Rutgers wrestling: Four thoughts ahead of Big Ten Championships, NCAA Championships
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""I want that national title before I’m done, and I promise I’m gonna get it."" Another obligatory statement? I'd like to think he could do it, but it's a high hill to climb.
I realized so many of our guys say this and it literally never happens.. and all the killers rarely talk bout winning… Angelo, Barr, Mesenbrink, in all their interviews they just talk bout is getting better and improving and w.e happens happens.
Turley said much the same before or early in the season. There's nothing wrong with having goals, and even better yet, when they have the drive to accomplish them. However, they look silly when they just say it and don't follow up with the effort and commitment required. I don't know if any of Peterson, Shawver, or Turley are capable of winning a NC, but I'm pretty sure it won't happen if they have periods of slacking off. We all know the level of seriousness and commitment required to win at that level, and relatively few dedicate themselves to that degree. I've watched Bassett's daily routine with amazement and wondered how many could keep up that level of commitment.
I think Peterson has the best shot as he’s beaten Ramos before so he’s capable of locking in but struggles to do it consistently.. gotta see how b10 goes.. Turley.. 0% the top 3 in his class are way too strong… Shawver, thing is all year he’s been promising bout being a NC but taken a step back… the problem with this kinda goal is it puts a lot of unnecessary pressure on urself.. and when you do take a Loss it can cause a big confidence loss….
I like how when Gable Stevenson was asked what his goals are this year.. he just says “Dominate and putting on a show”. No mention of needing to win a NC or anything….
Basset will be special in college.. you answered it yourself there will be almost none that will be able to compete with his commitment.. he will be competing against the version of himself From yesterday.
Exciting times for Iowa fans.. w Basset + Angelo and the young core they got.. it won’t shock me to see them give PSU a run for their money in the next few years…
"I want to dominate guys" - Carter Starocci reveals main reason behind his fifth-year return
"Search and Destroy"- Carter Starocci shares strong-worded message as he competes in fifth and Final NCAA Championships
Carter Starocci expressed his thoughts as he looks determined to win his fifth straight NCAA title with Penn State.
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He doesn’t say his main reason to return is 5th NC… it’s to dominate guys… same killer mindset as Gable.. that’s scary lol
I was thinking his Twitter activity starts with Natty Daddy (which he apparently has been threatened with legal action by Anheuser Busch over the use of.)"I want to dominate guys" - Carter Starocci reveals main reason behind his fifth-year return
"Search and Destroy"- Carter Starocci shares strong-worded message as he competes in fifth and Final NCAA Championships
Carter Starocci expressed his thoughts as he looks determined to win his fifth straight NCAA title with Penn State.
He doesn’t say his main reason to return is 5th NC… it’s to dominate guys… same killer mindset as Gable.. that’s scary lol
Some of you guys are so literal that’s it’s wild. Personally I think Rutgers should recruit guys who say “my goal is to not be a national champion.”
On what planet is it bad for guys who have been in the top 1% of wrestlers they’ve encountered to dream about being national champions? At the end of the day there are hundreds of kids who wrestle D1 at each weight class, thousands overall. If you’re ranked in the top whatever, winning a national title is so close that it would be stupid to not set that as a goal. Yeah, Turley is not winning a national title this year, but there’s nothing wrong with him doing whatever he can to get there. If he were to come out and say “yeah my goal is to finish 12th” you guys would be losing your minds.
On what planet is it bad for guys who have been in the top 1% of wrestlers they’ve encountered to dream about being national champions? At the end of the day there are hundreds of kids who wrestle D1 at each weight class, thousands overall. If you’re ranked in the top whatever, winning a national title is so close that it would be stupid to not set that as a goal. Yeah, Turley is not winning a national title this year, but there’s nothing wrong with him doing whatever he can to get there. If he were to come out and say “yeah my goal is to finish 12th” you guys would be losing your minds.
Having goals are great, you misunderstand.. I was just pointing out an observation how most of our guys have results driven goals.. become x but this could be putting unnecessary pressure on themselves, the same pressure you said Poz was getting unfairly due to a lucky year. I was just pointing out process driven goals seem to work better.. kinda like a fixed mindset vs growth mindset..
It's all great if the person works toward it with actions that match; otherwise, it's delusional or insincere at a minimum. SCNJ never gets it; he's a cheerleader. "but there’s nothing wrong with him doing whatever he can to get there" No there isn't, but he's not, and that's the issue.
The season started with talk of elevating program into top 10. Some things haven't really aligned with that kind of finish but that seems to be the standard Coach wants. Looks like 3 guys with legit shit to AA but I could see another 1 or 2 making a run. Hopefully everyone will be healthy(ish) for post season
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For what it’s worth they ended the season ranked 11th.
They are a better dual team than a tournament team on paper, especially now without Poz, so I would expect a finish around 20-25 in the tournament scoring (which I’ve said numerous times is a pointless exercise). They won’t have a champion and might only have 1-2 AA’s which is about where they’ve been for a few years.
Progress isn’t a straight line. I think this years dual results, particularly beating Illinois and hanging neck and neck with Ohio St was indicative that the team is still trending in the right direction despite what some naysayers might say.
Aren’t we on some streak of having at least 2 AA every year? And I do think we got a chance at a champ this year but yeah it’s not likely though.
Unfortunately the streak was broken in 2023. But Rutgers has had 2 or more AAs 7 of the last 8 tournaments.
As for this year, I have them with 1 or 2 AAs and scoring in the 25 (Flo) to 27 (Intermat) point range which puts them in the 21 - 22 range for finish.
7/8 years of having 2+AA isn’t bad and it’s def pretty consistent…. Not sure what Goodale meant when he said he wanted us to become a top 10 team… did he mean a dual meet team or a top 10 performance at NCAA or some mixture of both…
I think we could* get 3 AA this year but it could also be 0 or 1.. just hope we can match last years production….
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