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Pitt vs PSU

Pitt football is reemerging as a football power whether you believe it or not.

You can watch it happen starting tomorrow.

The Penn State cultist are fearful of this fact.

Joe Pa is gone and you have a coach who has not demonstrated he is capable of sustaining the Penn State program as in the past (accusations of molestations/cover up etc aside-will let the courts decide the truth.)

Penn State football is in decline.

This is why programs such as Rutgers, Maryland and Pitt will all contribute to the continuing decline of the Penn State football.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Pitt football is reemerging as a football power whether you believe it or not.

You can watch it happen starting tomorrow.

The Penn State cultist are fearful of this fact.

Joe Pa is gone and you have a coach who has not demonstrated he is capable of sustaining the Penn State program as in the past (accusations of molestations/cover up etc aside-will let the courts decide the truth.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

The dialogue is great but you still haven't said anything other than your Chancellor being involved in the hiring of your HC and AD. I'd like to know the resources you spoke of earlier.

Regardless if Franklin will ultimately be the guy, whoever would be next would be handed less challenges, better facilities (brand new academic support center, brand new players lounge, remodel of indoor practice field, brand new locker room) and a better roster than what Franklin was handed. Those are facts. As long as he continues to recruit well, I don't care if he is the guy or not.
 
The dialogue is great but you still haven't said anything other than your Chancellor being involved in the hiring of your HC and AD. I'd like to know the resources you spoke of earlier.

Regardless if Franklin will ultimately be the guy, whoever would be next would be handed less challenges, better facilities (brand new academic support center, brand new players lounge, remodel of indoor practice field, brand new locker room) and a better roster than what Franklin was handed. Those are facts. As long as he continues to recruit well, I don't care if he is the guy or not.

If you wish, you can go to our free football Board and in section (Sticky Threads) you will find a rather comprehensive listing.

Thread Topic:

"For Visitors to this Board an intro to Pitt's facilities and campus" posted by Crazy Paco.

As an aside we share identical practice facilities with the Pittsburgh Steelers and both have been upgraded recently (with Steeler input). Upgrades include new players lounge, locker rooms, conference room, academic support etc. actually quite impressive) You can google specifics (descriptions and views) if interested.

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If you wish, you can go to our free football Board and in section (Sticky Threads) you will find a rather comprehensive listing.

Thread Topic:

"For Visitors to this Board an intro to Pitt's facilities and campus" posted by Crazy Paco.

As an aside we share identical practice facilities with the Pittsburgh Steelers and both have been upgraded recently (with Steeler input). You can google specifics if interested.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Exactly so there are no additional resources...which is exactly what I hinted at originally.

Like I said, no one GAS about PITT football, that's the problem. It isn't because of resources. PITT went all in on basketball and built a facility to support that. Meanwhile, your basketball team is about on par with your football team at this point and you still haven't figured out that there is no legit D1 talent in the W part of PA. Who was the last highly regarded player from the WPIAL? Dante Calabria?
 
If you wish, you can go to our free football Board and in section (Sticky Threads) you will find a rather comprehensive listing.

Thread Topic:

"For Visitors to this Board an intro to Pitt's facilities and campus" posted by Crazy Paco.

As an aside we share identical practice facilities with the Pittsburgh Steelers and both have been upgraded recently (with Steeler input). Upgrades include new players lounge, locker rooms, conference room, academic support etc. actually quite impressive) You can google specifics (descriptions and views) if interested.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

BTW, LOL @ you thinking I could go to your free board.
 
Exactly so there are no additional resources...which is exactly what I hinted at originally.

Like I said, no one GAS about PITT football, that's the problem. It isn't because of resources. PITT went all in on basketball and built a facility to support that. Meanwhile, your basketball team is about on par with your football team at this point and you still haven't figured out that there is no legit D1 talent in the W part of PA. Who was the last highly regarded player from the WPIAL? Dante Calabria?

LOL!!!!

I listed sites that you can visit or explore.

I thought we where in a football discussion but if you want to discuss basketball programs let's wait until our respective schools play a basketball game against each other. I believe we have scheduled basketball games with Penn State.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
BTW, LOL @ you thinking I could go to your free board.

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You can go to the free football board and just "click" on the site I referenced.

You don't have to talk to anyone and no one will be aware you are there.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
LOL!!!!

I listed sites that you can visit or explore.

I thought we where in a football discussion but if you want to discuss basketball programs let's wait until our respective play a basketball game against each other. I believe we have scheduled basketball games with Penn State.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Well, considering Pete took up the space that could be used for football, I thought it was relevant to the discussion.

We can agree to disagree and move on. You believe PITT football has struggled because of lack of resources and I completely disagree. I believe it's because people don't care about PITT football.
 
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You can go to the free football board and just "click" on the site I referenced.

You don't have to talk to anyone and no one will be aware you are there.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Considering I'm banned there because I said something negative about PITT here, that isn't possible.

What's funny is that @9nationalchampionships is one of the worst PL posters there is and he recently posted on BWI. Maybe I should have zapped him because of something he said elsewhere. Sean Miller was just there the other day as well and no one gave him the ban hammer. Whatever.
 
Well, considering Pete took up the space that could be used for football, I thought it was relevant to the discussion.

We can agree to disagree and move on. You believe PITT football has struggled because of lack of resources and I completely disagree. I believe it's because people don't care about PITT football.

Win and they will come.

Let me address another "urban legend" with respect to the Pittsburgh Steeler's and attendance.

Since you are from Pittsburgh, I will give you a ref to an article (12/14/13) written by Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette entitled "On the Steelers: How low can attendance go."

Excerpts:

"Last Sunday they (Steelers) experienced their smallest crowd at Heinz 52,489 with 13,000 no shows. That dragged down average attendance this season to 59,376 which would be the lowest since moving into Heinz in 2001."

The previous low average attendance at Heinz occurred during the Steelers 6-10 season of 2003 (59,698).

In 1999 the 6-10 Steelers had 3 games below 50,000 fans including one at 39,428.

Lose and they won't.

Let me also point out another big difference between our school with respect to entire student body. Pitt has a total student body of about 35,000 while Penn State has a total student body of about 90,000.

That translates into significantly more alums which can attend a football game.

However, although significantly smaller than Penn State, Pitt has an Endowment of $3.6 billion and conducts approximately $900 million in sponsored research. These numbers are slightly higher than Penn State (LOL just thought I would mention these facts.)

Agreed no point in further discussion.

Let the games begin.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Win and they will come.

Let me address another "urban legend" with respect to the Pittsburgh Steeler's and attendance.

Since you are from Pittsburgh, I will give you a ref to an article (12/14/13) written by Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette entitled "On the Steelers: How low can attendance go."

Excerpts:

"Last Sunday they (Steelers) experienced their smallest crowd at Heinz 52,489 with 13,000 no shows. That dragged down average attendance this season to 59,376 which would be the lowest since moving into Heinz in 2001."

The previous low average attendance at Heinz occurred during the Steelers 6-10 season of 2003 (59,698).

In 1999 the 6-10 Steelers had 3 games below 50,000 fans including one at 39,428.

Lose and they won't.

Let me also point out another big difference between our school with respect to entire student body. Pitt has a total student body of about 35,000 while Penn State has a total student body of about 90,000.

That translates into significantly more alums which can attend a football game.

However, although significantly smaller than Penn State, Pitt has an Endowment of $3.6 billion and conducts approximately $900 million in sponsored research. These numbers are slightly higher than Penn State (LOL just thought I would mention these facts.)

Agreed no point in further discussion.

Let the games begin.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Wow, that is a great article. Pretty much proves what I have been saying forever that there is no way in hell that Steelers fans are the best in the NFL and that Pittsburgh has the most fair weather fans in all of professional sports. Notice how many fans there are of the Steelers and the Pens and how little Buccos fans there are (or have been). Pretty easy to root for a team when they are always in the thick of it. One of the many reasons I can't stand the Yankees.

Here's to a game tomorrow that sees no one get injured...either on the field or off.
 
Considering I'm banned there because I said something negative about PITT here, that isn't possible.

What's funny is that @9nationalchampionships is one of the worst PL posters there is and he recently posted on BWI. Maybe I should have zapped him because of something he said elsewhere. Sean Miller was just there the other day as well and no one gave him the ban hammer. Whatever.
Is that true? You were banned on that board for a comment made here?
 
Well, considering Pete took up the space that could be used for football, I thought it was relevant to the discussion.

We can agree to disagree and move on. You believe PITT football has struggled because of lack of resources and I completely disagree. I believe it's because people don't care about PITT football.

The practice facilities with multiple fields including indoor field is located on the South Side of Pittsburgh (about 1.5 miles from campus) former J& L Steel site. Flat open area with plenty of room for expansion if required.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
In all seriousness, talk to your Penn State brethren about their "day game" football experience at Heinz Field (post game) and all the surrounding amenities to be enjoyed.

Visiting Florida State fans who have never been to Pittsburgh raved about how great the trip to Heinz and Pittsburgh and will come again.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Of course they enjoyed it. Wintson started his first game going 25-of-27 for 356 yards on the way to an easy 41-13 win.
 
Is that true? You were banned on that board for a comment made here?

Yep. Guy I tagged was the one to report it on Panther Lair too. Meanwhile, he is the most disgusting poster on PL.

I know our free board is known for not being very tolerant but I know for a fact it isn't that bad.
 
The practice facilities with multiple fields including indoor field is located on the South Side of Pittsburgh (about 1.5 miles from campus) former J& L Steel site. Flat open area with plenty of room for expansion if required.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Then why don't they build a stadium there and become legit? I've always heard there was no room for it. That would certainly be considered a valuable resource.
 
Yep. Guy I tagged was the one to report it on Panther Lair too. Meanwhile, he is the most disgusting poster on PL.

I know our free board is known for not being very tolerant but I know for a fact it isn't that bad.
Wow tough crowd. BTW the guys on the First Team on XM College sports have this as the game of the week. Should be a good one with Connor vs. Barkley.
 
Wow tough crowd. BTW the guys on the First Team on XM College sports have this as the game of the week. Should be a good one with Connor vs. Barkley.

I think most rational folks on either side believe that this will be a very evenly matched contest that could go either way. I still think it comes down to who dominates tempo. I also think PITT is in trouble if Whitehead can't play in the box and cheat. Who knows though. Nardog might say to hell with it and put him in the box regardless of how McSorley and our WRs/TEs do.
 
Knight no disrespect just an FYI.

CBS Sports ranked the Top 15 B1G Football games to be played this year.

CBS ranked the Pitt-Penn State gameas the 8th most important game to be played in the B1G.

Aside from the "in-state rivalry" which does exit, the game will be widely viewed by many conference members because it pits an ACC Conference member versus a B1G Conference member (contribute to conference bragging rights).

The game will be featured on ESPN at noon.

This game will generate much more interest than matches with Villanova or Kent State.

Thank you for your support and will return the support when you guys play the cult.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

ESPN at noon...not exactly prime time...I'm sure it's a big deal to you and the cultists...other than hoping for an infinity to 0 state penn defeat, eh!

"PERSONALLY" I sure have not even thought of this game...no one I know that follows football (RU or otherwise) has brought it up...VA Tech and Tenn...that's a different story...but that's a one time gimmick...

This game may have been ranked high by ESPN by virtue of its long hiatus, but it will not garner a lot of viewership outside your state and the immediate region...that's not meant as a knock, it's just not that sexy a game! 4 or less in the ratings...that's my guess (but I could totally be wrong)

Heck if my Aggies and steers ever play again in the regular season, it won't be that big a game outside of Texas...and regionally! People in NJ or the west coast will simply note, " oh cute, they're at it again...neat...and move on"

Regardless, beat the cult!
 
The dialogue is great but you still haven't said anything other than your Chancellor being involved in the hiring of your HC and AD. I'd like to know the resources you spoke of earlier.

Regardless if Franklin will ultimately be the guy, whoever would be next would be handed less challenges, better facilities (brand new academic support center, brand new players lounge, remodel of indoor practice field, brand new locker room so now players don't have to shower where 10 year old boys were raped) and a better roster than what Franklin was handed. Those are facts. As long as he continues to recruit well, I don't care if he is the guy or not.

kjb - I helped you fill in a detail above (in bold). No need to thank me!
 
Wow! Kinda proud of our board that these guys from Pitt and PSU come here to argue. I get the distinct feeling that this game matters WAY more to Pitt than Penn State. (Unless Pitt wins, in which case PSU fans will go batsheet crazy!) I am old enough to remember when this rivalry was a big deal in the late 70s and early 80s. It was as big as Bama-Auburn back then. (I was in grad school at PSU 81-83.) If I wasn't going to be at HPSS at noon tomorrow I would definitely be watching this one.
 
Penn State is a fellow B1G program, so I'll be rooting for them to win. More than any previous time in my life, these out-of-conference games mean so much to how a conference is thought of nationally. A rising tide lifts all boats. In-conference, well, that's a different story.

It's kinda like organized crime families. We'll take care of cleaning up our own messes, thank you very much. But if another family wants to clean up our mess, then it's war.

Following the SEC's lead: B1G!, B1G!, B1G!, etc.
 
Wow! Kinda proud of our board that these guys from Pitt and PSU come here to argue. I get the distinct feeling that this game matters WAY more to Pitt than Penn State. (Unless Pitt wins, in which case PSU fans will go batsheet crazy!) I am old enough to remember when this rivalry was a big deal in the late 70s and early 80s. It was as big as Bama-Auburn back then. (I was in grad school at PSU 81-83.) If I wasn't going to be at HPSS at noon tomorrow I would definitely be watching this one.
Yep! This a great game if you love College Football no matter who you are rooting for! Also need to get the Backyard Brawl going again!
 
ESPN at noon...not exactly prime time...I'm sure it's a big deal to you and the cultists...other than hoping for an infinity to 0 state penn defeat, eh!

"PERSONALLY" I sure have not even thought of this game...no one I know that follows football (RU or otherwise) has brought it up...VA Tech and Tenn...that's a different story...but that's a one time gimmick...

This game may have been ranked high by ESPN by virtue of its long hiatus, but it will not garner a lot of viewership outside your state and the immediate region...that's not meant as a knock, it's just not that sexy a game! 4 or less in the ratings...that's my guess (but I could totally be wrong)

Heck if my Aggies and steers ever play again in the regular season, it won't be that big a game outside of Texas...and regionally! People in NJ or the west coast will simply note, " oh cute, they're at it again...neat...and move on"

Regardless, beat the cult!

Knight the reason the game was scheduled for noon is because the Pittsburgh Pirates have a 7 pm game that night and Heinz Field and PNC Park share common parking lots.
You have to get the 70,000 fans leaving the Pitt vs Penn State game out before the Pirate fans begin to arrive.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Then why don't they build a stadium there and become legit? I've always heard there was no room for it. That would certainly be considered a valuable resource.

Why spend $400 million for a facility that you will use only 7 times a year (28 hours).

That money could better be spent on additional Research facilities.
For every dollar dollar coming to the University $0.95 comes from Research Funding and $0.05 comes from athletics.

Did I mention that Pitt conducts $900 million per year in Research and Development expenditures.

In the end it would only be an erector set stadium (like Penn State) and you will not have all the amenities incorporated in Heinz Field and surrounding area(Hotels,Restaurants,Bars,Casino,Tailgating,Location etc).

After the game your Penn State brethren will tell you what a great setting and venue it was to enjoy a football game.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Why spend $400 million for a facility that you will use only 7 times a year (28 hours).

That money could better be spent on additional Research facilities.
For every dollar dollar coming to the University $0.95 comes from Research Funding and $0.05 comes from athletics.

Did I mention that Pitt conducts $900 million per year in Research and Development expenditures.

In the end it would only be an erector set stadium (like Penn State) and you will not have all the amenities incorporated in Heinz Field and surrounding area(Hotels,Restaurants,Bars,Casino,Tailgating,Location etc).

After the game your Penn State brethren will tell you what a great setting and venue it was to enjoy a football game.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Erector set or not it is one of the best venues in football.

Congrats on the research. I couldn't care less TBH. You won't build an on campus stadium because you know you can't fill it and make money from it. That's one of many reasons you'll continue to be a nothing program.

No one from Penn State is going to sing the praises of a rental NFL stadium after being to games at PSU, OSU and even UM. You should leave the city of Pittsburgh from time to time. There's actually a whole big world out there that isn't filled with IC Light and Euchre.
 
Erector set or not it is one of the best venues in football.

Congrats on the research. I couldn't care less TBH. You won't build an on campus stadium because you know you can't fill it and make money from it. That's one of many reasons you'll continue to be a nothing program.

No one from Penn State is going to sing the praises of a rental NFL stadium after being to games at PSU, OSU and even UM. You should leave the city of Pittsburgh from time to time. There's actually a whole big world out there that isn't filled with IC Light and Euchre.

We are getting mauled up front, but this post made me feel so much better.
 
Penn State is a fellow B1G program, so I'll be rooting for them to win. More than any previous time in my life, these out-of-conference games mean so much to how a conference is thought of nationally. A rising tide lifts all boats. In-conference, well, that's a different story.

It's kinda like organized crime families. We'll take care of cleaning up our own messes, thank you very much. But if another family wants to clean up our mess, then it's war.

Following the SEC's lead: B1G!, B1G!, B1G!, etc.

It is awfully odd for someone on a Rutgers forum to have as a first post the recommendation to root for Penn State.
So very suspicious. Yes root for Big Ten teams in their out of conference games...except for Penn State
No self respecting person roots for Penn State.
 
We are getting mauled up front, but this post made me feel so much better.
Ummmm.............Pitt averages 52,000.

I can understand if your a fan of a program everybody hates. On top of being nothing other than a mid tier big 10 program. The ONLY thing you can hang your hat on is attendance lol.

Attendance sure helped Penn st today lol Lucky Pitt's offensive coordinator went into a shell when Pitt was up 28-7. Or your beating would of been A LOT worse.
 
Erector set or not it is one of the best venues in football.

Congrats on the research. I couldn't care less TBH. You won't build an on campus stadium because you know you can't fill it and make money from it. That's one of many reasons you'll continue to be a nothing program.

No one from Penn State is going to sing the praises of a rental NFL stadium after being to games at PSU, OSU and even UM. You should leave the city of Pittsburgh from time to time. There's actually a whole big world out there that isn't filled with IC Light and Euchre.
Dude. Your team sucks. Your program is now 3rd best in Pa. Thats the facts.

You think that would humble a fan base. Nope!

Attendance! Attendance! Attendance! Lol

Now go say a prayer to your joepa cut out.
 
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Erector set or not it is one of the best venues in football.

Congrats on the research. I couldn't care less TBH. You won't build an on campus stadium because you know you can't fill it and make money from it. That's one of many reasons you'll continue to be a nothing program.

No one from Penn State is going to sing the praises of a rental NFL stadium after being to games at PSU, OSU and even UM. You should leave the city of Pittsburgh from time to time. There's actually a whole big world out there that isn't filled with IC Light and Euchre.
You're the 3rd best team in Pennsylvania. Penn State sucks so bad that our worst team since 2004 may beat you.
 
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