RU Indoor Athletics now has a VAX mandate
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If there is a way to break a good spell, Rutgers will find it.
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Listen, the vaccination thing, I can handle, but this is just absurd!
No politics, no arguing, no more warnings. If you start something here, it will result in you being banned from the thread.
Just shut it down. We already beat the number 1 team.
It’s hard to argue with these temporary policies , but some will find a way.
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1. anyone have a kid with a photo ID?
2. If someone is not vaxxed is RU offering refunds because their policy has changed?
3. It's taking 5 days to get a Covid result back. The 72 hour covid test will be very difficult to achieve.
4. Why no alcohol?
1. anyone have a kid with a photo ID?
2. If someone is not vaxxed is RU offering refunds because their policy has changed?
3. It's taking 5 days to get a Covid result back. The 72 hour covid test will be very difficult to achieve.
4. Why no alcohol?
Hard pass and will be asking for refund
Dont want them touching my credentials with their dirty hands or have access to medical information
Dont want them touching my credentials with their dirty hands or have access to medical information
I totally agree with this and I posted about that on the hoops board. In theory, I have proven that I'm vaxed and boosted upon entering, yet they're worried if I remove my mask for a little bit for a bit to eat or a sip of a beer? Now, I tend to not eat or drink much at basketball games, but I know others do, especially if they can't grab dinner to get to a 7 p.m. game.
Can you specifically state what we are or not allowed to post in this thread. Thank you. This is an issue that is front and center so asking not to discuss seems incredibly odd
In the interests of doing what can be done to prevent overloading the healthcare system, which is full of ordinary people being asked to deal with a never-ending extraordinary situation, I approve of this decision and others like it.
Stupid policy. They've already shown that being vaxxed doesn't stop someone from spreading it.
With Omicron flying around, vaccinated ppl are getting it just as much. So for me, being immune suppressed and not really certain how much my vaccination means, if anything, I don't dare go to a sporting event now anyway.
Predicted this on TOS. Makes sense to me - I was always surprised vaccination wasn't required for attendance from the get-go, especially given RU's requirement of vaccination for students.
Also notice the announcement didn't define "full vaccination." It's very possible the US will follow Israel's lead on this and update the definition of fully vaccinated to equal boosted, given waning immunity from the vaccines, coupled with significant evasion of the vaccines and previous infection from omicron. The good news is very little waning of immune response is being seen so far among the boosted (and initial indications are that omicron is significantly less severe than all previous variants, which is good given how much more infectious it is).
I agree that the no food/alcohol policy seems a bit silly to me if everyone is vaccinated/negative.
Also notice the announcement didn't define "full vaccination." It's very possible the US will follow Israel's lead on this and update the definition of fully vaccinated to equal boosted, given waning immunity from the vaccines, coupled with significant evasion of the vaccines and previous infection from omicron. The good news is very little waning of immune response is being seen so far among the boosted (and initial indications are that omicron is significantly less severe than all previous variants, which is good given how much more infectious it is).
I agree that the no food/alcohol policy seems a bit silly to me if everyone is vaccinated/negative.
If this is directed @ me.
My post is not politics or argumentative at all. We can't disagree with a terrible decision? I think it is YOU injecting YOUR politics with the threat. Agree or get banned? OK Mr. Zuckerberg. As long as things are civil, discussion of anything related to RU athletics should be allowed.
But vaccination, especially if boosted, does significantly reduce infections and transmissions.
I'm not sure that's the case for the new variant. Think of how long it took Delta to get here to the US after it was discovered in India. Six, eight months? Compare that to Omicron, which was discovered a month ago and is already the dominant strain in the US. Definitely reduces illness severity and such, but transmissibility? not so sure.
It's true that vaccinated people can still spread COVID. That's been true right from the start.
However, I don't think that's the key deciding factor at this time. I think the key driver is taking steps to limit the number of hospitalizations. And unvaccinated people are at far greater risk of hospitalization, due to COVID, than fully vaccinated people.
The transmissibility of Delta, and even more so with Omicron, is so intense that, even if Omicron continues to produce fewer serious illnesses, in general, the much greater numbers of infected all occurring at once can overwhelm the healthcare system.
And overwhelming the healthcare system is a bad thing because then people with COVID and non-COVID who require intensive care will not get that care. And so many will die who would otherwise, when the healthcare system is not overwhelmed, would survive.
I agree with people who think this situation sucks. But I also understand the logic of doing what can be reasonably done to prevent totally unnecessary deaths - if at all possible.
I think they meant you vaxxed vs me showing a negative test from 3 days ago and both of us in the arena.
you don't know who is who. and a negative test 3 days ago means absolutely nothing today. Honestly, a negative test this AM does not mean you are not positive this evening.
This is long term folks. You will be doing the same for years..showing your medical records
Yeah, I don't understand that restriction at all.
Perhaps they're trying to avoid people lowering masks to consume food?
But as others have alluded, masks are a mixed bag in terms of helpfulness. N95 masks would be very helpful, but nobody has them (and they're uncomfortable when worn properly). The rest are only a little helpful, and not nearly helpful enough when sitting inside a crowded arena.
I think the vaccination requirement makes sense, especially if it's only temporary until transmission rates subside below 1.0. But I think the food/alcohol thing makes little sense.
This is 100% true. Either keep the system as it was or move to 100% vaxx. No in-between. It is hard to get a PCR test without hours long wait, and it is taking more than 3 days to get results.
Re-reading that, yes, you are right, next to impossible to determine, so they just removed it from the equation. They couldn't police the mask mandate from before, no way they are dealing with that too.
Partly agree. For omicron, boosted people clearly are being infected less than unvaccinated and unboosted people, but vaccinated/unboosted people are showing minimal protection against omicron infection and previously infected, but unvaccinated people are being reinfected at high rates too. And not being infected means less transmissions, by definition. As you said, vaccinated but not boosted people are still seeing strong protection against severe COVID (but not as strong as for previous variants).
For previous variants, even those who were symptomatic, despite vaccination, people were infectious for much shorter times than unvaccinated people, as their immune responses kicked in far faster than for unvaccinated people - I don't know that we have data on that for omicron yet.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/19/health/omicron-vaccines-efficacy.html
https://theconversation.com/no-vacc...-unvaccinated-people-if-they-get-covid-171302
Glad to see common sense prevailing at RU!
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