of college players, a key way they communicate and interact with their friends and peers is through social media.
You could get 100K people to go after me on Instagram and tik-tok and I just wouldn't use those apps.
For most college kids that's not an option, those apps are an essential part of their life.
It actually seems sad when I type it up like that.
Sorry kids.

Alternatively, they've been on social media their entire lives. It's not like this is a new thing in the last year.

College kids are been online since middle school. This isn't the first time they've been exposed to or known about online hate.

The experiment above of taking a random old person today and puttimg them through the same is subjecting them to something that wasn't around their entire lives.

 

[NickRU714]

Just post you social media pages and we’ll start this experiment.

Promise?
My IG is currently at 100 followers.
I'll gladly take more - even hate follows from here. I need to quit my day job and get some of that "influencer" money.

 

[NickRU714]

What about right here?

You stink.

 

[RULoyal]

In all seriousness, I think something that also plays into it, especially for college athletes, is that they have probably been told how great they are for most of their athletic life. Getting crapped on is a new experience.

 

[sct1111]

I wouldn't be surprised if some IU clowns threatened Paul on social media. Easy to be a tough guy when you're anonymous.

All the boomers on here have no idea what they're talking about and have no idea what it's like to be exposed to the world the way these college kids are on social media.

 

[DowntownT_Brown]

The boomer argument of "teach them how to handle it like they taught us as kids" is a fail.

The world has evolved, new solutions are needed.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

None of us had to deal with this as kids/young adults. Just think before you post.

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Simpson harrassed by "degenerate gamblers." Seems like that's another level compared to this message board's comments, unless I am missing something. Some posting here, as I suggested once, could be losing their trousers betting on Rutgers basketball.

 

[colbert17]

Maybe it's because I'm older but I couldn't care less what some random strangers think/say about me.

This + 1000 %.
Reminds me of two things I've heard/read about this issue. I think it was Chappelle who said why should I care about what Dave from Ohio thinks about me on Twitter? I don't know him and he doesn't know me.
The other example I remember was a comment made by the 1960s LA Dodger outfielder Willie Davis. He made three errors in one inning in the World Series. Can you imagine how he would have been treated today? Even back then he caught a lot of crap. His response was ""It ain't my life and it ain't my wife. It's just a game."

 

[colbert17]

The boomer argument of "teach them how to handle it like they taught us as kids" is a fail.

The world has evolved, new solutions are needed.

I agree with you about 90%. There still is a lack of coping skills attained by kids either through parents, schools or peers.

 

[ancienthooper]

This thread is its own social experiment. The OP’s point, “Think before you post” or more simply “Be nicer to the kids” is debated for nearly 3 pages. If you’re one of the cement-heads with a dissenting opinion, you failed.

 

[MiloTalon13]

Alternatively, they've been on social media their entire lives. It's not like this is a new thing in the last year.

College kids are been online since middle school. This isn't the first time they've been exposed to or known about online hate.

The experiment above of taking a random old person today and puttimg them through the same is subjecting them to something that wasn't around their entire lives.

Exactly - zero perspective.
KIds are different. The older generation has been lamenting this for as long as history has been written probably longer. Deal with it.

 

[RULoyal]

This thread is its own social experiment. The OP’s point, “Think before you post” or more simply “Be nicer to the kids” is debated for nearly 3 pages. If you’re one of the cement-heads with a dissenting opinion, you failed.

Hmmm, calling people "cement-heads" in a thread about kinder/gentler internet posting.

 

[ancienthooper]

Hmmm, calling people "cement-heads" in a thread about kinder/gentler internet posting.

I was torn between cement-heads, blockheads and a**hats. The posters who launch on the players I'll go after 24/7.

 

[fluoxetine]

I mean "cement head" is probably kinder/gentler than average lol.