Schiano Spit in the Face of Rutgers
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Schiano didn't or doesn't owe Rutgers anything. It was a job, just like Tampa Bay was a job. Now he's got a new job. Good for him. Move on.
I hold no grudge against the man, nor do I wish him continued success. He is just another recruiting rival now.
What do you want? The name of my source or something?
Use your brain. Do you really think he would pass up on ANY P5 Head Coaching job for a DC position.
What does that have to do with him wanting to come back to Rutgers?
You keep stating that he wanted to come back, despite the mods saying the exact opposite.
Back it up with factual evidence.
If you can't, you are just another in a long line of BS artists.
Big fan of the Tampa Two defense. You'd often see our MLB way down middle of the field in coverage. It will be interesting to see what he does with your existing quarters coverage. One of the best coaches at stopping the run. Early on had trouble with the spread and would repeatedly get burned with LB's on WR's. Hell Schiano liked to zone blitz so much sometimes you'd see linemen trying to tackle WR's.
If you've got talent on the DL his D should work well for you because it scares the living crap out of QB's. But if your DL can't get to the QB fast enough you're gonna need strong coverage DB's because they will get exposed.
If you've got talent on the DL his D should work well for you because it scares the living crap out of QB's. But if your DL can't get to the QB fast enough you're gonna need strong coverage DB's because they will get exposed.
And I absolutely think GS would not consider "ANY" P5 HC spot preferable to DC at OSU with a friend, Urban Meyer. "SOME", yes... But not " any".
Nonsense. He needed to get back into CFL and this was an excellent opportunity that will provide a great stepping stone to a P5 coaching opportunity. Had nothing to do with RU.
Schiano showed his true colors as an opportunist looking out for what his next move should be, before he moves onto a better position from Ohio State. Many of you here worshiped the guy. Yes, he rebuilt the program from the scrap heap, but he was paid a fortune for doing it and was giving the keys to the golden palace to get it done. And the reason why he didn't accept those other jobs at the time after 2006 was because a) they weren't promised to him, and b) he was afraid he would give up his cash cow at Rutgers. We saw once the opportunity arose to bolt for the NFL, he left us high and dry. Then after embarrassing himself and showing just how much he was in over his head, he was fired for doing a piss poor job and alienating the pros around him. Then he slapped Rutgers and its devoted fans in the face, by taking this OSU job.
The guy to me has proven to be a phony. Everything he did, he copied from either Schnellenberger or Butch Davis. There wasn't ANYTHING original about the guy. His "chop" mantra was totally un-creative and frankly contrived and stupid. I'm glad we have Chris Ash here and look forward to a new era, knowing that Gary was a terrible gameday coach and for this Rutgers alum and donor, will not be back to the banks.
Hum, let me think...
GS doesn't get any HC position that he really wanted. An opportunity comes up where he can go to a team as DC (his forte) full of 4/5 star caliber athletes. He gets to be in coaching, and have a legitimate chance to be part of National Champs on year one. Meanwhile he gets to learn and process offensive schemes from the best in Urben Meyer all the while getting paid the $3 million from Tampa and OSU. Meyer doesn't care since he fills or upgrade a big void on his staff on the cheap. After just one year, a lot of attractive HC position might open up, oh let's just say PSU. Win-Win situation for Meyer and Schiano.
GS doesn't get any HC position that he really wanted. An opportunity comes up where he can go to a team as DC (his forte) full of 4/5 star caliber athletes. He gets to be in coaching, and have a legitimate chance to be part of National Champs on year one. Meanwhile he gets to learn and process offensive schemes from the best in Urben Meyer all the while getting paid the $3 million from Tampa and OSU. Meyer doesn't care since he fills or upgrade a big void on his staff on the cheap. After just one year, a lot of attractive HC position might open up, oh let's just say PSU. Win-Win situation for Meyer and Schiano.
and again I will say this. when he left he never once said THANK YOU to the fans....NOT ONCE.
And like I said, he showed his true colors. He was really a nobody before coming to the banks. We made him wealthy and known. Graber was a better gameday coach, but received NOTHING from the administration. Can you imagine if Frank Burns received that kind of money and support from the administration. I think he would have been competing with Paterno as one of the best coaches ever in the Northeast.
While I think it is a good move for Schiano and a chance for him to stay relevant, he may have a hard time maintaining the same results that Ash did simply due to the talent drop off next year. Everyone likes to say that they will simply reload but they have a lot of players graduating or likely to leave early for the NFL on the D.
It is fact. I don't care if you believe it or not that doesn't matter, I'm just sick of the dude catching so much heat for no reason.
I did not say that Rutgers was his #1 option. I did not say we were #2. All I'm saying is that from Greg's side, the interest in returning was there. It just wasn't there from Rutgers.
Maybe it wasn't there because ole Greg was trying to hold RU hostage....just don't throw this all on RU not wanting him.
Schiano helped Rutgers FB become respectable and made RU fans start having expectations of greatness , then started being vilified by RU FB fans for RU FB not reaching the goals he was expected to reach.
Just be happy he landed a good position because of what he gave RU fans and be happy he wasn't hired by RU because he never fulfilled the expectations he gave RU FB fans after the 2006 season.
A spit in the face is how some treat Schiano even now and refuse to realize he was good for RU and made RU into a respectable program under him, but not a great program and that's why it was best that he left. His fan support was dwindling because most fans started feeling Greg couldn't get RU to the next level and RU needed to find someone who could.
He was became a victim of the success he started by not improving on it enough to satisfy many of the RU fan base that expected to see RU in BCS Bowls and winning BE Championships .
Just wish him well and don't be petty over his taking the OSU DC position in order to set himself up better when going for the 2017 season P-5 HC openings.
This wan't a personal hit against RU, but a business decision in order to secure a better shot at a top p-5 HC position for the 2017 season.
Just be happy he landed a good position because of what he gave RU fans and be happy he wasn't hired by RU because he never fulfilled the expectations he gave RU FB fans after the 2006 season.
A spit in the face is how some treat Schiano even now and refuse to realize he was good for RU and made RU into a respectable program under him, but not a great program and that's why it was best that he left. His fan support was dwindling because most fans started feeling Greg couldn't get RU to the next level and RU needed to find someone who could.
He was became a victim of the success he started by not improving on it enough to satisfy many of the RU fan base that expected to see RU in BCS Bowls and winning BE Championships .
Just wish him well and don't be petty over his taking the OSU DC position in order to set himself up better when going for the 2017 season P-5 HC openings.
This wan't a personal hit against RU, but a business decision in order to secure a better shot at a top p-5 HC position for the 2017 season.
Also didn't say he played it 100% straight up the way he should have. Just said it was Rutgers that wasn't interested.
I have no inside info at this time (at some point, I do need to ask my friend, who's close friends with Greg), but as I said on the RT earlier, why would Greg pick DC at OSU over head coach at RU for a lot more money/power, unless he simply wasn't offered by RU. Occam's Razor...
Wow, what a load of crap. He wasn't "paid a fortune" at RU for what he accomplished, namely the biggest salvage job ever, which was directly responsible for us getting a great new stadium and into the B1G - he earned every penny and was nowhere near the salary of many others. Every Rutgers fan should be thanking Greg every day for what he did for us.
He absolutely was offered the Michigan job and turned it down. And how can anyone blame him for going to the NFL, especially when the move to the B1G was looking bleak? Yes, he failed at Tampa, I'll grant you that. It's also silly to call him a phony for emulating other successful coaches - that's what most successful people do. I'm warming up to Ash and hope he can have great success here, but he's got a long way to go to make people forget Schiano.
Brown WAS interested...he moved on.
Whether Greg overplayed his hand...only Greg knows that.
My personal view of Greg returning here...pressure would have been enormous.
Why is this disrespectful to ru? I am proud of him and happy for him. He found a perfect and fulfilling gig for himself. A perfect fit. With the potential of turning into hc of tOSU? Well done, gary. I look forward to competing against our old friend. It ties ru to osu in yet another interesting way.
I love this, really.
I love this, really.
True....
Is Schiano's defense very different from Ash's defense? Because if it is, is Meyer willing to change the current D to Schiano's or is Schiano willing to change his D to the current (Ash's D)
Some of you make way too big a deal of this Schiano thing.
- The man did a hell of a job resurrecting the Rutgers program from the dead and putting it on the map and 99.9% of the posters on this board are gracious to him for the job he did. But please realize he moved on 4 years ago and so have we.
- The man jumped on a once in a lifetime job opportunity to be a professional head coach. Considering his .500 lifetime coaching record, he was somewhat fortunate to receive this opportunity and did what most of us would do. The man was here for 11 years which in the 21st century is an ETERNITY for head coaches in D1-A college football. Guys like Paterno, Bowden and now Kirk Ferentz are the exception, not the norm.
Consider this...Steve Spurrier is as much Florida Gator Football as any man in the country. However, after his failed stint in the NFL he returned to a division rival of the Gators as HC...never mind as coordinator. And sorry to say, as someone who both played and coached for national championships at UF, Spurrier means more to the Gators than Greg Schiano does to Rutgers Football. So if Spurrier can move on and UF be ok with it, we can and should be ok with GS moving on. That's life in college football.
- The man did a hell of a job resurrecting the Rutgers program from the dead and putting it on the map and 99.9% of the posters on this board are gracious to him for the job he did. But please realize he moved on 4 years ago and so have we.
- The man jumped on a once in a lifetime job opportunity to be a professional head coach. Considering his .500 lifetime coaching record, he was somewhat fortunate to receive this opportunity and did what most of us would do. The man was here for 11 years which in the 21st century is an ETERNITY for head coaches in D1-A college football. Guys like Paterno, Bowden and now Kirk Ferentz are the exception, not the norm.
Consider this...Steve Spurrier is as much Florida Gator Football as any man in the country. However, after his failed stint in the NFL he returned to a division rival of the Gators as HC...never mind as coordinator. And sorry to say, as someone who both played and coached for national championships at UF, Spurrier means more to the Gators than Greg Schiano does to Rutgers Football. So if Spurrier can move on and UF be ok with it, we can and should be ok with GS moving on. That's life in college football.
Sorry OP but this has nothing to do with you. It is just business, GS doesn't own you or anyone else or Rutgers anything.
We're not beating OSU with or without GS so I don't see the point. As I said before Schiano was good for Rutgers and Rutgers was good for Schiano. Now if he went to PSU as assistant HC I could understand a little angst.
This might be the single smartest thing posted here in the last 48 hours.
There are way too many people taking this personally. This idea that Schiano should be loyal to RU for the rest of his life is silly. I guess we will react the same way when Flood gets his next job?
You're right, but do you think that warrants a thread being started says he "spit in our face." I mean come on, this is a fvcked up thread to start about a person that is completely responsible for most of us even having freakin rivals accounts.
Yes I agree, prove it, or insinuate it, to give us a hint, a little insight?
anything please. How can you pass your wishes on, as a matter of fact?
+1
There's no reason people can't wish GS well at Ohio State AND look forward to the Ash era at Rutgers.
I think it's absolutely hilarious watching the Schiano haters try and pin him down as a horrible coach that failed in the NFL (as if 90% of college coaches haven't failed in the NFL). Some have said anyone could have turned RU around, which even they know is utter BS. Some have said Schiano benefited from all of the financial and administrative support he had that other RU coaches never had -- did you ever stop and think that was because Schiano DEMANDED those things? He knew how good programs should work and wanted RU to be a good program. We are in much better shape NOW because of him and the demand he made from Rutgers.
Did he want to return to Rutgers? I have no idea. I'm pretty sure Miami was his #1 choice, but I've yet to see any indication that Rutgers WANTED him to come back. I think Hobbs believed this was a good time for a fresh start and I agree with him. As much as I would have loved to see Schiano return and take us to heights that the Schiano haters never believe Greg could have reached, I think a fresh start is best for both. Coaches that return to their old jobs rarely have success. And with 40-50% of the fanbase already hating Schiano for various reasons, why bring him back? Start fresh.
Schiano owes Rutgers nothing. The program was put on the modern map by Schiano. He's the reason other college football fans ever respected us at all. You can bring up the "easy schedules" and lack of championships, other college football fans see Rutgers guys in the NFL (where very few were before) and Rutgers winning bowl games. Schiano made that happen.
I wish him well every game but one each year. And I fully support coach Ash.
I've been told that GS was actually considering returning here. But he checked out this board, which refreshed his memory about some of the dimmer bulbs that root for RU.....and decided to pass on it.
It's not like Schiano is pulling a Rick Pitino here, winning a national championship at Kentucky and then going to coach for Louisville.
maybe he wanted to try something different? I have nothing against him. I thank him for his time here and now i look forward to facing him. We should have fun with this and not in a fanatical way where he gets death threats.
He also IMO gives more credibility to our Ash hire. OSU missed out on ash and felt the need to go out and get a Former NFL and college HC to shore up the D and loss of Ash.
Schiano aura also losses some luster now that he is a DC. Ash is instantly > than Schiano
Schiano aura also losses some luster now that he is a DC. Ash is instantly > than Schiano
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Ridiculous.
It stands to reason since he took a DC position that he would have gladly taken the RU HC gig. RU was not interested. Whatever the merits of the decision, that is on RU.
GS is THE reason we have tOSU on the schedule instead of Cincy so stop being such ingrates. Wherever he goes from here, just remember when you look at our scheduled and the millions we are soon to get who is responsible.
It stands to reason since he took a DC position that he would have gladly taken the RU HC gig. RU was not interested. Whatever the merits of the decision, that is on RU.
GS is THE reason we have tOSU on the schedule instead of Cincy so stop being such ingrates. Wherever he goes from here, just remember when you look at our scheduled and the millions we are soon to get who is responsible.
We are showing the spurned ex-girlfriend traits. Schiano hit his ceiling at RU and it is best if we completely move on (including from his coaching tree).
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