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Ron Harper Jr.

For the love of God, please stop shooting 3's.

If he has open looks on a 3, I want him to take it every time. Yes, he is shooting poorly at this time, but he showed in high school that he was a good shooter. Probably a little bit of nerves and being anxious.

Keep shooting Ron if you are open.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 
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He had a terrific defensive possession today where a kid eventually got past him at a poor angle and one of our bigs didnt step up to alter the shot and kid made a tough bank kinda layup. Hes been fine on D
You're certainly entitled to your opinion.
 
RU doesn't just miss shots, these misses are ugly - over the rim by a foot, to the left by 6 inches, off the back the rim or backboard. And Harper is the worst offender. I don't think it's just going to start falling - needs to do something with his mechanics I assume.

His mechanics are fine; had a hell of a teacher don’t forget that. Shooting - like playing hard and winning - is infectious. Young teams play as much off emotion as they do talent. When those 2 aren’t working for you but, instead, are working against you, then what we’ve seen the last few games is the result: REALLY ugly shooting that’s results in sloppy all-around play. Our kids, every time they go up to take a shot, are thinking “I can’t miss this shot” instead of “this shot is going down,” and you can see it.

I’ll say it again: Hobbs Needs to hire a shrink who specializes in helping athletic teams because our entire athletic department is in severe need of help. It’s been a problem for a while and it’s very obvious in the lack of passion our teams come out with to start games, to start second-half’s, etc. etc., among other things, and we need to put an end to it. Our entire athletic problem has a severe case of, I don’t know, athletic insecurity??
 
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Even if he has the green light to take the open three, not good to keep shooting when they don't fall. Especially if you are missing badly. Drive to the basket or pull up for a mid range jumper. We definitely need his shooting to come around, but he has to be smarter with his selection. Hard to tell how good he is at creating his own shot.
 
Keep shooting the ball. All the confidence in the world in Ron Harper. Players go through these things before it clicks and when it does, look out.
 
Honest question, is his % the lowest in the country for guys with at least 25-30 attempts from 3?

I LOVE his play inside the 3 point line. Always finds the right spot, makes quality passes and has a good touch with his shot.

Him and Mathis shouldn't be shooting 3's this year. Looking forward to both of them developing over 4 years .
 
Very weird strategy to take with the consummate best shooter in the state of nj last year
 
If you didn't know he was the best shooter, you wouldn't know it.
Maybe he has to get use to the college game. Some of his misses are almost unexplainable.
IMO all of his misses are pretty well described by "he is a true freshman"
 
It's the speed of the game and height of defenders vs. what he faced in high school. The release point and trajectory are going to need to change. He has his work cut out for him but I think he's one of the best equipped to make it happen.
 
It's the speed of the game and height of defenders vs. what he faced in high school. The release point and trajectory are going to need to change. He has his work cut out for him but I think he's one of the best equipped to make it happen.
Good point and hopefully he finds it sooner than later. The problem is that when he has the wide open look the results are the same. If he was also missing in practice, easier to understand, but apparently he makes those shots.
 
Good point and hopefully he finds it sooner than later. The problem is that when he has the wide open look the results are the same. If he was also missing in practice, easier to understand, but apparently he makes those shots.
It's strange but I've (I think, at least) observed that only really great shooters are really money at wide open threes. I see this as one of the biggest differences between the NBA and college. Even a great shooter like Douby wasn't nearly as automatic when left open as you'd think he would be.

In Harper's case, I would say that it's a rhythm thing. You have guys who are streaky rhythm shooters, but there's a different, more macro type of rhythm. If it gets in your head that you have to change your rhythm most of the time, it affects the remainder of your shots, the ones where you theoretically could use the same exact timing and motion that you got comfortable using in the first place.

If he's making them in practice, that's another story. Without any info, seems like it could be a failure of practice methods that he would feel any differently shooting in a game than he does in practice. Especially so when we have such length on the team, it's not like we don't have guys who can get in his face and simulate game defense. It doesn't seem like it could be a mental makeup kind of thing, kid looks super comfortable on the court in general and with a dad that played with the greats, I don't think the stage intimidates him at all.
 
It's strange but I've (I think, at least) observed that only really great shooters are really money at wide open threes. I see this as one of the biggest differences between the NBA and college. Even a great shooter like Douby wasn't nearly as automatic when left open as you'd think he would be.

In Harper's case, I would say that it's a rhythm thing. You have guys who are streaky rhythm shooters, but there's a different, more macro type of rhythm. If it gets in your head that you have to change your rhythm most of the time, it affects the remainder of your shots, the ones where you theoretically could use the same exact timing and motion that you got comfortable using in the first place.

If he's making them in practice, that's another story. Without any info, seems like it could be a failure of practice methods that he would feel any differently shooting in a game than he does in practice. Especially so when we have such length on the team, it's not like we don't have guys who can get in his face and simulate game defense. It doesn't seem like it could be a mental makeup kind of thing, kid looks super comfortable on the court in general and with a dad that played with the greats, I don't think the stage intimidates him at all.
The other part of his game seems OK. Unfortunately, what we need the most is what he hasn't provided. Not enough other guys who have his capability from 3.
 
If he has open looks on a 3, I want him to take it every time. Yes, he is shooting poorly at this time, but he showed in high school that he was a good shooter. Probably a little bit of nerves and being anxious.

Keep shooting Ron if you are open.

Best of Luck,
Groz

He needs to see a few go through the rim. He will be fine, IMO. He didn't forget how to shoot.
 
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Harper is going to settle down and be a very good shooter on this level. It’s not falling for home right now but he needs to keep working on it. The kid has a solid game and when he settles down he will be a major contributor.
 
You guys do remember that Sam Dekker scored less than 3 points per game as a freshman at Wisconsin? Yeah, THAT guy, who became an All-American and has been a starter in the NBA for a couple of seasons. Harper, Mathis, et al, will run into speed bumps along the way, but expecting them to perform like one-and-doners at this stage of their careers is asking a bit much.
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You guys do remember that Sam Dekker scored less than 3 points per game as a freshman at Wisconsin? Yeah, THAT guy, who became an All-American and has been a starter in the NBA for a couple of seasons. Harper, Mathis, et al, will run into speed bumps along the way, but expecting them to perform like one-and-doners at this stage of their careers is asking a bit much.
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Excellent analogy. With Ron it’s about patience, patience, patience!! If he gets an open look from 3 in the ball reversal flow of the offense, tee it up!! As he knocks down a few, he’ll gain some confidence. Watched him in practice today and really excited about RHJ future.
 
You guys do remember that Sam Dekker scored less than 3 points per game as a freshman at Wisconsin? Yeah, THAT guy, who became an All-American and has been a starter in the NBA for a couple of seasons. Harper, Mathis, et al, will run into speed bumps along the way, but expecting them to perform like one-and-doners at this stage of their careers is asking a bit much.
TL

According to sports reference, none of what you stated above is true. Perhaps you are thinking of someone else?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dekkesa01.html

I don’t think it’s being too harsh for anyone to say they are disappointed Harper is shooting 46% FT and 13% from 3. I’m sure he would say the same. To your point, it’s also still very early in his career so once he gets a bit more comfortable, the shots will fall. For the time being he will just need to continue to contribute in other ways.
 
Whoever is bashing Harper in this thread is an IDIOT.

The kid can shoot. I’m actually pleasantly surprised at the other aspects of his game. He needs to keep shooting.

For all the know it alls (I had a better word earlier), let’s revisit over the course of his RU career.
 
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