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[MCKnight2004]

This says it all, the next two years WE MUST BREAKTHROUGH

Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein·3h

No better time than right now be a non-traditional power in the Big Ten. Indiana, Ohio State, and Wisconsin all undergoing transition.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Tweets are cheap. All three programs have top-flight, proven coaches, tradition, and deep pockets. None of these three are going to lose any sleep over non-traditional powers.

 

[LotusAggressor]

Two of those programs were in the Final Four relatively recently. Wisconsin probably should have won a championship. Ohio State fired a coach who won 323 games, had 12 consecutive 20 win seasons, and went to a Final Four. It's not like they suddenly suck. They had a couple of mediocre seasons that would have generated petitions for statues at RU.

 

[Scangg]

Two of those programs were in the Final Four relatively recently. Wisconsin probably should have won a championship. Ohio State fired a coach who won 323 games, had 12 consecutive 20 win seasons, and went to a Final Four. It's not like they suddenly suck. They had a couple of mediocre seasons that would have generated petitions for statues at RU.

Very true but I'll take mediocre seasons from them over final four seasons all day

 

[Russ Wood]

Tweets are cheap. All three programs have top-flight, proven coaches, tradition, and deep pockets. None of these three are going to lose any sleep over non-traditional powers.

Then why did Indiana and tOSU fire their head coaches instead of waiting for the turnaround?

 

[Mr_Twister]

Then why did Indiana and tOSU fire their head coaches instead of waiting for the turnaround?

Those schools have very, very deep pockets and programs with high expectations. The school's leadership know it is smarter to send coaches packing a year early, if necessary, rather than a year late. Rutgers can not do that. Unlike Rutgers, which has probably surrendered 10 years of dreadful recruiting classes over the last 30 years by waiting too long before showing a coach the door, Indiana and Ohio State did the pruning necessary. The recruiting classes of Indiana and Ohio State will surprise many.

 

[Russ Wood]

Those schools have very, very deep pockets and programs with high expectations. The school's leadership know it is smarter to send coaches packing a year early, if necessary, rather than a year late. Rutgers can not do that. Unlike Rutgers, which has probably surrendered 10 years of dreadful recruiting classes over the last 30 years by waiting too long before showing a coach the door, Indiana and Ohio State did the pruning necessary. The recruiting classes of Indiana and Ohio State will surprise many.

Lots of hand wringing over Tom Crean at IU, going back to 2014. Boosters wanted him gone then, AD stuck by him. Even gave him a public vote of confidence in the spring of 2015. Deep pockets or not, it would have been very expensive to fire Crean in 2014 or 2015, their AD may have lost a little bit of sleep while IU wasn't getting back to where they were in the distant past and Northwestern, Purdue, Iowa and newcomer Maryland were making B1G moves.

I don't know that their recruiting classes will surprise many -- unless their expectations are low.

The expectation is that Miller is a very good recruiter and now he'll have IU's resources.

Holtmann brought his staff with him from Butler and they're working hard to get involved with Tim Finke, Luther Muhammad, Dwayne Cohill and Jeremiah Francis to name a few top prospects. They have five spots to fill. They already flipped Kyle Young for 2017.

 

[Mr_Twister]

Always appreciate the informative responses. Thanks.