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Rutgers Baseball vs. Indiana

Top of the ninth Indiana had two on & our guy walked the bases full. Owens brings in another guy who proceeds to throw two balls. Indiana guy swings at the next pitch & hits a harmless pop fly ball to left. Too shallow for the runner tag & score.
When I was coaching I would have put the take on & have my guy make the guy throw a strike. More than decent chance they could have worked a walk & brought in an insurance run. Doubt that they even have a take sign today.
 
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Top of the ninth Indiana had two on & our guy walked the bases full. Owens brings in another guy who proceeds to throw two balls. Indiana guy swings at the next pitch & hits a harmless pop fly ball to left for the third out.
When I was coaching I would have put the take on & have my guy make the guy throw a strike. More than decent chance they could have worked a walk & brought in the leading run. Doubt that they even have a take sign today.
That’s situational. If the batter is a hitter he has the green light. Mays and Aaron were not going to give away a strike; they would have jumped all over the pitch. If it was me at bat, I would have watched the next two pitches.
 
That’s situational. If the batter is a hitter he has the green light. Mays and Aaron were not going to give away a strike; they would have jumped all over the pitch. If it was me at bat, I would have watched the next two pitches.
Situational my ass. There aren't many guys named Mays or Aaron around today. Just a different way to play the game. I've seen way worse than that over the yrs. in the Bigs. Reliever comes in & can't find the plate--walks a couple of guys on 4 pitches each. Guy comes up & swings at the first pitch that's out of the strike zone & makes an out or worse, hits into a DP. Even worse the guy takes 2 balls way out of the strike zone & swings at the third also out of the zone & makes out. Dumb baseball.
 
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Situational my ass. There aren't many guys named Mays or Aaron around today. Just a different way to play the game. I've seen way worse than that over the yrs. in the Bigs. Reliever comes in & can't find the plate--walks a couple of guys on 4 pitches each. Guy comes up & swings at the first pitch that's out of the strike zone & makes an out or worse, hits into a DP. Even worse the guy takes 2 balls way out of the strike zone & swings at the third also out of the zone & makes out. Dumb baseball.
 
Studies show that batting averages are higher on 2-0 counts than 2-1 counts . And significantly better on 3-0 counts. Taking a strike is not a bad play, but if you have a good hitter at the plate, I’d let my batter decide, he’s got the statistical advantage.
 
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Situational my ass. There aren't many guys named Mays or Aaron around today. Just a different way to play the game. I've seen way worse than that over the yrs. in the Bigs. Reliever comes in & can't find the plate--walks a couple of guys on 4 pitches each. Guy comes up & swings at the first pitch that's out of the strike zone & makes an out or worse, hits into a DP. Even worse the guy takes 2 balls way out of the strike zone & swings at the third also out of the zone & makes out. Dumb baseball.
Two schools of thought here. One is, as you say, take until he throws a strike. Another school of thought is he is likely to groove one that batter could tee off. This is where situation comes in. I don't recall where they were in the order. If it was not one of your best hitters, take until a strike. Given situation was top 9 up one, take is probably in order because picking up one insurance is really damaging to RU regardless who hitter is. There are times though where you would give your best hitter green light in that situation.
 
Top of the ninth Indiana had two on & our guy walked the bases full. Owens brings in another guy who proceeds to throw two balls. Indiana guy swings at the next pitch & hits a harmless pop fly ball to left. Too shallow for the runner tag & score.
When I was coaching I would have put the take on & have my guy make the guy throw a strike. More than decent chance they could have worked a walk & brought in an insurance run. Doubt that they even have a take sign today.
2-0 Dad, you’ve seen two pitches, I’m betting if you were hitting you’d be looking fastball out over the plate and rip the piss out of it.
 
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2-0 Dad, you’ve seen two pitches, I’m betting if you were hitting you’d be looking fastball out over the plate and rip the piss out of it.
And hit into an inning ending double play ( I believe in the RU game there was only 1 out)🤭
 
2-0 Dad, you’ve seen two pitches, I’m betting if you were hitting you’d be looking fastball out over the plate and rip the piss out of it.
I might have when I was playing, not so sure though. Got smarter for sure later on when I was coaching & managing. Saw it from a different perspective. The bases were full & he threw two balls to the first guy he faced. Never know what a guy will have coming out of the pen. Gotta make him throw a strike.
You have to have seen it in the Bigs for the last number of years. Guy comes out of the pen & can't find the plate, walks two or three guys. Next guy comes up & swings at the first pitch out of the strike zone & pops up, or worse takes two balls & swings at the next pitch out of the zone & pops up or hits into a DP. Just swingers, not a clue about how to play the game. Criminal. Another reason I can't watch it anymore.
In my day, guys in the Bigs including really good hitters would make the guy throw a strike.
 
I might have when I was playing, not so sure though. Got smarter for sure later on when I was coaching & managing. Saw it from a different perspective. The bases were full & he threw two balls to the first guy he faced. Never know what a guy will have coming out of the pen. Gotta make him throw a strike.
You have to have seen it in the Bigs for the last number of years. Guy comes out of the pen & can't find the plate, walks two or three guys. Next guy comes up & swings at the first pitch out of the strike zone & pops up, or worse takes two balls & swings at the next pitch out of the zone & pops up or hits into a DP. Just swingers, not a clue about how to play the game. Criminal. Another reason I can't watch it anymore.
In my day, guys in the Bigs including really good hitters would make the guy throw a strike.
Agree for the most part Dad.
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I’m absolutely flabbergasted at the lack of protecting the plate with two strikes and the entire approach.
As a Pirate in 70s, I feared going back to the dugout after failing to advance a runner from 2nd to 3rd with no outs.
It wasn’t the manager or coaches I was afraid of, it was Willie Stargell and Al Oliver in my face for not executing a team baseball fundamental.
 
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"Gotta make him throw a strike."

He did throw a strike and the batter (who was aready 2-4) hit it.... just not far enough.
 
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D was very shaky. A passed ball let in their first run.
Three double play balls hit and we turned zero including one where we got no one out.
Led to multiple runs.
Amazing win.
Another SWEEP!
 
Agree for the most part Dad.
Also:
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at the lack of protecting the plate with two strikes and the entire approach.
As a Pirate in 70s, I feared going back to the dugout after failing to advance a runner from 2nd to 3rd with no outs.
I wasn’t the manager or coaches I was afraid of, it was Willie Stargell and Al Oliver in my face for not executing a team baseball fundamental.
Wouldn't want to face that either Zap. Loved both those guys. Oliver was really a favorite. What a hitter & ballplayer. Should be in the Hall IMO, especially considering some of the guys who went in in recent years. Yes, & that's it, the fundamentals are out the window.
 
I haven't been to an RU baseball game before and this season is pulling me in.

From the looks of the clips you can pull your car up on the grass past the fence and tailgate and watch the get from your car?
 
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Agree for the most part Dad.
Also:
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at the lack of protecting the plate with two strikes and the entire approach.
As a Pirate in 70s, I feared going back to the dugout after failing to advance a runner from 2nd to 3rd with no outs.
It wasn’t the manager or coaches I was afraid of, it was Willie Stargell and Al Oliver in my face for not executing a team baseball fundamental.
As opposed to the current Yankees roster. Judge, yesterday post-game, was so nonchalant about the Yanks not moving runners over/getting them across the plate, I wanted to never root for him again. Basically was like "no big deal,' we'll be fine, it happens." WTF??!!
 
Agree for the most part Dad.
Also:
I’m absolutely flabbergasted at the lack of protecting the plate with two strikes and the entire approach.
As a Pirate in 70s, I feared going back to the dugout after failing to advance a runner from 2nd to 3rd with no outs.
It wasn’t the manager or coaches I was afraid of, it was Willie Stargell and Al Oliver in my face for not executing a team baseball fundamental.
So interesting.

I never heard of Al Oliver's influence in respect. Cool...
 
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