I bet Schiano just loves logging onto this board every morning while he's eating his scrambled eggs with taco dirt. He can read about what a great coach & recruiter he is just before going thru the next day's batch of rejection letters.
Schiano would've landed one of the QBs
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Where was the momentum GS created? A great year in 2006 followed by 5 years of basically 8 and 5 records?
People don't hate Schiano. They're just tired of hearing how he's the be all and end all of Rutgers football coaches. He's gone and it's time to move on. And we can build him a statue, too.
Yeah, I guess it doesn't belong on that shelf with all of the other league championship trophies that RU has won in football.
And the Lambert Trophy Flood won doesn't belong on that shelf with all of RU's other Lambert Trophies....you know...'cause Eastern football had a down year.
It's funny how I don't have to go over to the 'Cuse board or the Temple board or the UConn board to read putdowns of Rutgers football achievements. They're all right here....thanks to some of our more diehard "fans".
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I don't wish Flood to fail. I'm not saying he shouldn't put the trophies in the trophy case either. But saying Flood did more in the same league that GS played in is absolutely incorrect. The Big East had a down year by far and the best we did was share the title is MULTIPLE teams. It is what it is. The Brooklyn Nets made it to the playoffs with a 36-41 record, are they better than the teams that missed the playoffs in the western conference? Not even close. Just means they got by in a less competitive conference.
I'm a big Shiano fan, but can't believe all the BS of what he would have done if he was still HC.
Greg turned the RU FB program from a joke into a respectable one, but couldn't bring it to the next level after coming close in 2006.
He was great at building up the RU FB program, but didn't seem to able to complete the task of making it a major power.
As for recruiting, Greg was good, but didn't capitalize on the 2006 season enough to make RU more than a minor power with recruiting classes he
brought in.
Not saying Kyle is a good or bad recruiter, just saying the gap between Schaino's recruiting and Flood's isn't as wide as some make it out to be.
Flood saved Schiano's last recruiting class, so can't say Flood can't close,///
What a joke--In the like 1-2 days he was a closer? TP was as much a closer as anyone could be called at the time and he was largely not relevant. The kids had all made up their minds and a handful were thinking of possibly elsewhere--a handful.
What a joke--In the like 1-2 days he was a closer? TP was as much a closer as anyone could be called at the time and he was largely not relevant. The kids had all made up their minds and a handful were thinking of possibly elsewhere--a handful.
Sorry for the confusion. I meant "So many f*cking Kyle Flood Apologists"
I'm sorry after the 2006 season, 10 wins, bowl champions, and finished ranked 12th in the country and NJ HS snubbed us. Sometimes you can't put all the blame on the coaches.
Lazy and not intense?
WTF Are you talking about?
Please show me concrete examples and exactly who thinks he is lazy and not intense
I can understand disappointment in not getting Haskins, but this could be the stupidest post I have ever seen
I would consider Mike Teel a pretty good QB. Schiano took a dead last program and made it respectable pretty much through recruiting. He was a great recruiter, talent evaluator and motivator, but a bad delegator and game day coach. He became complacent in his later years. That being said, we would be very lucky if we could get him back.
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Flood is developing a reputation of being lazy and not intense.
I can see that too. Yea he's a nice guy, but he doesn't have that fire like a Jim Harbaugh.
"csphi,
some posts defy logic and seem to be more on the idiotic side because the poster doesn't have a clue
ArminRU., in my opinion, just made one of those posts because he/she is just looking to bash and the truth doesn't have to be a part of his/her bash.
Lousy recruiter, not the type of personality that makes a good recruiter might be guesses, but better to say that than the BS ArminRU
said.
ArminRU , as far as I'm concerned, is getting a reputation of being someone that shouldn't be taken seriously.
Flood is developing a reputation of being lazy and not intense.
I can see that too. Yea he's a nice guy, but he doesn't have that fire like a Jim Harbaugh.
"csphi,
some posts defy logic and seem to be more on the idiotic side because the poster doesn't have a clue
ArminRU., in my opinion, just made one of those posts because he/she is just looking to bash and the truth doesn't have to be a part of his/her bash.
Lousy recruiter, not the type of personality that makes a good recruiter might be guesses, but better to say that than the BS ArminRU
said.
ArminRU , as far as I'm concerned, is getting a reputation of being someone that shouldn't be taken seriously.
Teel was never an elite QB one site had him as a 2 star another as 3 he did mature into a very good QB the last 6 games of his senior year. Sorry love the guy and what he did for Rutgers but most of his time here he was pedestrian and that is all we needed.
Tommy gunn has already said publicly leaving the R was the worst decision he ever made. He admitted fault.
Not only would we be lucky to get Greg back, we would not be able to attract a coach who has credentials anywhere near coach Schiano. And if you want to say he's never accomplished anything, think about that means for the type of coach we could get...
Not only would we be lucky to get Greg back, we would not be able to attract a coach who has credentials anywhere near coach Schiano. And if you want to say he's never accomplished anything, think about that means for the type of coach we could get...
Yet Greg can't find a job as a HC with all his credentials ? Is he waiting for RU to offer him ?
The 3rd or 4th string running back that shredded the UNC defense in the bowl game. Who recruited him?
Greg has been unemployed for 18 months. What desirable coach " we would be lucky to get" stays unemployed that long?
Greg has been unemployed for 18 months. What desirable coach " we would be lucky to get" stays unemployed that long?
"Admitted fault" Please.... get out of here. Savage said that in a QB interview under the spotlight. He only mentioned that so he would come off as less of a diva so that teams would draft him. The fact that he tried to transfer to so many different places comes off as a red flag. He only said that to cover his ass and look more "mature". We all know damn well that Greg handled that situation horribly.
I wouldn't be surprised if Greg had some unofficial discussions about being a school's HC or have it done through third parties, but feel the type of program that would be ready to hire him might not be as good as he thinks he can wind up at.
I have a feeling ( probably totally wrong) that if the Illinois HC doesn't make it out of his current troubles, Schiano might be someone they are interested in.
No matter what anyone thinks of Greg, he has a reputation of caring for his players and still is respected for bring the RU FB program out of the trash heap..
But Greg had his shot at making RU great and only could make it good, time for all Schiano supporters ( including me) to give up the Ghost and
support a live one.
Flood isn't going anywhere, so might as well support him till we see how RU preforms in 2015.
A good season will bring in better recruits if RU plays the top B1G programs more competitively and not get blown out by them in 2015.
Stop rationalizing.
Oh and to the above, a guy who is getting paid $3M a year tp spend time with his kids would stay away from coaching. Especially a righteous family man. And especially a man who can coach as a HC at a majority of college programs or as a DC in the pros. You think Schiano has been banished from the football world??? What are you crazy????
This board is becoming more sane than the Round Table. All the negatoids are over there feasting on the excitement from one of our prime targets going elsewhere. I used to think they were ruining this board, but apparently they all paid the money necessary to ruin the Round Table. It seems like most of the reasonable people have moved elsewhere.
Not sure I've ever seen so much fail in one thread before - and that's saying something around here.
Retaining commits that have already committed isn't closing, it's maintaining. Totally different set of circumstances.
As I said before, Recruiting talk should be banned from the Rutgers boards.
Christ- we have 4 QBs currently on the roster, Greg would have forgot to recruit another one this year and instead, would have been looking for a DL he could have switched to OL.
Schiano's best recruiting classes were his last two classes. Most of those players he never got the opportunity to coach (the 2011 class was either redshirted or played only on special teams). In reality, Flood is winning because of those recruits, players that GS recruited. We will see what happens in a couple of years when those players are gone whether Flood can still win.
Yeah he quit and went on to a .300 record in the NFL.
Good coaches win. The recruiting is similar the past 10 years with a more difficult schedule last year. If you can't understand that you're in denial.
Yes we will see. It's a brutal schedule. Not even comperable to BE 2.0 schedules. Winning 8 games is like winning 10 in the old BE 2.0.
If you want to qualify everything that makes KF's winning percentage even more impressive.
Good coaches win. The recruiting is similar the past 10 years with a more difficult schedule last year. If you can't understand that you're in denial.
Yes we will see. It's a brutal schedule. Not even comperable to BE 2.0 schedules. Winning 8 games is like winning 10 in the old BE 2.0.
If you want to qualify everything that makes KF's winning percentage even more impressive.
So Martin, Hicks, Turay, Goodwin, Grant, Patton, Tsimis, Barnwell, Boggs etc. are not impact players that were crucial in attaining an 8-5 record? Interesting analysis youve got there....
Based on this logic its Schiano's fault we struggled in 2013 as well..
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