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Politi's Article On The Season

Well I disagree on no AHC, and so does Chris Ash. Twitter says he just hired Charlie Partridge as AHC.
Disagree on Hazell too. He was head coach at Purdue and Kent State--guessing he had a big hand in running their offense.
I need a link on the Twitter Partridge thing. I'm not finding what you're talking about.
 
He did make a positive statement when he said about the program getting back to respectable levels. So he is saying that we were once respectable.Dots nize.
 
Disagree with you on your previous post. He is apparently a killer recruiter in Florida.
That's nice, but we can only have so many coaches and we need help on the offensive side of the ball. We have some talent on the OL and it has under-performed. Nothing else on the offense is going to work if our QB is running for his life on every pass play.

Whereas we are recruiting okay at the moment (although not counting those chickens until they hatch).

And we already have enough experience on the defensive side of the ball.

Call me skeptical about the Charlie Partridge rumor. But who knows. I'll be unhappy with the hire, should it come about. We have bigger fish to fry and need proven winners - not proven losers, no matter how well they recruit.
 
That's nice, but we can only have so many coaches and we need help on the offensive side of the ball. We have some talent on the OL and it has under-performed. Nothing else on the offense is going to work if our QB is running for his life on every pass play.

Whereas we are recruiting okay at the moment (although not counting those chickens until they hatch).

And we already have enough experience on the defensive side of the ball.

Well, Mr. Television on another site said it was a false rumor, so it must be true--but now he is saying it looks to be true to who knows--think it is happening and in the works.

Call me skeptical about the Charlie Partridge rumor. But who knows. I'll be unhappy with the hire, should it come about. We have bigger fish to fry and need proven winners - not proven losers, no matter how well they recruit.
 
That's nice, but we can only have so many coaches and we need help on the offensive side of the ball. We have some talent on the OL and it has under-performed. Nothing else on the offense is going to work if our QB is running for his life on every pass play.

Whereas we are recruiting okay at the moment (although not counting those chickens until they hatch).

And we already have enough experience on the defensive side of the ball.

Call me skeptical about the Charlie Partridge rumor. But who knows. I'll be unhappy with the hire, should it come about. We have bigger fish to fry and need proven winners - not proven losers, no matter how well they recruit.

You have been really negative today. Did you eat too many carbs? :grimace:
And maybe Ash thought we needed a Partridge to compete with the one at Michigan?
 
You have been really negative today. Did you eat too many carbs? :grimace:
And maybe Ash thought we needed a Partridge to compete with the one at Michigan?
I don't think it's negative because I don't think it really happened. I'll only be negative it turns out to be true. And it's not negative to say that that hire makes no sense if only done to recruit Florida.
 
I don't think it's negative because I don't think it really happened. I'll only be negative it turns out to be true. And it's not negative to say that that hire makes no sense if only done to recruit Florida.
Just ribbing you there, mildone, but think this is happening. There seems to be smoke, but the fire disappeared for now. There is more to it than Florida recruiting. Maybe he unloads the DL coach he was seen fighting with, or the ST coach.
 
I'm calling bullshit on the rumor.

I mean, why not? The worst that can happen is I'm wrong. And I totally hate the idea of hiring him. We're not running a friends and family thing. It's a football program, not a save the recently fired list.

Ash should hire someone w/lots of experience as an OC and OL coach. Not some loser with defensive experience who's sole claim to fame is he had a good recruit or two from Florida in the past.
 
Just ribbing you there, mildone, but think this is happening. There seems to be smoke, but the fire disappeared for now. There is more to it than Florida recruiting. Maybe he unloads the DL coach he was seen fighting with, or the ST coach.
If we fire another defensive coach, then fine. But we need more help on the offensive side of the ball.

By "fine" I mean, firing a D coach makes room to hire another D coach to replace him. Which is okay. And it leaves room to hire a really experienced O coach.
 
If we fire another defensive coach, then fine. But we need more help on the offensive side of the ball.

By "fine" I mean, firing a D coach makes room to hire another D coach to replace him. Which is okay. And it leaves room to hire a really experienced O coach.
I agree with you on needing much more help on offense than defense. Got to trust Coach Ash.
 
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If we fire another defensive coach, then fine. But we need more help on the offensive side of the ball.

By "fine" I mean, firing a D coach makes room to hire another D coach to replace him. Which is okay. And it leaves room to hire a really experienced O coach.
I think the need for some help on the offensive side of the ball is clear. I do not know these things are mutually exclusive. Who is to say that we do not do both?

One of the things I have seen and appreciate with Ash is he is blunt. There is not a lot of "coachspeak" with him - he is no Bill Belichick. His assessment of special teams was brutally honest. And that is just with the media. Most coaches are more guarded with the media and more open with their personnel behind closed doors.

If there is a change that he feels will make the team better moving forward, he does not seem the type to shy away from that.
 
I think the need for some help on the offensive side of the ball is clear. I do not know these things are mutually exclusive. Who is to say that we do not do both?

One of the things I have seen and appreciate with Ash is he is blunt. There is not a lot of "coachspeak" with him - he is no Bill Belichick. His assessment of special teams was brutally honest. And that is just with the media. Most coaches are more guarded with the media and more open with their personnel behind closed doors.

If there is a change that he feels will make the team better moving forward, he does not seem the type to shy away from that.
Agreed.

I didn't originally consider that he might let another D assistant go, opening the path to hiring both a new D assistant AND adding a new O assistant. But if he does that, that makes perfect sense (especially if he's having a personality or alignment issue with one of the D coaches).

As I've said elsewhere, I hope he brings in a really experienced co-OC with a history of successfully coaching an OL on a good P5 team. Ideally a team that played a power spread O, although perhaps that's not so important, I don't know.

Wouldn't be surprised if he switches up the ST coach in the off-season as well. Although maybe we really just need a much better kick production to ease the pressure on the coverage units (and to make field goals beyond 35 yards reliably).
 
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Agreed.

I didn't originally consider that he might let another D assistant go, opening the path to hiring both a new D assistant AND adding a new O assistant. But if he does that, that makes perfect sense (especially if he's having a personality or alignment issue with one of the D coaches).

As I've said elsewhere, I hope he brings in a really experienced co-OC with a history of successfully coaching an OL on a good P5 team. Ideally a team that played a power spread O, although perhaps that's not so important, I don't know.

Wouldn't be surprised if he switches up the ST coach in the off-season as well. Although maybe we really just need a much better kick production to ease the pressure on the coverage units (and to make field goals beyond 35 yards reliably).
Definitely need an upgrade at kicker and punter. That has to be part of any recruiting strategy - whether by scholarship, PWO or grad transfer.
 
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Nothing shocking here, and the tone was analytical and not attacking. This season was known for mind-blowing things we did or didn't do, but I didn't realize until reading the article that we didn't score first in a single game this year. Let's hope Ash knows what he's doing. He's our coach so I'm behind him and look forward to signing day, and there is so much work to do I don't even know what to say.

Season Assessment
Article was spot on. As many of us have said, weak talent + very competitive B1G this year = lousy year, but not necessarily 2-10 with 5 major blowouts bad, i.e., the coaching does need to improve and it should with a new staff.
 
You're an infant. Grow up, son.

Nonsense. That paper has, on multiple occasions, done malicious, purposeful damage to the school's reputation. No reason whatsoever to support them. It's not a matter of burying one's head in the sand, or ignoring fair criticism. Its a matter of refusing to support a company that has done such harm in the past. I will never again purchase a Star-Ledger paper in my life.

People who don't realize the damage done need to wake up. There are reasons the general public thinks that Rutgers athletics are a massive waste of taxpayer money, and it isn't because they are reading the annual budget proposal. There are also reasons that our politicians uniformly believe that cutting funding to Rutgers (and otherwise passing legislation harmful to the school) is a safe play politically. All are tied to general impressions of the institution, which are driven by the leading local news source.
 
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We don't have more talent than 2-10 suggests. I have seen much more talented 2-10 teams. Except for Grant, our talent wasn't that far above Howard.
What's going to happen next year when we have less talent than this year?
 
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