Schiano to Alabama in 07?

[WhiteBus]

What am I missing? Bill Snyder returned for a 2nd stint as HC and dug KSU out of the depths and into regular bowl appearances. Didn't win the Big 12, but is bar Schiano must clear to be successful beating Ohio St. on a regular basis?

First of all there is no connection to what your are trying point out, very poorly btw. If you want to go back and try to compare Schiano to 1998 it would be Fulmer not Snyder. Snyder only won the AP vote. IIRC it was the first year they awarded a COY so it wasn't a big thing. Fulmer won all the rest like Schiano, that would be your 1998 comparison. But again what is the point in relation to the actual discussion?? Like it or not the fact was Schiano was in demand and Bama reaching out isn't a surprise. But Schiano haters just ignore the facts and come up with stupid things to say.

 

[brgRC90]

What am I missing? Bill Snyder returned for a 2nd stint as HC and dug KSU out of the depths and into regular bowl appearances. Didn't win the Big 12, but is bar Schiano must clear to be successful beating Ohio St. on a regular basis?

He wrote Big East Coach of the Year, which was Terry Shea. But Schiano is of course vastly better than Terry Shea. The problem is he peaked in 2006--16 years ago, an eternity in college football today--and his fans are still obsessing on it.

 

[vkj91]

Schiano is what he is. He will get this program to a competitive level with bowls most years(depending on OOC schedule and restructering of the BIG divisions), we most likely won't have any scandals, he will pull off the big upset every few years, and he will leave a good amount of talent to the next guy whether that be in 2027 or 2040.
If the BIG gets rid of divisions he can get us to an Iowa like level. IF you guys think we are going to become OSU, Michigan, or PSU then quit now. Ain't happening

 

[e5fdny]

Schiano is what he is. He will get this program to a competitive level with bowls most years(depending on OOC schedule and restructering of the BIG divisions), we most likely won't have any scandals, he will pull off the big upset every few years, and he will leave a good amount of talent to the next guy whether that be in 2027 or 2040.
If the BIG gets rid of divisions he can get us to an Iowa like level. IF you guys think we are going to become OSU, Michigan, or PSU then quit now. Ain't happening

Which around here will be received like the latter.

Would love for it to happen but we’ll see.🤷‍♂️

 

[Shelby65]

He wrote Big East Coach of the Year, which was Terry Shea. But Schiano is of course vastly better than Terry Shea. The problem is he peaked in 2006--16 years ago, an eternity in college football today--and his fans are still obsessing on it.

Yes, I cut out the BE part in the follow up. COY doesn’t mean much. It’s a popularity contest. Is the Heisman winner the best player? Not saying Schiano is Shea but accolades 16 years ago mean nothing now.

 

[brgRC90]

Yes, I cut out the BE part in the follow up. COY doesn’t mean much. It’s a popularity contest. Is the Heisman winner the best player? Not saying Schiano is Shea but accolades 16 years ago mean nothing now.

Well--the fact that people keep going back to 2006 says all you need to know. Nothing on the same scale has been done since then. If it had they'd be talking about it.

 

[Virginiarufan]

Had Schiano stayed he would have had a top 25 class to work with in 2012 plus the number 32 ranked class in 2011. He would have done much better than Flood with those players and things may have taken off from there. Blame our ineptitude on Flood and Ash. Schiano had a .500 record after coming out of the Schea error which took a few years.

 

[ru-baby]

Confusing BE coach of the year with national coach of the year awards. Exactly on point for the level of analysis that is being brought.

 

[Shelby65]

Baby…you are missing the point, which is that none of that matters anymore.

Whether it’s conference or national coach of the year in 1998 or 2006, who cares.

Should the Carolina Panthers hire Bill Parcells?

 

[mdk01]

Had Schiano stayed he would have had a top 25 class to work with in 2012 plus the number 32 ranked class in 2011. He would have done much better than Flood with those players and things may have taken off from there. Blame our ineptitude on Flood and Ash. Schiano had a .500 record after coming out of the Schea error which took a few years.

Actually the 1st year of Flood probably had the same record as Schiano would have had if he stayed. Flood's problem was not the game, but recruiting and administration. However, a few more years with Hafley as the set-up guy and Schiano the closer would have produced subsequent recruiting classes that would have fueled continued improvement.

 

[ru-baby]

Should the Carolina Panthers hire Bill Parcells?

If he was 56-yes all day long

 

[RUTGERS95]

Well the real world, not the Schiano haters universe, disagrees with your interpretation. Besides Bama he was offered the Head Coaching job at Miami and Michigan. Reality trumps hatred.

Lol. Where is he? Where did he go? He couldn't even make osu defense tops with all that talent and his only focus at the time. He is lionized here, oddly

 

[ru-baby]

Really the anti GS over exxageration is silly.

GS is not "lionized". He is the best choice, for this program, at this time. Simple.

Some of you really need to review how bad things were with Ash. Blown out by Kansas-beaten by Ohio, non competitive in most games. We competed since GS got here and however we got there played in a bowl game last year. How that gets overlooked because we lost to Iowa and Nebraska witht he 3rd string qb is really theater of the absurd.

Best choice for this program at this time-repeat it.

 

[WhiteBus]

Lol. Where is he? Where did he go? He couldn't even make osu defense tops with all that talent and his only focus at the time. He is lionized here, oddly

Another a-hole comment from a Schiano hater. Not surprising nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[LETSGORU91]

Yes, I cut out the BE part in the follow up. COY doesn’t mean much. It’s a popularity contest. Is the Heisman winner the best player? Not saying Schiano is Shea but accolades 16 years ago mean nothing now.

Just curious, are you a Yankees fan and do you thump your chest to their 27 WS victories?

 

[Shelby65]

Nope. Mets and Jets. Not much chest thumping here.

 

[patk89]

Sure, a great year if you disregard context. I know I’m repeating myself but the three teams he never beat all left by then and even still he only finished third. Good story, yes, but does mean he’s a good coach? Not always. Do yourself a favor and look up the 1998 Big East Coach of the Year.

You do understand that both L'ville (one loss all season, blew out Miami who, as you say, GS never beat) and WVU (Pat White and Slaton), both finished top 10 in 2006. "Only finished 3rd", you really are an imbecile aren't you now. Do yourself a big favor and jump in a lake.

 

[patk89]

2006 Final AP Football Poll​

Rank	Team (FPV)	Conf	Rec	Pts	Last Week
1	<	2	Florida (64)	SEC	13-1	1624	W 41-14 N #1 Ohio State (BCS NC)
2	<	1	Ohio State	Big Ten	12-1	1492	L 41-14 N #2 Florida (BCS NC)
3	<	4	LSU	SEC	11-2	1452
4	<	8	USC	Pac-10	11-2	1389
5	<	9	Boise State (1)	WAC	13-0	1383
6	<	5	Louisville	Big East	12-1	1338	W 24-13 N Wake Forest (Orange)
7	<	6	Wisconsin	Big Ten	12-1	1288
8	<	3	Michigan	Big Ten	11-2	1145
9	<	10	Auburn	SEC	11-2	1112
10	<	13	West Virginia	Big East	11-2	1035
11	<	7	Oklahoma	Big 12	11-3	933	L 43-42 (1OT) N #9 Boise State (Fiesta)
12	<	16	Rutgers	Big East	11-2	884
13	<	18	Texas	Big 12	10-3	772
14	<	20	California	Pac-10	10-3	697
15	<	12	Arkansas	SEC	10-4	677
16	<	19	BYU	MWC	11-2	673
17	<	11	Notre Dame	Ind	10-3	553
18	<	15	Wake Forest	ACC	11-3	551	L 24-13 N Louisville (Orange)
19	<	14	Virginia Tech	ACC	10-3	407
20	<	23	Boston College	ACC	10-3	353

 

[Shelby65]

You do understand that both L'ville (one loss all season, blew out Miami who, as you say, GS never beat) and WVU (Pat White and Slaton), both finished top 10 in 2006. "Only finished 3rd", you really are an imbecile aren't you now. Do yourself a big favor and jump in a lake.

Thanks for taking the bait. He was the coach for 10 years back then. Does your 2006 snapshot prove he was a great coach the first time around ? And does his history since then demonstrate that he deserved the job again ?

No matter the final rankings in 2006 It remains true that he never beat 4 BE teams in any year.

 

[patk89]

Thanks for taking the bait. He was the coach for 10 years back then. Does your 2006 snapshot prove he was a great coach the first time around ? And does his history since then demonstrate that he deserved the job again ?

No matter the final rankings in 2006 It remains true that he never beat 4 BE teams in any year.

Doubling down on dumb? He took over a depleted program from Coach Shea. Among the worst in college football. 2006 was actually his 6th year, not his 10th so get your facts straight. He gets offered by Miami and, believe it or not, Michigan. He stays at Rutgers. Who does that? Just go sit in the corner. The more you write the more you expose your ignorance. Stop embarrassing yourself. Please. Thanks in advance.

 

[Shelby65]

Doubling down on dumb? He took over a depleted program from Coach Shea. Among the worst in college football. 2006 was actually his 6th year, not his 10th so get your facts straight. He gets offered by Miami and, believe it or not, Michigan. He stays at Rutgers. Who does that? Just go sit in the corner. The more you write the more you expose your ignorance. Stop embarrassing yourself. Please. Thanks in advance.

I said Shea was the coach in ‘98. So no, I didn’t say Schiano was coaching for 10 years in 2006. Try paying attention. I was referring to his tenure the first go round