Pete Rose hired by Fox Sports? Edit Not Surprised
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Like who? The 60 year old Cincinnati fans who don't even know how to find FS1 on cable?
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I bet a lot of people care what Charlie Hustle has to say.
Bet more baseball fans want to hear what Rose has to say, then those who don't.
Even with Pete being out of the game for awhile and out of sight to the newer generation of Baseball fans, Rose's name has been part of
HOF discussions and the newer fans know about him and the fight to get him into the Hall.
For that reason alone Pete Rose will have many more listing to what he has to say, then those who don't want to hear anything from him.
Add in his career as a player and FOX1 picked a winner.
I bet a lot of people care what Charlie Hustle has to say.
Bet more baseball fans want to hear what Rose has to say, then those who don't.
Even with Pete being out of the game for awhile and out of sight to the newer generation of Baseball fans, Rose's name has been part of
HOF discussions and the newer fans know about him and the fight to get him into the Hall.
For that reason alone Pete Rose will have many more listing to what he has to say, then those who don't want to hear anything from him.
Add in his career as a player and FOX1 picked a winner.
So far White Bus is alone on this one. I'd much rather listen to Pete Rose than half the other baseball announcers out there. Unlike the dullards that run baseball, the fans have pretty much moved on from his gambling scandal. That leaves an older, seasoned HOF-caliber player/record holder and former manager. Assuming he has some kind of on-screen personality (can't really remember much of his interviews from when I was a kid), he'll be a nice addition. And people that do still hate him will tune in even more than those that don't. Win for Fox.
Let's see, Pete Rose or Joe Buck ... ?
Let's see, Pete Rose or Joe Buck ... ?
First of all the people that watch FS1 have never heard of him or care about him. It a young progressive channel who will bump Fatso for a soccer match anywhere in the world.
Second he has zero insight/inside info on the way the game has been played for the past 30 years.
Last why would anyone believe a word he says? Everything he does and says is about making him money. 30 years protesting that he never bet on baseball than admits it....to sell a book. Which he lied in it as well. He has no current relevance to today's game. None.
Hard to believe a baseball fan ( any) never heard of the player with most hits in baseball history and kept out of baseball's HOF because of his gambling.
As for insight, I think you are underestimating his knowledge and though forced away from the game, has supporters in every part of it.
About Pete's lying about gambling, for some it will be a deterrent, but others will look it as self survival and listen to what he says about the sport
because he knows more about it than many who have their own shows do.
Choosing to believe what he says about the game, is far different than believing what he claimed when he was busted gambling on the games.
One comes from playing and being a manager, the other is trying to refute the ( valid) charges against him about his gambling.
Fox1 is hiring someone with a sordid history, but with knowledge how the game is played and what goes on behind the scenes.
Funny thing is, WhiteBus will be watching Pete Rose more than anyone else in this thread in the name of "I'm going to see how right I was about how nobody cares about Pete Rose."
Wait, no one cares about what Keyshawn, dion sanders, Michael Ervin and the murder MLB from the Ravens has to say but we get those pillars of the community every Sunday.
Charlie Hustle is small potatoes.
Pete knows his sports.
Remember my thread 2 years ago when Pete asked me if I was "that Rutgers basketball coach",as I was wearing RU gear when I met him at a Route 10 car dealer in 2013?
Remember my thread 2 years ago when Pete asked me if I was "that Rutgers basketball coach",as I was wearing RU gear when I met him at a Route 10 car dealer in 2013?
You couldn't pay me enough to watch 10 seconds of his BS. I have heard enough of his crap and the staunch defenders of his for the past 30 years.
His only involvement in the game is selling his Hit King garbage at card shows.
WhiteBus, you are pretty vocal about Charlie Hustle. Are you sure you are not Bud Harrelson?
LOL. Loved Pete Rose as a baseball player. Unfortunately the man after the game has been an embarrassment. However, he took a page from P. T. Barnum and still has so many of you fooled.WhiteBus, you are pretty vocal about Charlie Hustle. Are you sure you are not Bud Harrelson?
Guess , when you started this thread, you expected everyone to agree with you.
But no one is defending what he did, only pointing out his vasts baseball knowledge that makes him a good hire by Fox1.
I haven't seen one post defending his gambling and lying about betting on games, so you can't claim his actions are being defended
Also pointing out that Rose is well known to all baseball fans, which you seem to disagree with, is hard to understand seeing he has been in the news ever since his ban . If you follow MLB you must of heard of him no matter how long you've been a fan .
His involvement with the game was curtailed for 30 years, but his knowledge of its workings are just as sharp as it was 30 years ago.
He remained close to some involved in MLB, even if he wasn't allowed to be involved himself and still has the knowledge that makes him a great hire by Fox1.
If selling cards at baseball shows is a knock, many Hall of Famers deserve the same for making you pay for their autograph at those same card shows.
That new Skechers commercial with his wife is cringeworthy. Guy is in a tough spot. He has to make $$$. Yes, he screwed himself, and he paid for it.
Actually I didn't think most who posted on here would agree. Pete is an extremely polarizing figure. To the day a radio show can spend hours taking calls from both sides.
Pete Rose only does and say things that will make him money. Period. He has admitted he doesn't follow the game that much anymore. But now he is an expert on the game.
This is just another push to get in the H.O.F.....to make more money.
Pete Rose only does and say things that will make him money. Period. He has admitted he doesn't follow the game that much anymore. But now he is an expert on the game.
This is just another push to get in the H.O.F.....to make more money.
4,256 hits. Some thought Jeter had a chance to beat it. Not. Even. Close. Yet many would bow to Jeter if he passed them on the street.
Pete bet on baseball. So what? If baseball made that a cardinal sin, then that was the fault of baseball. Baseball chose to ignore performance enhancing drugs and turn a blind eye to all but the most blatant pitcher's doctoring of baseballs. They say Peter never came clean. Did Ryan Braun come clean? Did Arod come clean? Yet both are still playing baseball. Players are stuck in the minor leagues who otherwise have made the big leagues but for the guys who cheat with performance enhancing drugs. Other players are making far less money because they play against or compete with players who jam their bodies full of performance enhancing drugs.
Yet the naysayers are afraid that Pete's betting on baseball may have made for some bias in his decisions as a manager? You mean to tell me that humans may exhibit bias in their decisions regarding baseball? If you don't want that, then you want to let the computers call balls and strikes. And I'm all for that. Get the umpires bias out of there. Balls are balls and strikes are strikes. Lets take favoritism for star players getting calls out of the game. Or for umpires bias toward home teams or whatever bias may enter into it. We have the technology. Just do it.
And get off Pete's back. He did far less wrong than all these cheats who are still playing or ever played the game. Nobody ever accused Pete, the baseball player, of cheating and he got 4,256 hits. 4,256 hits.
Pete bet on baseball. So what? If baseball made that a cardinal sin, then that was the fault of baseball. Baseball chose to ignore performance enhancing drugs and turn a blind eye to all but the most blatant pitcher's doctoring of baseballs. They say Peter never came clean. Did Ryan Braun come clean? Did Arod come clean? Yet both are still playing baseball. Players are stuck in the minor leagues who otherwise have made the big leagues but for the guys who cheat with performance enhancing drugs. Other players are making far less money because they play against or compete with players who jam their bodies full of performance enhancing drugs.
Yet the naysayers are afraid that Pete's betting on baseball may have made for some bias in his decisions as a manager? You mean to tell me that humans may exhibit bias in their decisions regarding baseball? If you don't want that, then you want to let the computers call balls and strikes. And I'm all for that. Get the umpires bias out of there. Balls are balls and strikes are strikes. Lets take favoritism for star players getting calls out of the game. Or for umpires bias toward home teams or whatever bias may enter into it. We have the technology. Just do it.
And get off Pete's back. He did far less wrong than all these cheats who are still playing or ever played the game. Nobody ever accused Pete, the baseball player, of cheating and he got 4,256 hits. 4,256 hits.
Really? Pete Rose has "zero insight/inside info"? However the WhiteBus has the inside scoop on the state of the game and the modern fan?
LOL
I love this place!
This is the typical response from Pete Rose apologists.
Not understanding why gambling is a cardinal sin in baseball or any sport shows how blind they are to reality in defense of Rose
So this comes as no surprise but Rose makes an ass out of himself for blasting Josh Donaldson for leaving last's nights game after he took a knee to the head. His analyses would be spot on if it were still the1970s but this just proves that this guy doesn't have a clue about today's games and sports in general. Also of no surprise is how he turned the story into another self centered comment about the way he played.
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/10/8/9484227/pete-rose-josh-donaldson-concussion
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/10/8/9484227/pete-rose-josh-donaldson-concussion
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Listen, baseball isn't football.It's pretty much the same as it was 30 years ago, and if Pete didn't have a betting problem, he'd still be a manager in MLB somewhere. You can Bet on it,lol.
Yeah, if it were still the 1970's (or even the 2000's?), players would not wear ski goggles when champagne is sprayed in the clubhouse after clinching. Don't have a problem with concussion precautions, but WTF with these goggles?
Charlie Hustle, commenting on today's players. It is way overdue! A stroke of genius by ESPN!
Now, it will be worthwhile checking in on that sports station!
White Bus, you have got to be kidden! I don't care what Bullsh*t they have held over his head for the past 3 decades, the guy is a Baseball Guru!
Now, it will be worthwhile checking in on that sports station!
White Bus, you have got to be kidden! I don't care what Bullsh*t they have held over his head for the past 3 decades, the guy is a Baseball Guru!
Oh, do you mean the pussification of American Sports? "Today's games" are a travesty to how they should be played! This stuff regarding safety of the players, is nothing more then appeasing all bleeding hearts, and of course all of the money involved withing the sport. It's more a liability issue with future lawsuits then anything else. So, don't fool yourself.
For selfish reasons I love Pete, he was a great guy and great team-mate to to those who played with him. Not to mention he was impossible to pitch to and the most feared two out, game on the line hitter I ever played against.
Baseball, is about hitting, fielding, running the bases, and managing the pitching staff. That will never change. Don't try to reinvent the game, it never works. Injuries,that's what the DL is for, and Pete knows the game, and can't wait to hear his take on stuff.
Exactly,it's the main reason the NFL demands an injury report to be issued in a timely fashion. Don't anybody kid themselves, it's for Vegas to set the line.
There are crimes against society, and then there are crimes against the sport. Pete Rose has been guilty of both. In 1990 he did the crime against society (tax evasion) and did the time. He, like those in the rogue's gallery which you cite, has not been banned from his sport for that offense, nor should he be. But unlike them, he also sinned against his sport -- the most heinous sin against a sport that there is. Fully deserving of the sport's equivalent of the death penalty.
Gambling by those involved in the competition is the sin. If you are suggesting there is hypocrisy here, I will not argue. But when those involved in the competition gamble on it, the integrity of the competition can be called into question. And if that happens, the popularity of the sport will disintegrate.
You make a good point. It just bothers me that of the thousands of ex players out there we have folks involved in serious physical crimes being used as a face for their sports. Kinda off topic but that's how I feel.
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