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I am not a big basketball follower but it seems like Sanders just tries to run through defenders with total abandon over and over and take wild shots.. I keep hearing how he is the "best" player on the team but I just don't see it.
 
I am not a big basketball follower but it seems like Sanders just tries to run through defenders with total abandon over and over and take wild shots.. I keep hearing how he is the "best" player on the team but I just don't see it.

Best athlete on the team..probably.

Agree with you..just don’t see the skill.
 
If only this team had a quincy douby type player who was so cool calm and collected at clutch moments and could shoot lights out NBA JAM style fire.

Sanders no doubt is the best athlete but man is he wreckless.
 
Because nobody else on the team can shoot and he's the only one who can create his own shot. MSU plays great D.
He'll be fine. Just played three of the best teams in the country.
 
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It's tough to watch him offensively at times. Drive into the trees out of control and chuck it up in the vicinity of the rim. And the amount of careless lazy passes that result in turnovers. For every amazing athletic play her makes, there are 10 awful ones.
 
Sounds crazy with the way he has struggled shooting, but I am thinking Corey should take more threes and drive less.

Teams are on to his drives and he has been pressing way too much. If he gets some confidence in his shot, guys will have to play him further out and then he will have an easier time on his drives to the bucket
 
Still a very good defensive player, butt offensively a below average Big 10 guard. Gio showed glimpses of how good he is going to be. I would like to see us spread the floor and run some more isolation stuff for him. For two games in a row now our best players have been our younger guys - good sign.
 
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Sounds crazy with the way he has struggled shooting, but I am thinking Corey should take more threes and drive less.

Teams are on to his drives and he has been pressing way too much. If he gets some confidence in his shot, guys will have to play him further out and then he will have an easier time on his drives to the bucket
Plus when he drives and everyone converges on him he rarely looks for someone else.
 
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Sounds crazy with the way he has struggled shooting, but I am thinking Corey should take more threes and drive less.

Teams are on to his drives and he has been pressing way too much. If he gets some confidence in his shot, guys will have to play him further out and then he will have an easier time on his drives to the bucket

I would rather see him go to the hoop but not by putting his head down and forcing it. If he keeps his head up and can get to the basket it opens things up for second chances. Chucking threes is not the answer.
 
Devils advocate

1. Credit playing tough D through the bad shooting night. He looked melancholy, but then went to work on D

2. Our 2 hasn't shown himself as a catch and shoot, our 3 needs to an insane amount of time and space to get a shot up, our 4s have trouble finishing, and our 5 is raw. The supporting cast needs work offensively.

That said April thru October he let us down.
 
trying to force it too much, one wonders if minutes get disbursed differently going forward. He is what he is. He can still carry the team on his back but at this time, his shot is gone, he shot poorly against bad teams and poorly against good teams
 
Sanders and Freeman had a lot of trouble getting to the rim tonight because of MSU's big men. And the refs were letting them play so it was tough to draw fouls.
 
He hasn’t really improved in two years. However, it’s magnified by the fact that two years ago, as a freshman, he was our only B1G talent. We now have some players who clearly can play in the B1G, so his deficiencies are more obvious.

“Best player” is subjective and hard to measure....but I would not be surprised if Baker is our best player by the end of the year.
 
He hasn’t really improved in two years. However, it’s magnified by the fact that two years ago, as a freshman, he was our only B1G talent. We now have some players who clearly can play in the B1G, so his deficiencies are more obvious.

“Best player” is subjective and hard to measure....but I would not be surprised if Baker is our best player by the end of the year.
and our expectations as fans are now a bit higher too
 
He hasn’t really improved in two years. However, it’s magnified by the fact that two years ago, as a freshman, he was our only B1G talent. We now have some players who clearly can play in the B1G, so his deficiencies are more obvious.

“Best player” is subjective and hard to measure....but I would not be surprised if Baker is our best player by the end of the year.

And IMO & experience this also impacts players psychologically when they’ve been used to being the best player on the team and new and maybe better players enter. Only the player would know this but it may explain why they’re pressing so hard to score.

People don’t like to talk about it because everyone is supposed to be a “team” player but they’re human and it happens.
 
Can you win in college basketball with a point guard that can't shoot?

Then add a 3 that can only shoot when he has insanely wide open
 
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He's trying to do too much or maybe coach is giving him too much to do out there. Either way shooting 13% isn't helping anyone. Time to pull back and concentrate on what you can do well. If he's guarding the other team's best player then he should drive the lane and kick the ball out. Get assists. Scoring was easy for him in high school but he's not Bernard King and he needs a different plan.
 
The idea that he can get his shot wasnt accurate tonight. Good college player but not above that. Would benefit from retooling game to focus on d and handle.
 
only thing i love is his handle and his Defense so far this year.

His shot just isnt falling and the charging into the lane head down into a block by a big man isnt working either.
 
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Sounds crazy with the way he has struggled shooting, but I am thinking Corey should take more threes and drive less.

Teams are on to his drives and he has been pressing way too much. If he gets some confidence in his shot, guys will have to play him further out and then he will have an easier time on his drives to the bucket
Very good points. He certainly is pressing.
 
Can you win in college basketball with a point guard that can't shoot?

Then add a 3 that can only shoot when he has insanely wide open
Your analysis should include every position including the bench where there is poor shooting.
 
Sanders can become a player if he focuses intently on basketball, and some basic offensive shots. Right now, and the past two years, he has yet to find that focus needed to get himself to a better spot.

He is also getting asked to play off the ball more. It's a huge adjustment, but getting him to play be a PG was also a huge adjustment.

The kid has persevered through a lot in his life. He does need to focus in now though, and continue to accept the help he has available. I am not saying he isn't doing it. But the fact that he has no reliable offensive game makes me think his focus just isn't what it needs to be to get him over the top.
 
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I'm no expert but it seems to me not having a reliable outside shooter or two to make the defense come out to defend really hurts Corey's game. Every time he drives there's two or more defenders around the basket.
 
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Sanders and Freeman had a lot of trouble getting to the rim tonight because of MSU's big men. And the refs were letting them play so it was tough to draw fouls.

on 1 end under the basket. seemed a different whistle down low for us on D.
 
last season he was getting fouled and going to the line. Not getting the calls so far this year....
 
Yup, that one was terrible. Just saying that I don't think the refs impacted the score much because it was bad both ways.
no not in a big way but I think they limited Doucoure a bit. The first one (or 2nd) where he got the foul for going after loose ball...when do you see that. It took him out of game. He also got one in 2nd half when he went hands straight up but a little body contact...again it effected him being in..and we got little from Shaq or Sa. They were tight on him...

in the end, we just couldn't score and not blaming the refs.
 
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Sanders is a school yard player, plays that way, and always will. His strength at the Div. I level is defense, and breaking presses. If he stays with those two things he might see Europe some day, maybe.
But, the street in him just doesn't allow that to happen. He thinks he's this great basketball player that would put Michael Jordan to shame. Not!
 
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