BB Recruiting Rutgers lands Merrimack transfer G Jordan Derkack
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These are mostly big guards and some are like wings. So 3 guards sets, positionless basketball, is what we will be looking at. And it looks like Pike wants to play uptempo on O and D, which requires maximal effort and a big rotation from the guards.
that you are unceasingly negative is more than accurate. its basically well-established fact at this point. you prove it daily.
Jones would be the exact 3 and D specialist I wanted
Just need that big. Maybe Ron Harper Senior will be willing to pick up the NIL tab to bring Cliff back lol.
Anybody else amused that Derkack will have played at Merrimack and the RAC?
I am sensing a pattern.
I am sensing a pattern.
If that is the actually number 3/7 is 42.9%. You can't take any stock in HS reporting other than made FT,FG,3pt FG and games. Even those are sketchy.
I think its tricky to come to definitive conclusions without a deeper dive into the shooting data. For instance what is the breakdown for 3's for Jordan and Tyson (i.e. off the dribble, open, in the corner etc). Both will have less usage in terms of not having the ball in their hands as much as previous teams. How they are able to move without the ball, find and hit open shots will likely increase in prominence. Hopefully Pike will also be able to use their ability to create, drive and dish to the team's advantage as well.
ChatGPT is also sketchy, which is why I made a point to cite the source. Having said that, Ace has a rep as a shooter.
I hate cherry picking stats. Yes, he had 5 games that brought down his average. He also had three games if you remove, he shot between 21 and 22% from 3. He's not a shooter, hopefully it improves and he is a step in the right direction that he doesn't settle for mid range.
So they are his clients and he is paid by the family. Of course he would say nice things. It does seem like dercack is a solid pickup and a good get here
Especially if he is willing to play his role. Pike said it, he wants guys excited by the opportunity to win. Guys like Derkack, Martini, and probably Acuff too, all seem to want to win more than showcase themselves, and are willing to play a role.
Everyone is concerned that Pike might not be building the team the way they want, or have a plan. but I think we are seeing that Pike does have a plan for the construction of the team...and a big part of that is the mental makeup of the players, and being able to have a deep bench to play the tempo he wants.
Is this Rutgers first scholarship basketball player from woodbridge?
Would seem hard to believe .
Would seem hard to believe .
then put me on ignore.
Don't say the next positive thing I say will be my 1st.
Read this thread
Read the Martini thread
Read most post game threads
What is the 160 pool exactly? I assume it's the pool of wanted or available minutes for some pool of players and you are saying there are not enough to go around. What defines it?
center 40 minutes
everyone else 160
Does the lifeguard allow Ace to swim in the CENTER pool for a few minutes to allow more room in the other pool for others
Gotcha, so it's the total minutes available in positions 1-4. Yes, we are very very deep 1-4. It's a good problem to have. I think Pike is (successfully) making a point of bringing in players OK with playing roles. And it fits the style of play he said he wants. It looks like (I hope) Pike has a plan and he's not just randomly stacking up players.
The concern isn't necessarily the players accepting the prescribed role - going from #1 option to a bench player.
It's how well the players themselves fill the new role they will be asked to fill.
We still don't appear to have anyone we are reasonably sure can be on the opposite side of the floor from Ace/Dylan and knock down a semi-open 3 if the defense collapses on them.
One of Ace or Dylan will hopefully be on the floor the entire game to run the offense through most possessions.
It's similar to the Paul Mulcahy situation.
If he stayed last year, it was fairly evident he would be moved off ball (Noah had already been brought in to presumably start).
Pauls value to Rutgers was much less off ball than his prior role of on ball offense initiator because his skill set didn't really fit the new off ball role.
It's how well the players themselves fill the new role they will be asked to fill.
We still don't appear to have anyone we are reasonably sure can be on the opposite side of the floor from Ace/Dylan and knock down a semi-open 3 if the defense collapses on them.
One of Ace or Dylan will hopefully be on the floor the entire game to run the offense through most possessions.
It's similar to the Paul Mulcahy situation.
If he stayed last year, it was fairly evident he would be moved off ball (Noah had already been brought in to presumably start).
Pauls value to Rutgers was much less off ball than his prior role of on ball offense initiator because his skill set didn't really fit the new off ball role.
We have Martini and it's clear we are recruiting another 3 and D guy (hopefully Jones). It also seems clear that Pike wants to press and run, and play waves of high energy players that can all rebound, press, D, and score in transition. And I also think we will be playing team rebounding and getting a lot of second chance points the way we used to.
I think it is CRYSTAL CLEAR he expects defense to continue to be a strong/elite.
I am thinking the blueprint is something like
Top 10 defense
40-60th on offense
My questions/concerns it is really hard (close to impossible) to be a good offensive team without shooting an effective FG% over 50%. ON PAPER we look like the same brick laying team from the perimeter
I am thinking the blueprint is something like
Top 10 defense
40-60th on offense
My questions/concerns it is really hard (close to impossible) to be a good offensive team without shooting an effective FG% over 50%. ON PAPER we look like the same brick laying team from the perimeter
You have been saying this about Harper for a while now. If you watch the games, you can see that Harper will absolutely be one of our primary ballhandlers. He is DEADLY on high PnR and getting downhill. You don't want him parked in the corner.
Does that mean he will play "PG" his entire 30 minutes on the floor? No. But he will be one of the primary guys handling the ball.
Absolutely agree ! He is one of the smartest players to come out of HS ever! His understanding of floor spacing and player movement is a decade past where he should be which makes so impressive. He needs to be the primary ball handler as much as possible.
We need a Cam like player to be next too him not Jwill. Someone who can help handle the ball but is more of an off the ball shooter to create space.
Either way Dylan must have the ball to make decisions.
I think Harper, Bailey, and Acuff are capable of shooting higher than that. Acuff shot +35% the two years he wasn't the main offensive option.
If I worked for a sports book and I had to put a number for that trio I'd put the over/under at 31% for the limited information i have.
Obviously everyone's different.......there are a few offsets here....
1. added % from removing "volume shots" and having a greater % of shots open looks
2. lower % from playing harder on D in the 15-40 seconds before the 3 attempt goes up
3. added % from playing less minutes
We are all guessing, taking wild stabs at limited information we have.............
Ace takes too many bad 3s in the games I have seen. Will he buy in to what Pike says and eliminate ridiculous NBA 3 attempts (shots that NBA scouts want to see him make)?
Dylan...I am not sure if he is really a good 3 point shooter. Maybe he deferred in HS games or realized he was best penetrating, but his amount of 3 point makes were not high.
Also think Dylan and Ace are going to be playing basketball for the 1st time in their lives playing real hard on the defensive end. That makes a difference to most and is partly why RU 3 pt FG% is low and a huge reason (not the biggest) why freshman under Pike have been so bad from 3.
Acuff...I can only go by the data we have.
When it comes to 3 pt shooting, Acuff is the one I'm least worried about.
I don’t disagree about Jwill but not having Dylan as your primary decision maker is like taking Molina and asking him to be heads groundskeeper.
Lots of decisions for Pike to make.
Don Bosco's head coach had him at head groundskeeper....and he and the team excelled.
I think you are underestimating what would be on his plate as a freshman PG in the B1G. No one wants to hear me talk about the freshman wall. No one wants to hear about what the demands of defense does to offense. Definitely no one wants to hear the demands of being a PG and what that does.
I have alwats thought putting relentless pressure on a point guard was like each possession putting money in a piggy bank. Eventually when the game matters the physical and mental fatigue takes a toll.
Of course you will take the under. It says right here in this thread that you are always taking the negative outlook. I read it on the internet so I know it must be true.
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Re: who will be the PG - we are moving towards an era of positionless basketball IMO. All playmakers should get touches, although who brings it up against pressure may be limited to certain guys. Also, the ball will find its way to certain guys late in the shot clock to create. IMO Dylan will get plenty of opportunities to initiate the offense. We did not recruit a 5* top 3 recruit that plays guard, if he is not a good outside shooter, to primarily play off the ball as an outlet option.
That wouldn't mean JWill made a mistake by staying, unless he is more motivated by a "gotta get mine" attitude than a "what's best for the team". I don't think that's JWill.
