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I read a profile about former Eagles WR Todd Pinkston who is now a RB coach for the KC Chiefs under Reid. He said that if you want to coach at the next level, you need to have knowledge to coach at all positions.Scott Vallone is not only a good recruiter, a former RU player and loyal son he can actually coach offense and defense. Great move coach Schiano.
100% makes sense.I read a profile about former Eagles WR Todd Pinkston who is now a RB coach for the KC Chiefs under Reid. He said that if you want to coach at the next level, you need to have knowledge to coach at all positions.
A defensive tackle - coaching tight ends? Yea that group should be electric
I think he will likely focus on OL and blocking schemes with them. It’s not as if the offensive coaches will be prevented from coaching the TEs. That said, Scott could’ve picked up broader knowledge and has evolved over his coaching career. Let’s face it, can we do worse? I also didn’t expect Mark Bavaro to come out of retirement to take the position.A defensive tackle - coaching tight ends? Yea that group should be electric
Scott has experience at this point.Agreed.
I'm not a fan of "hires for recruiting".
We already have limited offensive coaches.
I'd rather a coach with a history of coaching the position.
The big upgrade from the first staff to the current staff was replacing the offensive coaches with veterans coaches and not prioritizing recruiting.
Scott has experience at this point.
Who was on your hot list for the job?Agree to disagree.
We only get 10 coaching positions.
I've long advocated offense should have 6 positions to 4 for defense (why does OC have to cover a position but DC never does? Until this year where we incredibly need 2 different DL coaches - I'm getting off topic).
With only 5, every position needs to provide maximum coaching impact.
Literally look at the OL once we hired a real coach and not a recruiter.
Resume:
DL in college
Multiple years coaching DL/LB prior to Rutgers
Then various 5 years of Offensive/Defensive analyst roles at Rutgers.
Who was on your hot list for the job?
A defensive tackle - coaching tight ends? Yea that group should be electric
it’s a very good hire since he has played D line, coached the O line and been around the program in all capacities.Who was on your hot list for the job?
Fair enough. But do you really feel that GS is just rolling the ball out with Vallone? The guy has experience at lower levels where he had to teach and develop. I think it’s important that coaches understand how everything fits together.That's not my job.
But my requirement would have been at least 1 year as an offensive position coach - let alone TE coach.
This isn't a new argument and has nothing to do with Vallone personally.
It's why I think Syracuse made a terrible hire with HC Brown.
I don't really care about recruiting.
Get the best players all you want.
You can't just roll the ball out.
Need coaches to actually develop players and put them in positions to succeed.
That's not my job.
But my requirement would have been at least 1 year as an offensive position coach - let alone TE coach.
This isn't a new argument and has nothing to do with Vallone personally.
It's why I think Syracuse made a terrible hire with HC Brown.
I don't really care about recruiting.
Get the best players all you want.
You can't just roll the ball out.
Need coaches to actually develop players and put them in positions to succeed.
If you had half a brain you would be dangerous. Vallone played DL and coached Oline under Flats… coached at Fordham …. Was an analyst… he has earned the shot . He is a very good rep of what a Rutgers guy is.A defensive tackle - coaching tight ends? Yea that group should be electric
Steve Shimko was on Greg's roster 2008-2010 as QB. Coached TEs, and was OC and QB coach under Hafley at BC last year.Who was on your hot list for the job?
Which coaches do you find sexy? 🤔I think Scott will continue to do a great job at Rutgers.
Not the sexiest hire but not many will outwork the guy!
Someone has to throw the ball in their general vicinity and call plays in which they are participants for them to be electric. If you want the appliances to work, they have to be plugged in and turned on.A defensive tackle - coaching tight ends? Yea that group should be electric
Agree to disagree.
We only get 10 coaching positions.
I've long advocated offense should have 6 positions to 4 for defense (why does OC have to cover a position but DC never does? Until this year where we incredibly need 2 different DL coaches - I'm getting off topic).
With only 5, every position needs to provide maximum coaching impact.
Literally look at the OL once we hired a real coach and not a recruiter.
Resume:
DL in college
Multiple years coaching DL/LB prior to Rutgers
Then various 5 years of Offensive/Defensive analyst roles at Rutgers.
Hmmm…. You wouldn’t take fran brown if he wanted to come here? I would in a heart beat.Agreed.
I'm not a fan of "hires for recruiting".
We already have limited offensive coaches.
I'd rather a coach with a history of coaching the position.
The big upgrade from the first staff to the current staff was replacing the offensive coaches with veterans coaches and not prioritizing recruiting.
Remind me again what position he has been coaching the past few years?Masterful....2.0 figured out a way to be even more defense-oriented. By 2025 we'll be punting on 3rd down.
ExactlyVallone has always risen to the occasion and performed well at his job. I suspect he has the same vision as his HC since he first came to Rutgers as a player back in 2008. He is well versed in developing a player … doesn’t matter to me or most whether he played that position.
Isn't our DC also handling the linebackers?Agree to disagree.
We only get 10 coaching positions.
I've long advocated offense should have 6 positions to 4 for defense (why does OC have to cover a position but DC never does? Until this year where we incredibly need 2 different DL coaches - I'm getting off topic).
With only 5, every position needs to provide maximum coaching impact.
Literally look at the OL once we hired a real coach and not a recruiter.
Resume:
DL in college
Multiple years coaching DL/LB prior to Rutgers
Then various 5 years of Offensive/Defensive analyst roles at Rutgers.
Thank You cubuffdoug and who would know better than a former player like you. There are many Rutgers board members who understand multiple sports, coaching and athletic abilities. I have found several who no matter what are only posting to knock Rutgers in most sports. The Vallone hire for me is solid all around . Schiano could have gone several different routes …he chose Scott Vallone who embodies Rutgers values and who projects to a hire level someday.The lack of knowledge on this board is beyond dangerous. Just because a guy played one position doesn't mean he can't coach another. When you play a sport like football at a high level, you are exposed to details of almost every position. Most coaches don't coach the position they played. Also, coaches attend clinics to learn the newest techniques in the sport. I wish some posters learn a few things other than speaking with little to no knowledge of what it takes to be a coach
Isn't our DC also handling the linebackers?
Blocking TE U