Cannot underestimate the importance of this post. I can’t tell you how much hedging goes on against us because there were certain guys that they dared to beat us that the odds said they won’t because of their offensive limitations. This hedging slowed down the offensive games with less space for Corey, geo, Freeman, and Even Eugene to operate
Politi on Ron Harper Jr, Sr and Rutgers.
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Cannot underestimate the importance of this post. I can’t tell you how much hedging goes on against us because there were certain guys that they dared to beat us that the odds said they won’t because of their offensive limitations. This hedging slowed down the offensive games with less space for Corey, geo, Freeman, and Even Eugene to operate
Good post Hawk - from what little I know I am also trying to think of a B1G player / role that RHJ could play......interesting that you thought of Falzon - to me I can see his role being similar to that of Josh Reaves at PSU. Could you see him in that role? Reaves plays GREAT defense and I can see Harper filling that role on our team.
So we've already decided that he's 6'7" to 6'8".
Why stop there. Who knows. He could grow to 6'9" to 6'10". Let's plan on that.
Daddy Harper seems to be very sure junior will add at least several inches in height.I think all Rutgers BB fans would love him be that kid who nobody cared about but by dumb luck and coaching staff effort chose us. 6 ‘ 8 “ to 6’10. “ sign me up.
Interesting thing in that article is that Politi lists him at 6-5 right now, not 6-6 like the recruiting services have him. I've also seen weights listed from 200-220, and that may be low.
Will be interesting to see what height/weight he gets listed at on sk.com when he arrives on campus - which will probably get posted some time in August.
Will be interesting to see what height/weight he gets listed at on sk.com when he arrives on campus - which will probably get posted some time in August.
Almost every year, it takes just the smallest impetus to start fans here musing about how an incoming recruit is ready to grow another 2, 3 or more inches. And, so, the off season has begun.
Well, Thiam grew from 6-9 to 6-10... don't you know one data point makes a trend? :)
I honestly don't really know what his height/weight is right now, let alone what it'll be next year. He might very well grow 2 inches.... to get to the 6-6 his recruiting profiles already have listed. ha
went from 6-9 190 to 6-10 190...if you believe this kind of stuff his BMI went down!
In all seriousness did he do and ounce of strength work in the offseason?
Maybe his body put all the extra calories he was eating into more height, lol.
Can you imagine someone telling you to drink malted milkshakes everyday? Other than RU having their name read on the 2nd Sunday in March I don't know what would sound better.
Quick Math - HARPER Height
You also can estimate a teen’s height in inches by doubling his shoe size and adding 50. This what is known as a “quick” relationship rather than an on-the-nose accurate correlation, notes “Elementary Statistics,” by Robert Russell Johnson and Patricia Kuby. For example, if your shoe size is 10, your height might be 71 inches as opposed to the 70 inches that the formula would provide. 18
Harper Jr - Shoe Size 18. Double it to 36 and Add 50 = 86. Divide by 12 and you get our new 7 footer!!!
You also can estimate a teen’s height in inches by doubling his shoe size and adding 50. This what is known as a “quick” relationship rather than an on-the-nose accurate correlation, notes “Elementary Statistics,” by Robert Russell Johnson and Patricia Kuby. For example, if your shoe size is 10, your height might be 71 inches as opposed to the 70 inches that the formula would provide. 18
Harper Jr - Shoe Size 18. Double it to 36 and Add 50 = 86. Divide by 12 and you get our new 7 footer!!!
The conversation about Harper only started because his Father said he is still growing and he is still 16. His father probably knows he is still growing, right?
I don't remember any previous conversations on this board about guys getting taller after they commit. Can you name a few?
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The conversations about Harper remind me of the conversations about Geo Baker...not a Big 10 player... Remember those?
Two big questions. 1) is he catch and shoot player or does he need to dribble a few times and 2) how fast is his release
As his father, if junior has had any e-rays, he would know if his growth plates are still open.
If you have a 7'1" wing span at his height I don't think it matters..he will get his shot off.
More importantly, he will know if his 16 year old son is still growing. Not some dudes on a message board.
We're talking about an alleged member of the Dream Team here, I trust him https://sports.theonion.com/ron-harper-won-t-stop-telling-people-he-was-on-dream-te-1819576516
Ron Harper Senior is a former NBA player who wants his son to follow in his foot steps. The thought that he would NEVER ask a Docter to look into this is just Stupid. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
We are still waiting on that list of guys that this board talks about almost every year. You know...those discussions about guys still growing 2-3 inches. OR, did you just make that up?
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I thought he looked much more defined this year than last year. Last year he was a bean pole with no muscles. This year he looked like he had more definition (but still a bean pole...lol).
I don't think that he will ever be a guy who is jacked, as that doesn't appear to be supported by his frame. But your suggestion that he didn't do any strength and conditioning this year is just stupid.
Are you giving us insights as to who you're going to bash this year now that Corey will most likely move on?
Last year it was Geo who did grow an inch or two. The year before that was Issa who EJ said grew to 6’10” from around 6’8” - 6’9”. And there’s Bullock who gained 3 inches.... around his waist. I kid.
Why do so many of our fans have to downgrade our players? Do those that are criticizing get their kicks out of this?
There is a petty and snarky attitude towards fans that are positive...i.tried to explain how 2-3 people i trust that watch some of Bakers play with no RU affiliation, all raved about his skills and we would not miss Nigel Johnson too much...not because Nigel didnt have value (he did in comparison to the bench options) but it was about player development.
We have another project and player whose upside is clear and it's strange how fans envy everything else that goes on elsewhere....regarding Harper, i will see him live in an All Star game in 2 weeks in a game with mulitiple D1 prospects. It will be a non-HS game, where the environment isnt controlled so he will have a chance to show whats going on there.
A lot of recruiting is beating your opponent or competition in evaluation of talent. There are safer recruits that can probably play better next year....the key is 2-3 years from now, not November-December of 2018....i can already anticipate fans writing off Harper, Myles Johnson if they don't immediately contribute.
In Connecticut...i will send or post some info on the board here but its Sunday April 8th...I'll get the rosters of players that are supposed to be playing but it does also go up against the Jordan Brand game that weekend.
Going back in time, wasn't it Mike Jones who went from an under recruited 5-11 to 6-4 between his junior year of HS and enrolling at RU?
