RU Indoor Athletics now has a VAX mandate
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Richie - clearly there is a ton of interest in COVID on the board, for obvious reasons. Have you ever considered doing a poll to see whether people want COVID threads and maybe how they might want them (moderated, unmoderated, single thread, etc.)? Perhaps you guys would have to do a lot less thread locking/deleting/moving if we went back to having a COVID thread (probably moderated). Could be a win/win, with less work by you guys, but still allowing some discussion of an important topic and maybe the board, overall, would be "happier" (even if some wouldn't like it, maybe more would like it). TOS has allowed single COVID threads (moderated) on both the free and premium boards and it seems to be working. Not trying to be argumentative - just think it's worth thinking about.
True, there are a number of ironies to all this that I've been trying not to voice because it's very bleak humor at best. And because it might reveal way too much of my slightly sociopathic fondness for Darwinism. So I've been mostly adhering to the "it's too soon" rule to start making my typical douchebag pointed jokes about all this. 😃
Several organizations with which I'm associated, in one way or another, are requiring vaccination. Unless COVID largely burns itself out soon, I suspect that vaccine mandating thing to only expand.
This basically how I feel right now. Lots of family/friends in the system directly taking care of Covid patients ... they're exhausted and over this stupid pandemic as much as we are ... doesn't help that I've been hearing stories from them that quite a few of the covid patients come into the hospital dictating what kind of care/drug they receive ... drives the workers insane ... least I could do is get vaxxed for them
I'm guessing that is a topic around which we on the RU sports forums can find broad agreement. It just pisses me off that people will just toss garbage, like masks, onto the ground wherever they happen to be.
These policies make no sense. Testing should be required for all if the intention is to prevent transmission. Did Rutgers look at the state dashboard today or all the vaccinated faculty and students racking up positive tests? The vaccines aren't preventing transmission of Omicron.
Never understood the mentality behind showing a vax or negative test within 72 hours. I know of at least 5 people, family and close friends who have tested positive after receiving 1 or all of the vax’s including the booster. So you can have a vax card and travel around freely under the guise you’re no threat to transmission but if you are not vaxed you need to prove you’re not carrying Covid. Why shouldn’t the vax’d have to show proof of a negative test if that is the standard?
Moreover, if you’ve recently had Covid and recovered you are not recommended to get vax’d for 90 days. Where is that taken into account?
Moreover, if you’ve recently had Covid and recovered you are not recommended to get vax’d for 90 days. Where is that taken into account?
Exactly. I've witnessed some of that firsthand. And I also have a kid who's an EMT who experiences it all. And I can see it's starting to really wear on him.
I think that, if we could, we would test day of an event. I don't think that we (as a country... or even globally) have that capability though. 3 days is a very long time with delta and omicron.
if they really cared about preventing spread, there should be no fans at games
They are not preventing the transmission of ANYTHING. That's what makes it so frustrating for people to whom this virus(and variants) presents minuscule to no risk whatsoever. Protect the vulnerable and free the general population.
If the intention is to prevent transmission there should be no fans allowed. That would be the safest. Next would be limited capacity. Family/Friends/big donors VIP types
But then you would complain about that.
It's also a business so they need fans and are trying their best to protect both interests. It's not so black and white.
I think that was wise. I removed my response, too.
As for the truth, the truth is that, other than people who intentionally seek to harm me or mine in some material way, I love everybody. For me, it seems the best way to go through life. 😃
Hopefully we completely pivot like Australia has. This confusion will then go away.
www.reuters.com
Australia rules out lockdowns despite Omicron surge
Australia must move past "the heavy hand of government" and authorities must stop shutting down people's lives with COVID-19 lockdowns, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Tuesday, as daily infections in the country shot up to a new pandemic high.
I haven’t seen that. Boosters are not very effective for symptomatic illness and there are a lot of studies that show that. Severe illness is another story, 2 doses still performing well in that regard.
If this measure doesn't work, and hospitalizations climb, that will be the next step for sure.
Let's hope that Omicron continues to exhibit behavior where, if infections are hard to avoid, at least serious illness is far less common. That could have a potentially beneficial impact on preventing COVID infections after a few more weeks of this insane infection rate. Kind of a best case scenario suggesting herd immunity is achieved but without putting everybody in the ICU.
No matter what people's take on all this is, the whole world could really use a break from this thing.
Agree with this wholeheartedly. Never animosity even when I disagree with folks. Sometimes that doesn't come across well on a msg board. Always wish the best for all.
That’s where I’m at. If it’s really so dangerous. I personally would probably wait for omicron to blow over anyway but now I want a refund.
The population is as free as ever. Don't like the mandate, watch the game on TV.
It is fascinating to me that nearly two years in, and it's the town "freedom" criers who are still sitting around letting others control them and complaining when other independent entities make decisions for themselves, i.e. exercise their own freedoms.
In the grand scheme, your being able to attend basketball things should be a small part of your own life, and society doesn't give af.
Too nuanced, I’m just going to round. 49% effective or less, they don’t work. 50% or more, they do.
Free as ever? Really? What planet are you from?
Independent entities? Give me break.
When you are funded or regulated by the powers that be, you are far from independent. If you think Trenton didn't have big input on this decision, you are naive.
You still have the freedom to comply and go, or not comply and not go.
A card showing your name and the date/type of your shot is something you need to keep secret?
He whispers...virus stochastically mutates as it hits bottlenecks in immunosuppressed chronically infected (but don't tell anyone)
The planet on which I don't sit around waiting for others to define my life.
YMMV.
Not true. Boosters will prevent most infections but there will still be breakthrough infections that happen. Even if you get it, the booster will ensure you recover quickly.
I know you know this, but most don't, so fyi for them, that's the working theory on how many of these variants appeared. Having said that, though, I do think it's a tall order to expect a virus even more transmissible than omicron, which is pretty close to measles infectivity. But nothing's impossible...
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...riant-got-so-many-scary-mutations-so-quickly/
why should their germs touch my stuff, as they touch everyones coming in, yes no one needs to know what kind of medical information people have
show us your papers.....
Isn't that exactly what they did in the good old days, what with paper tickets? You love the good old days. Problem solved. YW.
i think the cancelation of hot dog sales is the biggest impact healthwise, dont jab, me, but I’ll take a dog with extra kraut and onions.
And a negative tested person can catch it from a positive, untested, vaxed person in attendance.
These requirements are bogus.
Again, this is no longer true with the omicron variant spread. Refer to my previous post in this thread for a prime example, which is repeating itself all over the tri-state area and nationwide. Continuing to make the bolded statement is now akin to spreading misinformation, and may possibly encourage vaccinated/boosted people not to take the precautions that they may wish to, in order to prevent infection in the first place. This is coming from someone who vehemently opposes mask and vaccine mandates, and believes that people should be free to make whatever choices they wish to protect themselves (or not).
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