Peter Kiss COMMITS to Rutgers
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Kiss can probably slide over to wing. Wait and see how it plays out.
Of course. Mathis can also do that. Pikiell has mentioned to fans on here that he can see Baker playing point guard. I think Mathis can still very much play a role here. Both essentially 2018s.
No worries. They can definitely play small ball, but Kiss plays naturally more of a shooting guard. Whatever happens,happens.
No matter what, you take Kiss.
He is essentially everything the staff is looking for. And he has already shown he can do it at the D1 level. You cannot pass on that.
He is essentially everything the staff is looking for. And he has already shown he can do it at the D1 level. You cannot pass on that.
Mostly because we haven't been able to connect or attract serious interest from white recruits in either basketball program for a long time. Contrary to popular belief there are good white college basketball players. Would be great to attract all types of recruits.
Now I admit white or black doesn't matter. But really what's in play here is a brand of basketball or type of basket player that we don't attract. Different brand of basketball is played in Newark than Montgomery; U.S. than Europe, etc.
Would the team be better off replacing a guy like Laurent; athletic, runs the floor, finishes around the rim - with a guy who's less athletic, stretches the floor, passes well, and can facilitate on offense more? I'd like that type of player white or black. It just so happens more often than not it's a white player.
Sorry for that first post I can see that could be inciting.
white, black , brown, red, orange, blue, beige or polka dot
we don't want athletes, we want BASKETBALL PLAYERS
We have given far far far too many schollies to athletes over the last 20 years who have had little inherent basketball skills.
we don't want athletes, we want BASKETBALL PLAYERS
We have given far far far too many schollies to athletes over the last 20 years who have had little inherent basketball skills.
My only point is Rutgers will recruit over this kid and will almost certainly try to over the next 2 years. I am not sure he is a significant high major player and if he is at best he is a nice 8-10 minute rotation player. Put it to you another way if you are sitting here a year from now counting on Kiss being a key contributor to your team, then your team probably is very weak at guard.
He does provide depth.
He does provide depth.
If he is only a 8-10 minute a game player than why did the Johnnies want him? It sounds like sour grapes to me that he didn't choose the Johnnies. The Johnnies are not exactly a ranked team. By next year at this time both of your guards could be gone.
One detail you got wrong. Laurent could not finish at the rim.
Considering our roster isn't brimming with NBA talent, I sure hope we are constantly trying to recruit guy that are better than the ones we have now. Get the most talented basketball players you can, and the best ones play.
Welcome to Rutgers, Peter! You made a great choice!
Truth is that someone I know heard that Kiss had far more suitors for his services, but these other schools didn't have room or were out of scholarships, so he had more than 10+ total schools at a Big East or Power 5 level interested, but could not set visits because of the lack of room.
The 8-10 minute a player deal is not factual, because he has a full off-season to improve and get better and he's playing now with better overall talent/competition around him vs the MAAC...That doesn't mean I think Kiss is a 25-28 minute a night player, but if he earns those minutes, by all means he'll play those minutes.
This takes one more hurdle out of the way for finding players for the 2018-19 seasons, as of now we have Sanders (SR, assuming he is herefor that last year ), Kiss, Mensah and Geo Baker as potential guards....I truly don't see that as enough on paper, since Sanders and Mensah would be seniors and we would have Baker and Kiss as guards after the 2018-19 season.
RU hasn't landed a legitimate shooting guard as a recruit out of HS since Mike Williams committed prior to his senior year in HS (not viewing Justin Goode as a viable option or Ryan Johnson landed as HS recruits under Eddie).....while that sounds insane, it's factually true and speaks to the lack of depth we had on the roster.
The roster is primed and set to allow Kiss to earn 20-25 minutes a night as the SG position or the SF position, dependent on what you want to do. The roster is primed to also add another "gym-rat", which is what Mike Williams has turned into as a leader/worker........I am happy that Williams has taken on a leadership role in helping recruit kids like Kiss on what's being built here and this verbal opens the door for Montez Mathis to walk through as the 3rd 2018 transitional recruit....A start of Kiss, Doucoure, Baker as immediate impact players figuring into the Top 8-9 players is a good thing....
If you add a complimentary or starting caliber PG with Geo Baker having the ability to play either guard position, with Mathis and Kiss, the backcourt and SF minutes would be set up for the now (2018 and beyond). I still believe that Kiss will factor in more at the SF, where he has a better feel for passing, rebounding and can provide a shooting threat, in case Thiam isn't able to add the strength and improvement at the SF spot this upcoming season....at worse we have two shooting options at the SF position.
There would be so much flexibility with Mathis added to the equation (or a SG like Mattheu Cotton or the countless other targets we have offers out to)....all the guards have B1G size/strength at the SG spot now and there is depth we will add that can grow together down the road.
2018-19 season by the end of the summer won't look as scary as it did 3 to 6 months ago, if we add players at this level or better.
The 8-10 minute a player deal is not factual, because he has a full off-season to improve and get better and he's playing now with better overall talent/competition around him vs the MAAC...That doesn't mean I think Kiss is a 25-28 minute a night player, but if he earns those minutes, by all means he'll play those minutes.
This takes one more hurdle out of the way for finding players for the 2018-19 seasons, as of now we have Sanders (SR, assuming he is herefor that last year ), Kiss, Mensah and Geo Baker as potential guards....I truly don't see that as enough on paper, since Sanders and Mensah would be seniors and we would have Baker and Kiss as guards after the 2018-19 season.
RU hasn't landed a legitimate shooting guard as a recruit out of HS since Mike Williams committed prior to his senior year in HS (not viewing Justin Goode as a viable option or Ryan Johnson landed as HS recruits under Eddie).....while that sounds insane, it's factually true and speaks to the lack of depth we had on the roster.
The roster is primed and set to allow Kiss to earn 20-25 minutes a night as the SG position or the SF position, dependent on what you want to do. The roster is primed to also add another "gym-rat", which is what Mike Williams has turned into as a leader/worker........I am happy that Williams has taken on a leadership role in helping recruit kids like Kiss on what's being built here and this verbal opens the door for Montez Mathis to walk through as the 3rd 2018 transitional recruit....A start of Kiss, Doucoure, Baker as immediate impact players figuring into the Top 8-9 players is a good thing....
If you add a complimentary or starting caliber PG with Geo Baker having the ability to play either guard position, with Mathis and Kiss, the backcourt and SF minutes would be set up for the now (2018 and beyond). I still believe that Kiss will factor in more at the SF, where he has a better feel for passing, rebounding and can provide a shooting threat, in case Thiam isn't able to add the strength and improvement at the SF spot this upcoming season....at worse we have two shooting options at the SF position.
There would be so much flexibility with Mathis added to the equation (or a SG like Mattheu Cotton or the countless other targets we have offers out to)....all the guards have B1G size/strength at the SG spot now and there is depth we will add that can grow together down the road.
2018-19 season by the end of the summer won't look as scary as it did 3 to 6 months ago, if we add players at this level or better.
I'm sure the staff is trying to recruit over every player on the roster, and will be trying to recruit over every player in the 2018 class, too.
He's better than some of the other names I've thrown around, and *probably* an improvement over Laurent, but he couldn’t even post an ORtg over 100 in the MAAC (if you’d like to make the "he was a freshman" argument, I’ll point out his freshman teammate Mikey Dixon was a much better offensive player: 113.4 ORtg and 37% from three). I guess he has the potential to score but he was pretty inefficient and now he’s going to be facing defenses that are way way better in the B1G.
Again....knights1212....Beware of the messenger and his allegence.
Of course the messenger could be right ...time will tell.
My hunch (and my info) is that the kid is seen as having a lot of upside and will benefit with playing with better players. The off year with S&C will get this kid to be a 6'5" 210/215 type shooting guard that we are always competing against and have
Very good pick up
I am impressed with a player that scored double figures against Gonzaga and showed the ability to shoot/score off the dribble.His size as a guard also will be a asset for Rutgers.
I'm not sure pikiell views a kid he recruited hard at Stony Brook and then recruited equally hard here at Rutgers as a backup.. He believes in his game.
Welcome to the Banks PK. Nice job by our coaching staff.
This seems like the kind of "head scratcher" recruit that Belien typically comes up with.
Belien got that kid from Williams (D3), Duncan Robinson and then he got Spike Albrecht. Michigan just keeps bringing in guys that play that system which is tough to beat.
This seems like the kind of "head scratcher" recruit that Belien typically comes up with.
Belien got that kid from Williams (D3), Duncan Robinson and then he got Spike Albrecht. Michigan just keeps bringing in guys that play that system which is tough to beat.
Well when it come to crappy programs, St Johns College has always been one of the more highly regarded
Kiss put up 13.3 pts, 5.6 rbs, and 2.8 ast in 29.8 min in a Div I program as a freshman. He became a starter in game 12, and since then has averaged 14.8 pts, 6.9 rbs, 3.8 ast, and 1.2 stl in 33.4 min. He also had 3.4 to (a/t ratio of 1.1) and 1.9 pf in those minutes. As a starter, he averaged 4.4/8.8 (.500) from 2P, 1.2/4.6 (.264) from 3P, and 2.4/3.1 (.770) from FT.
Yes, his overall 3P% was just .277 (and .264 as a starter), which isn't great... though he did hit a rough patch late in the year (through 26 games, his average was a bit better at .311). By comparison, Nigel Johnson shot .279 and Mike Williams shot .240 as freshmen, so hopefully he can improve that into the .333+ range.
He'd also step onto the court as our best FT shooter right now. With his height/wingspan, he should improve our defense on the perimeter, if he buys into Pike's system. He's also transferring after his freshman year, so we'll get 2 years out of him without risk of grad transfer.
Give him a year of practice and S&C in Pikiell's system, and bring him onto the court as a RS Soph in 2018, and I'm expecting him to be a strong contributor.
Yes, his overall 3P% was just .277 (and .264 as a starter), which isn't great... though he did hit a rough patch late in the year (through 26 games, his average was a bit better at .311). By comparison, Nigel Johnson shot .279 and Mike Williams shot .240 as freshmen, so hopefully he can improve that into the .333+ range.
He'd also step onto the court as our best FT shooter right now. With his height/wingspan, he should improve our defense on the perimeter, if he buys into Pike's system. He's also transferring after his freshman year, so we'll get 2 years out of him without risk of grad transfer.
Give him a year of practice and S&C in Pikiell's system, and bring him onto the court as a RS Soph in 2018, and I'm expecting him to be a strong contributor.
Ha I was thinking the same thing but add "with height." First since Hodgson?
he has major upside so take your wet blanket routine back to Redmen.com. He can potentially be a part of returning to the NCAA tourney.
Hi! It's Mr. Grammar Guy!
When Kiss takes a shot, it can be either Kiss' shot, or Kiss's shot. Either is accepted, but to me, since you pronounce the s twice, I prefer Kiss's shot. But it isn't Kisses shot. Kisses is when the whole family comes to watch Kiss play. They are the Kisses. Their seats would be the Kisses' seats.
Carry on.
When Kiss takes a shot, it can be either Kiss' shot, or Kiss's shot. Either is accepted, but to me, since you pronounce the s twice, I prefer Kiss's shot. But it isn't Kisses shot. Kisses is when the whole family comes to watch Kiss play. They are the Kisses. Their seats would be the Kisses' seats.
Carry on.
Man, Hodgson was a player. Which game was that where he was perfect from the field, something like 11 for 11 IIRC.
Worth noting that Hodgson arrived from Indiana, not Quinnipiac. If Kiss is as unselfish and talented as Hodgson, we have something. Hodgson was a terrific all-around, winning player.
Love this pickup. Welcome Peter!
I'm well aware of where Hodgson played prior to RU, thanks, and yes he was.
I'm well aware of where Hodgson played prior to RU, thanks, and yes he was.
SHOOTERS.. we need em.. and to have our current players improve there dramatically.. so I hope they are shooting a whole lot of trees since the season ended and all summer long.
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