PG Noah Farrakhan returnng to NJ
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Miami vs. NYC and Philly, not to mention a ton of cultural attractions in NJ cities? No contest.
Food in FL vs. food in NJ? Please. The restaurants in NJ (without even counting NYC/Philly) blow the restaurants in FL away, especially with regards to pizza, bagels, diners, and most kinds of ethnic food (especially in CNJ/NNJ, home to immigrants from all over the world). FL wins on early bird specials, lol.
History in FL vs. NJ? Again, please.
Climate is very personal, but the heat/humidity in FL for 7 months of the year are unbearable and there's no seasons to speak of, plus no snow. I'm a snow nut, but I also love the seasons, so no contest for me.
The Everglades are cool, but I'll take the rolling hills and small mountains in NJ. I also much prefer Jersey Shore towns and boardwalks over most of the FL beach towns.
I get FL if you truly hate the snow/cold and taxes, but don't try to claim any cultural, history, food, or other advantages, as they're just not there. You get what you pay for.
Play golf 4 days a week, drive my golf cart to my favorite bar, go to seemingly endless parties, concerts and dance events in and near my community (with 63 holes of golf with excellent conditions year round), monthly assessment is $241 (includes basic cable and 100 meg internet and 2 boxes) and with the money I don't waste on taxes, insurance and just plain bullshit I can take 2-3 trips a year to Europe, go to a few RU games and take an annual ski trip. Yeah Florida sucks. https://www.timberpines.com/
I live in both NJ and Florida. Both are great in many ways. And very different. But people are not migrating from NJ to Florida for financial reasons, only. There’s plenty to do in both states to keep busy and entertain yourself.
You're way off on this one. It's much more humid in Florida than almost anywhere else in the US, with parts of the Gulf Coast having similar humidity levels as northern FL (like Houston, which is just as bad as most of FL), but nobody has more humidity in the US than South Florida. DC isn't even in the same ballpark.
Factoring in the combined heat and humidity (heat index), FL is off the charts vs. almost everywhere else.
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/hot-humid-days-cities.php
It was almost like rain except the water was rising from the ground into the air. I've never experienced anything like it before or since. By the 11th hole my clothes dried out.
Interesting. It doesn't feel like it to me. There were days in D.C. where it was so bad I had difficulty breathing some summer days. I've never come close to experiencing that in Florida. I wonder if the humidity is that high inland. Jacksonville is on the coast. Also, we're trying to give Jacksonville back to Georgia.You're way off on this one. It's much more humid in Florida than almost anywhere else in the US, with parts of the Gulf Coast having similar humidity levels as northern FL (like Houston, which is just as bad as most of FL), but nobody has more humidity in the US than South Florida. DC isn't even in the same ballpark.
Factoring in the combined heat and humidity (heat index), FL is off the charts vs. almost everywhere else.
https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/US/hot-humid-days-cities.php
I think Philly (I lived there once) and NYC suck. Miami isn't my cup of tea, in fact I almost never go further south than Ft. Lauderdale, but there are plenty of nice spots in Florida. I've never had a bagel in my life but I had a pizza last night for the first time in a couple of years and it was delicious.
In the late 90s when I took a job in Orlando I wasn't sure I was going to like it due to all of the tourists. But Since the theme parks aren't really in Orlando I was able to live my life without thinking about the theme parks, the tourists or the traffic that comes with all of that unless I had to be at a theme park as part of my job.
But I love it here and really don't want to live anywhere else. Christmas Day it's supposed to be 77 degrees so we might have dinner by the pool.
Sorry, all of FL is humid like that, with very high morning humidities (80-90%) and fairly high afternoon humidities (50-65%). It's simply the nature of having a humid subtropical climate for northern/central FL and a truly tropical climate for southern FL. Of course, there will be individual days in DC (and even NYC) that are as hot/humid as any day in FL, but the number of hot/humid days in any part of FL greatly exceeds the number of similar days in DC.
https://climatecenter.fsu.edu/products-services/data/other-normals/relative-humidity
If you want to check various cities across the US, here's the link I got the graphics from in my earlier post. Simply type in the city, then click on the "climate" button and scroll down for humidity.
https://www.weather-us.com/en/florida-usa/miami-climate
I was being a little over the top, given your first post on FL. I get that people can be happy almost anywhere and if people like golf and water sports and warm weather year round and low taxes, I'm sure FL is great for them. My dad and my sister love it. But I'm pretty sure 9 out of 10 people will rate the culture, restaurants, and history in NJ (especially when factoring in easy access to NYC/Philly) ahead of almost anywhere in Florida, although more than a few probably don't care about those things.
For me, though, the biggest deal-breaker is the weather. I simply hate hot/humid weather and would hate not having seasons and love snow - in fact, I cringe every winter visiting my family, worrying about missing a good snowstorm back in Jersey (has only happened once in the last 15 or so years since we've been going down to Vero every winter around Christmas to visit). Also, for me, not being close to Rutgers and going to football/hoops games and not being near all of our friends and not having all of the cultural/dining advantages are important, too.
NJ did away with its estate taxes in 2016, effective 2018, as we found out when my wife's father died in 2017, which was a transition year, where estates were only taxed for assets above $2MM vs. the old law, where the estate tax started being assessed at only $675K, the lowest in the country (huge difference for my wife and her siblings). Of course, real estate and income taxes are still pretty high in NJ and NJ does still have inheritance taxes (on assets left to non-spouses/children/parents/grandchildren).
https://www.tiaa.org/public/offer/services/individual-advisory-services/repeal-of-the-nj-estate-tax
The biggest thing that sucks about Florida is listening to Northerners that move down leaving the high cost of living and bitch about what they had up north and don’t have down in Florida.
Some people find the weather fascinating. I haven’t looked at a weather report in 30 years.
Some people find the weather fascinating. I haven’t looked at a weather report in 30 years.
Not even when there’s a cat 5 hurricane bearing down on you? Florida’s got its own weather issues.
Based on your observations, obviously you have not been to the Gulf Coast, more specifically Sarasota/Bradenton. Great theater, restaurants1, beaches and I agree, no snow. BTW I am retired and I am not just "waiting to die". LOL
I went to a point guard thread and a weather report broke out.
I think I figured out why the heat/humidity doesn't bother me much. I like hot weather and I'm in the office most of the day. When I play golf it's either an early tee time with a group or a 4 p.m. solo round.
Culture? Great restaurants? As long as I can go to Ruth's Cris now once or twice a year I'll gladly trade restaurants and culture for no state income tax and low real estate taxes.
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