RU Indoor Athletics now has a VAX mandate
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Get the Docket app on your phone shows all your vaccinations very easy to do and verify
No I won't.
I'm the guy that votes with my feet. NJ will be nothing but sky is falling morons if they keep this up. Regular folks won't stand for it very much longer.
Is there a reason you wouldn't want to share this to get into a game? You literally announced it on a public forum.
This is not necessarily true anymore, especially with the omicron variant. Even being vaccinated/boosted, I caught a symptomatic case of COVID from an office outbreak two weeks ago. A total of seven people, all at least fully vaccinated, tested positive, most with symptomatic infections.
And as to previously made posts, a PCR test taken 72 hours prior to an event now mean basically nothing, unless one completely isolates between the time of the test and attending the event.
Let me know how you make out. I can’t see through my glasses with a mask on so pointless to attend. Fully vaxxed btw.
You need a better mask if air is leaking out and fogging up your glasses. N95, KN95 and FFP2 masks are being recommended for Omicron to prevent transmission. The floppy cloth and floppy blue medical masks do very little to protect the wearer.
Not on CE, and not busting balls, but what happened to the prediction of the "end game?"
This is just wild.
Got a booster Sunday, and said to pharmacist on way out- "see you in a couple of weeks for my next booster." 😂
While I generally agree (about cloth masks), I also think she's overstating and oversimplifying things. Most cloth masks provide an insufficient barrier to protect either the wearer or persons nearby the wearer to be worth wearing in an indoor arena situation.
The whole mask thing can be thought of in relatively simple percentage terms. One can determine the percentage of viral droplets that are prevented from crossing the barrier, and factor in the length of time and intensity of exposure to others. A gas-mask is 100% effective (for a reasonably long time, like a b-ball game). An N95 mask is somewhat less effective than that. A single-layer cloth mask that the wearer doesn't wash frequently, and is made of a thin breathable material, is gonna be well under 5% effective in an environment like a sports arena.
And obviously, no mask at all is stuck at 0% effective. It's a spectrum.
they dont, are you and others wearing those masks fitted properly like in that tweet? because I dont see many wearing them
The best description I've seen from a virologist is that using a mask to protect you from a virus is like using chain link fence to protect you from mosquitoes. They do marginally protect others from you if you are symptomatic. But even that is iffy. These used to be scientific FACTS until everyone lost their minds and things like FACTS became irrelevant.
True. It's not like people are being asked to list their STDs on the card (the scarlet letter scenario).
And don't kids often/typically have to provide proof of various vaccinations to attend school? I think we, as a society, have long accepted that vaccination status (of all kinds) is not going to be information protected by medical privacy. Not when people have the option to not participate (and therefore not reveal anything about their vaccination situation).
Thanks I wear one for visiting the nursing home. They hand them out. But those things are bad for the environment and unsanitary if used more than once. Wearing to a basketball game. I don’t think so but appreciate the suggestion.
We have not reached peak, we are past prior peaks, omicron is doubling every 2-3 days, this is Jersey, this is Rutgers, you can still go to a game, and people are complaining. smh.
Delta, then omicron, plus poor vaccination rates in some states/parts of states - we were down to about 12,000 cases/day and a few hundred deaths/day in June/July and then the 2-3x more transmissible delta hit, crushing states with low vaccination rates. The good news is omicron is likely hastening that endgame to an endemic coronavirus, as we should be at or very close to herd immunity once omicron's wave is over in a few weeks. As long as another more transmissible variant doesn't come along (and it's hard to imagine one more transmissible than omicron, which is close to measles level) or as long as omicron can't reinfect those it infects now in large numbers. This all remains to be seen, of course, as we've had a few curveballs already.
In addition to students, Rutgers has had vax mandates for employment for quite sometime. Rutgers UBHC needed to see vax status for few things, flu shot, and a negative tb test before they’d hire you. That’s kind of the irony in all of this. Those yelling about vaccines have probably been subjected themselves to mandates much of their lives.
I feel like you are being deliberately provocative. Apparently, there are “sky is falling morons” and “regular folks” and you are the latter which is apparently superior.
Maybe stop trying so hard to push the envelope on what isn’t and isn’t political.
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Wasn't directed at you by any means LOL.
It's more of a if you want to talk argue, take it over the CE board like everyone else.
Faux outrage is the name of the game here folks..
Multi-billion $$$ per year business. And literally hordes of ready-made sheep. Good luck with stopping it.
I never said that. Are you quizzing me, or making a general statement.
Most experts agree the floppy cloth masks do little to protect the wearer, especially again Omicron. I'll take the word of the Max Planck Institute on that over random people on social media because I believe in science from real scientists and not the science of the day.
Masks work, but imperfectly, as per countless lab studies and epidemiological studies, and efficacy depends on mask type, fit, and viral exposure. N95/KN95 are best, surgical are pretty good and cloth are better than nothing - but with omicron being far more transmissible, it's likely only N95/KN95/surgical (maybe) will offer good protection, still.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/49/e2110117118
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/49/e2110117118
Wasn’t directed at you. That is the widely held “sentiment” by some. We all know who they are.
Apologize for the morons part. You are correct. It was unnecessary. Broke my own promise on civility. Won't happen again. We can disagree without being disagreeable. Momentary lapse of judgement.
We obviously agree that cloth masks are mostly dumb, when better options exist. But when we form statements that ignore the variability of each situation, we're just being ideological, rather than factual.
The reality about masks of all kinds and their level of protection is that it's entirely situational and depends on the exact details.
For example, if two persons, wearing triple layer cloth masks, are having a conservation while sitting at an outdoor table, 3 feet apart, on a windless day, and one of those persons is expelling Delta virus droplets, those two cloth masks might well prevent the uninfected person from becoming infected. And even if some viral droplets are inhaled by the uninfected person, that person's infection might be far less severe because some percentage of the infectious droplets will have been avoided, and will not have been inhaled as deeply as might occur otherwise.
However, the same masks worn indoors at the RAC for a b-ball game will almost certainly not provide enough protection to be considered useful. In that specific scenario, then you're correct that they can be said to not work.
Masks provide some measure of protection. But the degree to which people are protected varies greatly depending on the exact circumstances.
IMO, oversimplifying is misleading. Is better to understand how various factors contribute to the overall measure of protection, so people can make truly informed decisions.
So do seatbelts. And vaccines. And laws. But that’s always been the point, and accepted.
Until now.
Yes, that is a problem. It is maddening to see the number of masks discarded and blowing around, especially on trails in the woods and national forests.
There are efforts to deal with the disposal issue, but more needs to be done.
We all make personal choices. Given the choice between protecting myself and family from a deadly virus and filling a landfill with a used mask, we take the former.
Before You Toss Your Mask, Here's How to Properly Dispose of PPE
Are face masks recyclable? During the pandemic, you've likely stocked up on copious amounts of PPE — so properly disposing of them is crucial.
There is also this on cleaning them:
How To Clean Your N95 Mask Or Face Covering With Covid-19 Coronavirus
Face coverings and masks that can serve as filters should be handled differently.
www.forbes.com
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