has anyone seen him play at this level (not just the mid major)
Is he more like:
Rick dadika
Ricky shields
Is he more like:
Rick dadika
Ricky shields
Peter Kiss
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Not sure how he's looked his practice but his Quinnipiac numbers were not great. Should improve with lower volume here (though he'll obviously be facing better defenses). Also didn't play competitive basketball until his sophomore year of HS, which is similar to Eugene so here's hoping he makes a big improvement from FR -> SO like Eugene did.
The big advantage he has over Dadika is his size... 6'4" or 6'5" vs. Dadika's 5'11". Should help him be a much better defender.
EDIT: Thought you said Jake Dadika so ignore that paragraph above.
The big advantage he has over Dadika is his size... 6'4" or 6'5" vs. Dadika's 5'11". Should help him be a much better defender.
EDIT: Thought you said Jake Dadika so ignore that paragraph above.
He played well against seton hall and gonzaga in disney last season. He kind of reminded me of that kid mathias last night, maybe not as impactful as I believe Mathias is a senior. But has a good shot, and plays smart basketball from what I saw
If we can end up with a kid who becomes our Mathias, we would all be thrilled. We need that catch and shoot guy from behind the 3 point line.
Thanks for this. He certainly has the right mechanics and his shot is very good. The key obviously is what he actually does in a game situation with someone guarding him close. Also, he's very coach-able and listens to instructions carefully which is a good thing. We desperately needed shooters, and there's no doubt Kiss and shoot. How he does at the B1G level, we shall see.
I don't know how good he is or isn't. But we need to stop with the the "well his numbers at Qunnipiac weren't good". That doesn't mean he can't shoot. Maybe he'll contribute little but to try to extrapolate his freshman year statistics to what he is 2 years later is not a good idea.
The key, to me, is to have enough shooters that a couple can have an off night. If Issa and Geo keep improving and Kiss and Harper can shoot in the mid-30% that's is something. Maybe we land another shooter this spring...
Ok good. Just kept looking for him next to Johnson during warmups or on the bench and never saw him...
Isaa yes. But you can't compare Trae Young to Kiss. Different players and Trae is a future first round draft choice, possibly top 5.
I watched the entire video and I would not describe his shot as "very good". Seems like he will be an inconsistent outside shooting threat.
It's hard to predict just watching the video. As I mentioned, it all hinges at how he plays in a real game situation. According to some here, he played really well against Gonzaga. I'll have to watch that video above.
I also would not describe him as an above average athlete as others have. Still think he can be good but he will need to rely on intangibles and effort.
Well, we'll have to see. I don't know why you don't think he's an above average athlete. Go watch the Gonzaga tape. The kid can play. Now, how many minutes he plays is up to the coaching staff. I think he's certainly an upgrade over Bullock and Mensah.
From having seen his highlights previously and watching a portion of the above practice tape, he doesn't look to have great lateral quickness and definitely not an above average jumper relative to his height. In his highlights he seems to like to score on floaters where he pulls up in front of a defender who has halted his progress. Not somebody with great speed or first step burst to get to the rim on a good defender like a Corey Sanders. And in the practice clip, while I understand part of that workout is to improve conditioning so he is definitely tired, he missed a number of simple dunk attempts. High level athletes that are also bball players don't miss multiple dunks in a short span while practicing, which indicates he has trouble getting above the rim with ease.
I trust Pike. IF he sees Kiss as a scrappy, tall guy that can shoot.... I am IN!
Again, we will have to see. The practice video didn't tell me anything really. It showed me he had good mechanics with his shot and that he's coach-able. The Gonzaga video showed me he can score against a top 25 team. And it showed me he CAN get down the floor quickly. But yes, like you stated he is not quick. He is not anything like a Corey Sanders. He reminds me a bit of a McQuade from Michigan State. If he turns out to be a player to give us decent minutes and can make a few shots, then he becomes part of the depth of this team. He's definitely right now not a starter. He's a kid who comes off the bench and gives us important minutes while the starters get a blow.
I'm not sure how anyone would have seen him play at this level since he has not played at this level and Rutgers own talent level does not exceed that of several of the MAAC teams by very much.
I watch a handful of Quinnipiac games each year since the school is down the street from me. He shot some ill-advised 3's that brought down his numbers but I do think he can get his shot off and can shoot a better percentage. Free throw percentage was mediocre and can't really explain that away by shot selection. The issue about his competitiveness that was mentioned above is this hurt him at times at Quinnipiac last year. It cost them vs Fairfield I believe was the game with reckless decisions. I guess its better to have it and have to tone it down a few notches than not have it and have to try to find it. The coach will need to reign that in but it might not be as noticeable when he isn't one of the top guys on the team. I'd think he'd be a guy who comes off bench and can play but I don't think he should be starting right away for a team looking to move up Big Ten Standings.
Mikey Dixon was the far more complete player.
BTW, Quinnipiac somehow is in the MAAC semis after being picked last preseason in MAAC.
I watch a handful of Quinnipiac games each year since the school is down the street from me. He shot some ill-advised 3's that brought down his numbers but I do think he can get his shot off and can shoot a better percentage. Free throw percentage was mediocre and can't really explain that away by shot selection. The issue about his competitiveness that was mentioned above is this hurt him at times at Quinnipiac last year. It cost them vs Fairfield I believe was the game with reckless decisions. I guess its better to have it and have to tone it down a few notches than not have it and have to try to find it. The coach will need to reign that in but it might not be as noticeable when he isn't one of the top guys on the team. I'd think he'd be a guy who comes off bench and can play but I don't think he should be starting right away for a team looking to move up Big Ten Standings.
Mikey Dixon was the far more complete player.
BTW, Quinnipiac somehow is in the MAAC semis after being picked last preseason in MAAC.
Met him in men's room after our win vs Minnesota game at msg. Nice guy. Pike is very high on his athleticism and shooting. And if Pike is high on him, I trust his judgment. Furthermore Kiss seems to have a sense of confidence about himself
Did you go to midnight madness or see his put back dunks from Quinnipiac? His dunks show a certain level of athleticism.
Good size for a guard, average, at best, speed, quickness, and jumping ability, nice release on his shot (nice elevation and quick release), but mediocre accuracy based on that tape and not a particularly impressive handle. My guess is he's destined to be a 3rd or 4th guard playing 10-15 minutes a game with a focus on being an outside shooter, if he can come off the bench and hit some treys. Don't think he's a starting B1G guard, but seems like a good kid, who can be an important part of a team. Of course, I could be wrong.
No and to be clear, he is definitely a better athlete than your average guy is just a spot up 2 guard shooter. But he's not Mac Mclung or Corey Sanders either.
Rutgers will not see a sanders type of athlete for another four five years. Kiss will be a better player than Mac McClung in college
Still hoping Sanders comes back.... having Sanders, Baker, Mathis, Thiam, Kiss, and Harper to choose from for the 120 min at the 1-3 slots is a great problem to have.
This year it was just Sanders, Baker, Williams, and Thiam... so they all basically had to average 30 min/g.
This year it was just Sanders, Baker, Williams, and Thiam... so they all basically had to average 30 min/g.
. . . with the notable exception of Souf! But, all kidding aside, I too have heard good things about Kiss in RU practices and his tape shows talent.
