Thankfully, no one is choosing between rutgers and osu, so you don't have to worry your blessed heart.
Rutgers is Rye Playland and OSU is Disneyworld
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Thankfully, no one is choosing between rutgers and osu, so you don't have to worry your blessed heart.
A factor of 12.5? assuming an average donation of $1,000 you expect someone to increase it to $12,500 over 2-3 years????? That's an additional $3-4,000 a year! Come back to earth Al. Maybe in your income bracket but that's too much of a nut for Joe Average. People are just not going to do that here or most other places.
thats what the ask is. like with anything else. we just have to do the best we can and see what the results are. But we have to do something.
Hahaha, that was the second time I thought about. And I was having a great time! And then... Without getting into too many details, Disney is ironically one of my companies biggest clients now. I guess we kissed and made-up, which may be breaking some sort of ummm, agreement. Thanks for the bringing that memory up, lol...
Really hope the mods delete this thread. Dont need this when signing day is around the corner.
I also dont understand why rutgersal has an agenda against ash. This issue has been with rutgers since the beginning. Yet he posts all positive stuff when flood was around.
Its like the star ledger hacked into his account.
I also dont understand why rutgersal has an agenda against ash. This issue has been with rutgers since the beginning. Yet he posts all positive stuff when flood was around.
Its like the star ledger hacked into his account.
SO.... the point of the thread was to berate anonymous people into donating more?
I thought this was one of the best thought out, best written posts to put in perspective what challenge is ahead. Some of the criticism is simply because Al is an easy target for the bullies. Some of it is because there is insufficient license to understand that no one is calling for Rutgers to challenge OSU, but to use them as a model of how one can do more than thought possible.
No agenda vs. Ash. I hope he succeeds and will do what I can to help him succeed in that effort. I hope you will as well.
Sadly, this is incorrect, which is why we have to re-double our efforts to help our coaches be more competitive on the recruiting trail.
I cant be the only one wondering if you really used your spring break to go to Disney? Never mind, we know the answer.
Here's the deal. The time that once would have been there to be on a level playing field with any of the top powers is long gone. Does anyone think that they are done with their facilities?
Here's another analogy: Rutgers is the tortoise and they are the hare! Forget the fairy tale ending, they will not be taking a nap while we plod along.
Here's another analogy: Rutgers is the tortoise and they are the hare! Forget the fairy tale ending, they will not be taking a nap while we plod along.
the fundamentals are still in place to be a top power down the line. Location, Location, Location. we build it, and we will have the largest stage of them all. all we need is for our stakeholders to care do do their part.
Exactly. It is going to be near impossible for us to ever catch up facilities wise with a Michigan, Penn State, OSU, Nebraska, etc. Those programs have an almost endless supply of funds and they will continue to expand and improve their facilities. We can have great facilities, but they will never be the equal to some of the top programs in our conference and the other top P5 programs.
The immediate question is can we raise $100 million? Hobbs asked for $500 per alumni which is not going to happen. Let's assume we get 1/3 of the money from a handful of really big donors, can we raise the rest thru the average joe alum. If 20% of the 200,000 donate then we need $1,667 per alum. I think it's hopeful but still a big stretch.
The big question I have is if someone decides to pay over 5 years or so, will the University borrow against those promises to pay. I would hope so.
The big question I have is if someone decides to pay over 5 years or so, will the University borrow against those promises to pay. I would hope so.
Somber RutgersAl is the worst thing to ever happen to the Internet.
And were people supposed to know WTF Rye Playland is, or were you doing a "What's a Rutger" type thing?
And were people supposed to know WTF Rye Playland is, or were you doing a "What's a Rutger" type thing?
Another "LOOK AT ME" post by AL is very surprising!!
I have heard great things about you as a person from some people that know you but you continue to do damage to Rutgers Athletics and the brand by your posting style. POsting and trolling on other teams sites etc...You may need to step away for awhile
I have heard great things about you as a person from some people that know you but you continue to do damage to Rutgers Athletics and the brand by your posting style. POsting and trolling on other teams sites etc...You may need to step away for awhile
No damage is incurred by being honest about where we are, and where we need to be. We're nowhere near where we need to be and that won't be solved by denying existence of a problem or ignoring it.
For too long we have blamed Jersey recruits for leaving the state when we should have been asking the question "How can we help Rutgers so that Jersey recruits will be more inclined to stay".
Average fans are doing enough, you are dead wrong about that. Could people do more, maybe, but you are not in reality world if you think average fans who already donate are going to come up with 400 million dollars more.
In 2012-2014, Athletics donations were $4.5 Million, 2015, they were $14.7 million. Our fans are responding and giving more. (some of it is forced it we want to park at football games, or have decent seats, but most of us are happy to donate as much as we can.)
It is not enough. Current donors will never be able to come up with all that money. Only 9000 or so people donated to the athletic department during the Rutgers, billion dollar campaign. In the campaign, there were several donations over a millions dollars, one over 40 million (anonymous)
So Sorry, if you are counting on current fans to do more to make up the difference, it isn't happening. Yes, it does sound like you are lecturing the wrong crowd when you lecture to this board. Many on here have supported Athletics for decades, and most others already donate.
We need more donors and some big money donors. They are out there. Rutgers has to prove to them they are committed, and hopefully we get some on board. (the $25 mill tax incentives were a good start.)
Geez Al. You seem like a good guy but you can't see anything past the obvious and can only reason in black and white.
Al means well, but I agree…he's talking and making accusations toward the wrong people, we are the last people that need to be solicited by him to give more,
Hobbs message did a fine job, Al's message is highly annoying and rude.
Hobbs message did a fine job, Al's message is highly annoying and rude.
AL, Who is all of us? There are approximately 10000 people who donate to Rutgers athletics. $4.5 in 2012, $15.7 mill in 2015. "us" is already giving, and reaching as deep as we can. Do the math, the regular fan with a normal wage is not going to give 12.5 times what he does now. This is absurd to think so.
Yes, despite the increase in athletic giving which has more than tripled in the last 3 years, we can always give more, but AL, you are talking about $400 million.
Most of the fans who donated $15.7 Last year can not increase enough to get anywhere near 400 million.
Sorry, you are saying there is no help(big donors) on the way, well, there better be, because unless we get more donors and some big donors, $400 million is too tall a mountain for "us."
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Yes, despite the increase in athletic giving which has more than tripled in the last 3 years, we can always give more, but AL, you are talking about $400 million.
Most of the fans who donated $15.7 Last year can not increase enough to get anywhere near 400 million.
Sorry, you are saying there is no help(big donors) on the way, well, there better be, because unless we get more donors and some big donors, $400 million is too tall a mountain for "us."
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I have not denied nor do many of the people I associate deny that there have been issues within the athletic program and the University as a whole. I live in reality. I have played sports at a high level, have been to many of our peer Universities throughout the country, so I know how our facilities stack up. I also do not come on here and pretend that our University is "Harvard during the week and USC on the weekend" sound familiar????
At the end of the day with the info in this thread it's easy to conclude that there are 5-7,000 season ticket holders that don't donate above their ticket value. That group needs to step up or it will be forced. That group is gonna be milked for $15 million or so or this plan isn't going any where. A couple hundred more per year for 5 years. Mark my word it's coming.
You're absolutely right. There will be some ticket holders who will be forced out. It will be like OSU where people who don't want to/are unable to) donate, setup their tailgate, and instead of of going into the stadium, watch the game on their TV, which is hooked up to a generator.
Forget $400M. Lets stick to $100M, because that's the official target.
For 2015, our average giving was:
15.7M/10,000=1,570 average donation
Now for this project if we take 100M/10,000 donors=10K per donor
So now if we assume 5 years:
10K/5 years =$2K per year
I sense that this is a critical point in our athletics history, so I intend to step up, and hope others will do the same. If people can't, or are unable to, I understand. You can't give more than your best. If people give their best, you can't ask for anything more.
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