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Basketball Rutgers Basketball wins second straight, downs USC 95-85

If you’re taking bets lol…

17-14 would still put at us at ~1 percent chance of a berth. B1G tournament play really doesn’t move the needle. We’re effectively eliminated from at large consideration
If we didn't have Ace and Dylan, I'd agree. However, winning our final five games of the regular season and advancing to the B1G tourney final would get us in.

We always feel the committee is looking for a reason to keep us out. With Ace and Dylan, it's looking for a reason to put us in. That would do it.
 
The Aggies didn't have two of the top three picks in the upcoming NBA draft.

The committee is looking for a reason to include Rutgers in the big dance. Eight or nine straight wins would do it.
I'm not sure I believe the bold TBH.

It's been brutally obvious that they've completely ignored the conference tourneys last few years.

You don't think St Johns with Pitino would have been someone they wanted last year? They could have put them in and used how they looked in the BET as justification.
 
I'm not sure I believe the bold TBH.

It's been brutally obvious that they've completely ignored the conference tourneys last few years.

You don't think St Johns with Pitino would have been someone they wanted last year? They could have put them in and used how they looked in the BET as justification.
I see your point, but viewers tune in to watch top-flight players play not watch top-flight coaches coach.
 
But in that scenario we would be 13 or 14 and 11 in the Big. Most teams with 14 league wins make tournament....again im.not saying we would be for certain. I'm arguing BACs overconfident " No" as if he is the overlord of the committee.

League wins aren't considered

15 losses..only 3 schools ever at large and 17-14 heading into tourney play is rare air percentage wise. You can't make a resume in 4 days when the committee likely has their field selected on Thursday
As you correctly noted, all of the 15 loss teams that got in were in the past 10 years? Why? Consolidation of power conferences and the advent of more games in conference schedules, thus widening the gap in schedule strength between good and bad schedules.

How many teams have ever missed the tourney with 8 Q1 wins on selection sunday? Any?

Anyway this is like 1 in 500 years type stuff so it doesn't really matter lol
 
committee has to look at conference champions and play because upsets in a conference championship game can alter the playing field dramatically, especially in conference where maybe 2 or tops 3 teams get in
Of course they look at them for bid stealer purposes, but the conference tournaments are not adding to your resume if you are trying to get in as an at large team. They evaluate at large teams essentially prior to the conference tournaments and they already know who is in and who is out and rank the teams. If there are any bid stealers, then the lowest ranked at large team gets dropped out of the field.

Conference tournaments can impact seeding for teams that are already in, they don’t add to the resumes for teams that are way back on the bubble standings.
 
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Considering he has had 1 practice in the past two months, what kind of shape did you expect him to be in???
It’s not about shape, he’s just not a competent big 10 player. We were stuck with him this year so we all hoped for the best. But if we are all honest, he is not a quality big at this level of play in the Big 10. It is what it is with Ogbole, but he’s very limited as a player. Ideally, we would have had better talent ahead of him and never need to stoop to such a level to add a guy like him. But we did have to add him out of desperation and no other alternatives.
 
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Of course they look at them for bid stealer purposes, but the conference tournaments are not adding to your resume if you are trying to get in as an at large team. They evaluate at large teams essentially prior to the conference tournaments and they already know who is in and who is out and rank the teams. If there are any bid stealers, then the lowest ranked at large team gets dropped out of the field.

Conference tournaments can impact seeding for teams that are already in, they don’t add to the resumes for teams that are way back on the bubble standings.
So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong
 
So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong
If they win the Big10 tourney resume not considered and they are in. Any team wins conference tournament they are in
 
So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong
A few wins in the BTT, even losing in the championship game, will have minimal impact. The committee has already made its mind up before these things finish. See Texas A&M from 2022.
 
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So your basically saying,and I will use RU as an example, that if RU who at this ppint isnt even considered to be a bubble team, gets into Big conference tourney as the last seed, and goes on to win the tournament, that run and conference championship will have no bearing on their resume. If so your premise is 100% wrong
Once again, for an at large bid consideration, NOT THE AUTOMATIC QUALIFIER FROM WINNING THE CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT. Obviously they get seeded and get in the tourney under that scenario, Rutgers would be a BID STEALER in that case and then get seeded accordingly. If they didn’t win the Big 10 tournament, once again if they did not win the big ten tournament, if they make a run and win 3 or 4 in a row, those games are not being added to their AT LARGE BID RESUME for consideration by the committee. The committee has stated multiple times in recent years that they already have the AT LARGE BID field picked at the beginning of the conference tournaments. In other words, for AT LARGE BID PURPOSES, the teams have basically done all they can do at that point on about Thursday of the conference tournament week. Unless they change it up this year, recent history tells us that this is how they pick the at large bid field.
 
Once again, for an at large bid consideration, NOT THE AUTOMATIC QUALIFIER FROM WINNING THE CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT. Obviously they get seeded and get in the tourney under that scenario, Rutgers would be a BID STEALER in that case and then get seeded accordingly. If they didn’t win the Big 10 tournament, once again if they did not win the big ten tournament, if they make a run and win 3 or 4 in a row, those games are not being added to their AT LARGE BID RESUME for consideration by the committee. The committee has stated multiple times in recent years that they already have the AT LARGE BID field picked at the beginning of the conference tournaments. In other words, for AT LARGE BID PURPOSES, the teams have basically done all they can do at that point on about Thursday of the conference tournament week. Unless they change it up this year, recent history tells us that this is how they pick the at large bid field.
Let me ask you a question about a hypothetical situation.
Its been stated by many the SEC should get 11 to 13 teams in. Now lets assume the last so called SEC at large bid team gets beat in the first round of their tournament and another team not pre picked as an at large team goes on a year end run and finishes 2nd in their conference and ends up with a slightly better record and stats than SEC at large bid team first round loser.
Your premise is team that made run didnt improve tbeir resume to be considered for an at large bid. If so I disagree.
 
Let me ask you a question about a hypothetical situation.
Its been stated by many the SEC should get 11 to 13 teams in. Now lets assume the last so called SEC at large bid team gets beat in the first round of their tournament and another team not pre picked as an at large team goes on a year end run and finishes 2nd in their conference and ends up with a slightly better record and stats than SEC at large bid team first round loser.
Your premise is team that made run didnt improve tbeir resume to be considered for an at large bid. If so I disagree.
Conference record isn't looked at. Oklahoma is 4-10 in the sec and in like 100% of the brackets right now and 6-12 will still get them in
 
What people are saying, basically, is that the committee is too ****ing lazy to consider the results of all the games played because it would be more work. There is evidence for this view.

People give the committee too much credit. They are just alot of Ads and commissioners and half of them from small conferences
 
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What people are saying, basically, is that the committee is too ****ing lazy to consider the results of all the games played because it would be more work. There is evidence for this view.
That's my sense, yes
 
People give the committee too much credit. They are just alot of Ads and commissioners and half of them from small conferences

NCAA Tournament Selection Committee

The 2024-2025 Selection Committee (the year the term is up is in parenthesis):
BUBBA CUNNINGHAM (2025) – North Carolina Athletic Director (Chairperson)
MARK COYLE (2026) – Minnesota Athletic Director
GREG BYRNE (2026) – Alabama Athletic Director
KEITH GILL (2026) – Sun Belt Commissioner (Vice-Chairperson)
LEE REED (2026) – Georgetown Athletic Director
MARTIN NEWTON (2027) – Samford Athletic Director
TOM WISTRCILL (2027) – Big Sky Commissioner
ARTHUR JOHNSON (2028) – Temple Athletic Director
IRMA GARCIA (2029) – Manhattan Athletic Director
STU JACKSON (2029) – West Coast Conference Commissioner
ZACK LASSITER (2029) – Abilene Christian Athletic Director
CHAD WEIBERG (2029) – Oklahoma State Athletic Director
 
I'm going to keep doing everyone a SOLID. I didn't watch the last 2 games & 2 DUBS. Actually forgot about yesterday's game. I think I may be the team JINX. For the benefit of the program I will tape the next game and watch after over
 
I'm going to keep doing everyone a SOLID. I didn't watch the last 2 games & 2 DUBS. Actually forgot about yesterday's game. I think I may be the team JINX. For the benefit of the program I will tape the next game and watch after over
Good lookin’ out for everyone, not all heroes wear capes
 

NCAA Tournament Selection Committee

The 2024-2025 Selection Committee (the year the term is up is in parenthesis):
BUBBA CUNNINGHAM (2025) – North Carolina Athletic Director (Chairperson)
MARK COYLE (2026) – Minnesota Athletic Director
GREG BYRNE (2026) – Alabama Athletic Director
KEITH GILL (2026) – Sun Belt Commissioner (Vice-Chairperson)
LEE REED (2026) – Georgetown Athletic Director
MARTIN NEWTON (2027) – Samford Athletic Director
TOM WISTRCILL (2027) – Big Sky Commissioner
ARTHUR JOHNSON (2028) – Temple Athletic Director
IRMA GARCIA (2029) – Manhattan Athletic Director
STU JACKSON (2029) – West Coast Conference Commissioner
ZACK LASSITER (2029) – Abilene Christian Athletic Director
CHAD WEIBERG (2029) – Oklahoma State Athletic Director
Yeh I don't really see any RU "allies" on that list even if we did go on that miracle run undefeated through end of regular season and only lose in BTT finals. Only hope then would be the TV networks putting pressure to showcase Harper and Ace.
 
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