Doesn't this only prove that? Not like teams make their big games homecoming or games against better team
Rutgers will be Penn State Homecoming...
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LOL!!! Scarlet_Scourge calls RU31trap out on being a fraudulent RU fan, something that he still denies, and RU31trap goes ahead and "Likes" the post. What an idiot !!!
So what!! Who cares if I cleverly "liked" Scourge's post?? You seem to be fixated with who I "Like" and whether I'm a PSU fan? Before getting banned I gave you a stiff reprimand about your incessant obsession with me, PSU and especially Jerry Sandusky........
clearly, other schools don't follow the same rule of thumb, but PSU homecoming games are always noon kick-off.
Not true. They're usually at noon, but not always. The 43-40 OT win against Michigan was the HC game in 2013, and that kicked at 5 p.m.
I'll be there with my red and white Clark Harris Jersey cheering on the Scarlet Knights. Go Knights!!
The Rutgers game on Oct 28 will be the HC game for Michigan this coming season. 2018 will be Maryland and 2019 will be Iowa.
RU31trap - LOL on the cleverly liking Scourge's post, I doubt that anything you have ever done in your life can be labeled "clever". Certainly not the way you recently asked for advice on this board on a SUV purchase and then didn't take it. Pity on the RU fans who wasted their time trying to advise you.
BTW, I am not obsessed with Sandusky. Your mere mentioning of Sandusky shows how you miss the whole point of the scandal. He is not the story here. I am obsessed with the PSU cult, the ones that covered up JS' crimes, still defend JoePa, and, most scary of all, still support a culture that puts football above all else. I suggest that you see the movie Spotlight, which covers the sexual abuse scandal at the Boston Archdiocese. The true revelation was provided by the Boston Globe's brilliant editor, Marty Baron, who realized that the story was not the priests who committed the heinous acts, but rather how they were allowed to go on by the refusal of the Archdiocese to blow the whistle on the abusers. Perhaps this is too subtle of a point for you to ever understand.
GSGS: I see your point and feel your frustration. The overwhelming percentage of the RU fanbase shares your views on this issue. In my personal opinion there should have been far more serious consequences for PSU if there was a coverup at an institutional level. But the "if" in my sentence is what PSU successfully argued to the NCAA. The NCAA knew that they would have been rolling the dice if they went after the death penalty. I would be willing to bet that Penn State university would have argued this case all the way up to the Supreme Court and probably would have won. Remember GSGS the root to all evil is money and PSU generated lots of it for themselves and college football. Since the real hard evidence pointed to Jerry Sandusky, the AD and another high level Administrator circumstantial evidence took a backseat. I saw and read Joe Paterno's email to the AD about serious concerns regarding Sandusky behavior. However, there was indisputable hard evidence that the AD and the Departmental Administrator never notified the Authorities, Board President or University President. This was PSU's saving grace because they argued there was no institutional coverup, it was about a handful of individuals not divulging information to the authorities and the
NCAA rolled over.
Moving on; punishment was administered, maybe not to our liking but punishment was clearly administered. Now the country, sports personalities and the B10 Conference all have moved on. End result, they came close to winning a Rose Bowl and next year the wise guys give them a shot at going undefeated. Our former coach helped a student write a paper and the NCAA is still busting our balls.
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my bad. however, that was a more high profile game (surprised that was homecoming, honestly) in mid Oct.
cool man. saw a ton of fans 2 years ago at the bars Friday night and in the RV lots on Saturday. enjoy
still haven't made it to Rutgers yet.....weddings have derailed me.
This was before the insurance documents were released showing the University has been paying hush money to victims since 1976. The NCAA was much more lame than the PSU case was good.
You mean where after Paterno and the University were made aware of the predatory behavior Paterno laid out his terms of the Sandusky retirement package to include access to the program?
And we have written evidence that these administrators did not report based on Paterno's directive. Curley, Schultz, Spanier were Paterno creatures that only held their positions with his consent.
This an obscene and blasphemous use of the term "grace"
How can anyone say this with any certainty without hearing the testimony of Curley, Schultz, Spanier under oath? We're still waiting.
They sure did. I don't think that makes the case that PSU or the Cult were in the right however. Just lucky to be facing a feckless organization.
Yes, and injustice is still being perpetuated on the victims as long as PSU does not allow them to publicly comment on their cases by withdrawing the gag orders.
The new Cult lie - only RU and Pitt fans care. Anybody looking at other social media can see not everyone, particularly those whose income is not determined by the sports hype machine, has forgotten.
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Please stop using OUR when talking about Rutgers, it is really offensive to all Rutgers fans. You don't see the other Penn State fans or fans from any other school doing that doing that.
RU31trap said:
To clarify: Paterno didn't lay out terms of Sandusky's retirement package. Sandusky submitted a list of requests, some of which were OK'd, some of which were not. His emeritus status was granted by Spanier/Erickson.
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What are you talking about? Do you just make things up as you go? The only thing in the insurance was an uncorroborated claim of a man who said he was abused. The same man who police had talked to and found his story not to be credible.
Actually Paterno was the one who did not want to give him access. It was Rodney Erickson who put the package together and granted him access to the facilities.
No there is not. There is an e-mail implying they should talk to Sandusky first. Nothing in it said that they should never report it. It doesn't layout next step. It just said they should talk to him first.
How is that an injustice? Pretty typical of settlements. No one forced them to settle or agree to that clause. They chose to agree to it.
Thank you for the clarification guys. I knew I read that Paterno reported Sandusky to the AD and had nothing to do with giving him access. But to be honest I wasn't 100% certain.
My basic reply to those Penn St posters replies in this thread, that includes PSU Trap,:
the facts are Penn St was paying out for sex abuse claims since the 70s and it can be safely assumed all the leadership from President to the HC of PSU knew about those payments.
Also the investigation of the future Coach Emeritus in 1998 would have been discussed when the football program's Coach Emeritus was caught in the act and that's one of the reasons it went no further than the Penn St leadership that were informed and they decided covering it up would be better then taking a chance that the public would find out what was going on since the 70 and Penn St didn't do anything to stop the sex abuse from happening .
the facts are Penn St was paying out for sex abuse claims since the 70s and it can be safely assumed all the leadership from President to the HC of PSU knew about those payments.
Also the investigation of the future Coach Emeritus in 1998 would have been discussed when the football program's Coach Emeritus was caught in the act and that's one of the reasons it went no further than the Penn St leadership that were informed and they decided covering it up would be better then taking a chance that the public would find out what was going on since the 70 and Penn St didn't do anything to stop the sex abuse from happening .
You are completely clueless on the facts of this case. They have not been making payments since 70's. That is not remotely true. The truth is they settled with victims that date back to the 70's but not been making payments since then. Do you realize the 1998 case was investigated by the police and that the DA decided not to pursue charges? You should at least have basic understanding of what happened before passing judgement. You are just making yourself look ignorant.
No, it showed there were a lot more reports, and settlements, for a lot longer period of time, than previously know or currently admitted by the Cult.
Let's settle the question, have PSU release the amounts and dates of all payments made to settle Sandusky rapes.
Sorry we actually are going back to 1971.
I have full faith in State College or Pennsylvania law enforcement to not mess that up.
Paterno personally edited the agreement. See link for Paterno's hand written note OK-ing giving him an office. Erickson was doing what he was told to do by Paterno.
And shockingly enough those goobers were smart enough not to commit the next step of the conspiracy to writing and go off-line.
Yes, by powerful organizations with something to hide.
What we have come to expect from the Cult and PSU "Here's the money kids - just don't tell anybody!"
Madhat: Just curious, is their tangible proof to substantiate what you say? If yes, why didn't the Attorney General get more indictments by the grand jury? I'm not an expert on the case, but if what you say is true, why wasn't Curley, Schultz, Spanier and Paterno arrested and why didn't the NCAA shut the football program down for at least 10 years? Something doesn't add up here and that usually means someone is not telling the truth about this case. This means one of two things: Either you're fabricating evidence and embellishing untruths which makes you a BS artist or the Pennsylvania Attorney General, Prosecutors and NCAA are incompetent and maybe partially retarded. Which is it?
Please :pray: Stop it. I'm a Rutger's fan first and foremost but I do root for PS in bowl games. When they play against each other I'm partial to Rutgers. Why is this a big deal? Why the hate towards them? Paterno made a big push in getting us into the B10 right?
Here is what you said: This was before the insurance documents were released showing the University has been paying hush money to victims since 1976.
That is not correct. They have not paying since 1976. Some of the settlements made post 2011 did cover victims from 70s. What was revealed in insurance documents was a guy who claimed he told Paterno. However the investigators did not find him credible. His story also did not fit Sandusky's pattern of grooming.
He was fine with giving him an office which was not even in the football building and a telephone. He did not want to allow him to bring Second Mile children into the facility. Did you miss that note on the letter? Erickson and the administration overruled him.
No doubt that the administration was incompetent and negligent in their handling. They could have prevented it and should have follow basics safeguards. There are some reports however that they did report it to the Second Mile.
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Being a both a Penn State and a Rutgers fan makes no sense whatsoever.
Rutgers and Penn State have been playing each other on a regular basis since 1978. They were huge rivals in MBB in the 1980's.
They played each other in football until the mid 1990's and still played each other in other sports this entire time.
Not to mention all then children being brutally raped, cover ups and the fall out of that.
So when did you have time to become a fan of both?
They are now in the same conference and in the same division.
Being a fan of both is like being a Yankees\Red Sox fan or a Giants/Eagles fan or a Michigan/OSU fan. It just doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
Plus add to that all of the other posts and threads you made bashing Rutgers, trying to spread rumors about why people were fired, all the while praising Penn State every chance you get and denying that you ever said you were a long time Penn State fan until someone quoted your old posts and any person with any sense whatsoever will call BS on your claim.
Facts matter.
Rutgers and Penn State have been playing each other on a regular basis since 1978. They were huge rivals in MBB in the 1980's.
They played each other in football until the mid 1990's and still played each other in other sports this entire time.
Not to mention all then children being brutally raped, cover ups and the fall out of that.
So when did you have time to become a fan of both?
They are now in the same conference and in the same division.
Being a fan of both is like being a Yankees\Red Sox fan or a Giants/Eagles fan or a Michigan/OSU fan. It just doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
Plus add to that all of the other posts and threads you made bashing Rutgers, trying to spread rumors about why people were fired, all the while praising Penn State every chance you get and denying that you ever said you were a long time Penn State fan until someone quoted your old posts and any person with any sense whatsoever will call BS on your claim.
Facts matter.
I know a lot of Rutgers fans hate Penn State, which is fine, but you need to slow down mentioning this "rivalry" in the same breath as the others you listed.
Except it's not as absurd. For one, the athletics teams and universities don't have a rivalry as intense (at all?) as those you listed. People might have also attended both schools, or have friends and family that did. Do I think it's a little odd for someone to root for both football programs, especially now that they're in the same division? Sure. But you overstated it just a bit by mentioning some of the most classic rivalries.
I've been going to Rutgers games since the early 80's always enjoyed the games. Was season ticket holder for several years. I also enjoyed watching PS especially the 1982 NC game when PSU beat Georgia and their indestructible running back Herschel Walker. Then they play the most powerful, talented team in the country Jimmy Johnson's Miami Hurricanes and win. I don't know what the big deal is but some here get really upset.
I agree with you that is an overstatement.. from your side of things.
Maybe Penn State fans can allow themselves to root for Rutgers too but never the other way around, which is like the whole point. Just like Rutgers fans would never root for Notre Dame, even if we rarely ever play them. It is just something you never do. If you are a true Rutgers fans you understand this, if you are an outsider this may not make any sense. Which is the whole point.
Well, the issue here is you're dealing with the 1% of a team's fan base that cares so much they discuss every little detail about a program with strangers on a message board (and no one should be insulted by that, as I fit that description also).
In real life, I'd imagine there are many Rutgers alums/fans like yourself, probably a little older, who grew up in New Jersey and followed Penn State football from afar, whether because Rutgers was so bad for so long, or they liked Paterno, or just wanted to see a Northeast team succeed, whatever.
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Sealed documents make knowing the whole story hard, but Penn St had been paying out sex abuse claims since the 70s.
Most cult members ( which I include PSUTrap as one) refuse to admit the facts surrounding the cover-up or that Paterno knew.
Just the fact that Penn St has been paying out for years with nondisclosure clauses to keep everything quite makes my post more plausible then the BS you claim it is.
A prosecutor said there wasn't enough evidence to bring Paterno to trial, that isn't saying he was innocent, just that there wasn't enough evidence to warrant bring him to trial with a good chance to convict.
Most of what you claimed happened, but not the scenarios that you presented to spin the facts your way.
Penn State settlements covered 1971 Sandusky abuse claim/The Associated Press
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...tlements-jerry-sandusky-joe-paterno/84125254/
Retired University Park Detective Ronald Schreffler believed he had enough evidence in 1998 to charge then-Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky with something after the man admitted to a boy's mother to showering naked with her son.
"At the very minimum, there was enough evidence for some charges, like corruption of minors," Mr. Schreffler said on Wednesday, the day after Mr. Sandusky chose to waive his preliminary hearing on 52 counts that accuse him of molesting 10 boys over the last several years.
http://www.post-gazette.com/home/20...8-Sandusky-investigation/stories/201112180175
1>But it was the Penn State police department, which is overseen by a top university administrator, that would lead a more comprehensive criminal investigation.<
2>Schreffler testified that his boss, then-campus police chief Thomas Harmon, told him to close his investigation, and the county prosecutor decided there would be no charges, for reasons that remain unknown today. Harmon served as an administrator under Gary Schultz, then Penn State’s senior vice president for finance and business.<
3>Schultz has been charged in relation to a 2002 sexual abuse complaint against Sandusky.<
4> Tim Curley – the other official now charged in the 2002 allegation. <
5>Still, Amendola said he believes university officials knew about the 1998 complaint, and that they agreed there was nothing to it. “The Penn State police department doesn’t investigate something of that magnitude involving a Penn State, high-profile coach, who was still coaching, and not contact Penn State officials,” he said.<
https://newsone.com/2000049/sandusky-showered-naked-with-children-penn-state/
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