Angelo Ferrarri, they will have battles to come
No. 11 Wrestling At 2025 Big Ten Championships
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To be fair Illinois was our first win over a top 10 team again in almost a decade… and we had multiple chances in the last few years.. Penn dual shoulda never came down to having to win the final 5 matches.. on paper, we were the favorite in that match…
I mean this season has not been as good as you are making it sound, especially when there’s a real chance we don’t continue the streak of last 7/8 years having multiple AA…
I feel ya on this… not only half team didn’t wrestle to seed but far worst is the 3 inj… and 2/3 were our most likely to AA…. Our best wrestlers probably we be seeded in the teens.. there’s a very real chance no AA unfortunately..
Rough weekend. Hopefully, our injuries heal fast and we can get at least 1 AA. First time finishing behind Maryland... 😬 Our historical points and standings:
2025: 46 - 9th
2024: 87.5 - 6th
2023: 32 - 11th
2022: 41 - 9th
2021: 52 - 10th
2020: 25.5 - 12th
2019: 53 - 8th
2018: 42.5 - 11th
2017: 67.5 - 8th
2016: 106.5 - 5th
2015: 20.5 - 11th
2025: 46 - 9th
2024: 87.5 - 6th
2023: 32 - 11th
2022: 41 - 9th
2021: 52 - 10th
2020: 25.5 - 12th
2019: 53 - 8th
2018: 42.5 - 11th
2017: 67.5 - 8th
2016: 106.5 - 5th
2015: 20.5 - 11th
This was their best dual season since 2016 and probably their 2nd best dual season ever. They ended the year ranked 11th. They were always going to perform better as a dual team than a tournament which I’ve been saying for weeks.
Hear what you’re saying. But very few teams, coaches, fan bases care about duals anymore. It’s all about post season tourneys.
I wasn’t expecting much from the B1G tourney. So not surprised by the results. Hopefully some of these guys rally in the NCAA’s.
Something needs to change from the way we prepare and motivate our wrestlers and construct the schedule going forward to make sure we are ready and healthy for the post season.
I don’t think there’s a motivation issue. I think the current roster is made up primarily of guys in the 12-16 range of wrestlers nationally. Several of which can be AA’s on a good weekend and could go 0-2 on a bad weekend. Good for duals, not good for tournament scoring.
Agreed and therein lies the issue regarding what I mean by motivation. This time of the year everyone is beat up and worn out. Some times all that separates is the ability to either self motivate or a coaches ability to motivate someone into a place winner Guys ranked 12-16 sometimes all it takes is motivation to make them a 4-6 ranked guys. Very little separates skill wise from 5-15.
It sounds like it coulda been a motivation issue for Poz.. I can’t remember the last time a wrestler abruptly retired like that a week before post season starts.. from the sound of Goodale’s interview it sounded like Poz coulda wrestled but just decided he was done..
So much of this sport is mental and I think having a good sports psychologist is one of PSU’s secret sauce to success..
I think you are correct about why our team is built more for dual success rather then tournament.. back then when the people were saying we should recruit 2-3 ncaa qualifier lvl guys per every weight I was saying it’s a better strategy to recruit some bluechippers, that can score serious pts, at the risk of having some holes in the lineup.
I think that's a pretty accurate explanation and I am trying to reset the narrative.
Are you sure? I think his freshman year (2020) counted as a year of eligibility. Then 2021, 2023, 2024, and 2025 with 2022 as medical redshirt. Do I have that wrong?
Every college has a sports psychologist on staff , hell Lavalle mentioned that hanover park high school team has had one for the last year that they meet weekly with . Can’t imagine a big 10 school not having one
You’re right, I have my dates messed up. What I meant was that he AA’d in a year where eligibility didn’t count so there’s going to be discrepancies in what people call it. He was an athletic sophomore in 2022 (medical) and 2023. Feels weird calling him a sophomore 3 years in a row.
Sounds like psu has a really good one, Bartlett mentioned her,Bonnie, when he went 1-2 at nationals and she said “you arent fulfilling your potential” it kicked him back into gear w the motivation he needed..
Hate to see a major step back but other than 2016 and 2024 finish in the bottom half
In a strange year when one starter suddenly stops wrestling before the B1Gs and three others MFF out of the tournament before any meaningful team points could be scored, I find it unfair to say the team took a major step back.
This is the part I was talking about earlier in the thread in the Shawver match. Why didn't they escort D*ckhead back to his bench area. After this that ref allows Asswipe to walk back to the scorer's table to continue to berate the refs while they're reviewing. A call they ultimately reverse. The whole situation was handled poorly.
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Tom Ryan has surpassed the brand’s brothers as least likable coach
Tom Ryan calling any staff cowards is the richest hypocrisy.
He intentionally had Paddy Gallagher forfeit to Mesenbrink despite no injury - Gallagher was perfectly fine the rest of the tournament - as a way to save him the wear and tear of a beating and so he was in better shape for the wrestlebacks. He did the same thing with his son (of all people) against Nolf one year.
That’s Brazilian/European soccer levels of shithousery gamesmanship
He actually reminds me of a Megachurch preacher at times with his phony piousness
He intentionally had Paddy Gallagher forfeit to Mesenbrink despite no injury - Gallagher was perfectly fine the rest of the tournament - as a way to save him the wear and tear of a beating and so he was in better shape for the wrestlebacks. He did the same thing with his son (of all people) against Nolf one year.
That’s Brazilian/European soccer levels of shithousery gamesmanship
He actually reminds me of a Megachurch preacher at times with his phony piousness
Thank you. I guess finishing 11th in the country does not count for much but that is just me thinking that way
Tom Ryan is an embarrassment to wrestling. I'm impressed that Mytych didn't go after Ryan after his asinine comment.
I think it counts for something but
1- until duals count more it wont mean nearly as much
2- everyone and their mother on this board always preaches it all about March so the narrative cannot suddenly change when we dont do as well
We certainly would have done better if the 3 guys could have continued but maybe 1 spot better?
Really hope the 3 of them heal up enough to give it a go at Nationals.
Abhorrent comment and conduct by Ryan calling our coaches cowards for protecting an injured wrestler on an illegal trapped arm slam. I hope we filed a formal complaint with the B1G, NCAA, and tOSU demanding a public apology. Apparently (according to comments on social media), Rogotzke sent another wrestler into concussion protocol later on for the same trapped arm slam.
You don't need to know anything about wrestling to see SCW was concussed.
Ryan's a douche
Ryan's a douche
Looking at the replay SCW was clearly dazed and concussed immediately after the slam. With current day medical knowledge of concussion effects, it would say something about his character if Ryan does not individually and publicly apologize for that statement.
So anyone have predictions on who makes it for At Large. I think all but obviously Casale have arguments. I am going to say Yara, Harer and Turley, no White. I dont they will give us 4 At large. Id like to see Harer in. Think he’s wrestling better and a little more aggressively. I feel like Turley has too much pedigree and some good wins to leave out. White really doesn’t have any signature wins besides the 1x over Lillard.
For Wildcard/at large, I think 165/174/HWT has 4 while 157 has 7. So good for Harer chances. Not sure how many Top 20 ranked guys are looking for them because of Conference Tourney upsets, that drives the RU chances at 165/174. Yara is a lock.
Think we get 3-4* Yara a lock, Harer def good chance after Tumbley win.. choosing top made a diff.. some good guys at 174 but I’d be a little surprise if Turley doesn’t get one… I agree with u White got lowest shot but still wouldn’t shock if he made it in either.
Agreed. I said at the time but the staff was particularly fired up when Harer won his 9th place match, way more than any of the other guys who finished one spot out. Not sure if it’s because he’s a true freshman but I got the feeling they think that win got Harer an at large.
It would be wild if they awarded 7 at larges in one weight class and none of them went to the big 10.
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