SEC to count BYU, Army as P5 games.
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Good for Army as it means they don't have to worry about having a weak schedule anymore.
Rutgers this season will play two real P5 schools and Army in their OOC.
Rutgers this season will play two real P5 schools and Army in their OOC.
Actually, Army wants weak/weaker schedules...hence why they bolted from CUSA a decade ago as their sole goal is to find 6 wins per year somewhere...anywhere...so they can go bowling.
Army has had just 1 winning season out of the last 18 years.
Its funny to see certain P5 conf try to make themselves look better (SEC says Army game will count but not a game vs NAVY since Navy is a member of the AAC)...which is exactly what Geno Auriemma noted at a community roundtable on Tuesday...
"They do a very good job of trying to screw anybody who's not in those Power Five conferences," Auriemma said. "They're really good at it. And they're very successful at it because that's one way to make yourself look even better than you are, is make everybody else look like they suck - and they are very, very good at that."
But other P5 conf will do the same (i.e. ACC), and with a huge majority of the Playoff Committee made up of P5 "connected" members, I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years, some team will get a "boost" for playing Army in non-schedule while others that play Boise State et al, won't.
As in future...remember, ACC was the first conf to count BYU as a P5 team (even though same team lost to 2 AAC teams last year), plus, ACC doesn't mind its own members that play not just one, but TWO Div I-AA games per year....plus, are now allowing conf members to play NON-CONF games during specific years.
ACC is doing everything they can to make their football conf "look better" from total wins (vs nobodies) and/or puff up teams when they don't deserve it.
SEC did not make this decision in a vacuum, as most conf seem to follow suit.
It's hard for a Rutgers fan to swallow, but ND wouldn't play at Rutgers because they consider us to be FCS or possibly MAC. They've shown that they will schedule home and home with other schools, most recently UGA. And they'll go to a place as small as BCU.
"Army would lose to a lot of FCS teams."
They lost to Yale last year, IIRC.
I would rather that neither count as a P5 team. BYU made its choice so let it live with it. They can schedule more Friday night home games against Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico State, etc. so they can enjoy their football independence.
Counting Army as a P5 team will fool no one.
They lost to Yale last year, IIRC.
I would rather that neither count as a P5 team. BYU made its choice so let it live with it. They can schedule more Friday night home games against Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico State, etc. so they can enjoy their football independence.
Counting Army as a P5 team will fool no one.
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The SEC is trying to use a weird Independent loophole, so basically any game against FBS Indy will be counted as them a P5 game.
It is a loophole for a rule that THEY created, which is that they want to pretend to play more P5 schools OOC since the SEC typically plays the easiest OOC schedule out of all of the P5 conferences.
It is a loophole for a rule that THEY created, which is that they want to pretend to play more P5 schools OOC since the SEC typically plays the easiest OOC schedule out of all of the P5 conferences.
It has NOTHING to do with them considering us FCS or MAC. Don't be silly. They have played in Piscataway before, remember? When Regis used the Somerset Patriots ballpark for a Notre Dame pep rally, and Rutgers students sold their tickets to Notre Dame fans who couldn't get in because they didn't have student IDs? Only good thing about that day. :)
It was about money and control of tickets and trying to bully a program that needed the money. And to Rutgers eternal credit, they told the Irish what they could do with themselves. That was a proud day to be a Rutgers fan, but it was not about how they looked at us as a MAC program. Just nonsense.
"required" to play a P5 non-conference........
required or what?
you go on double secret probation?
...........more silliness..........
required or what?
you go on double secret probation?
...........more silliness..........
Originally posted by ru109:
Notre Dame also but no
one will schedule them as they would expect a home and home and the SEC
does not go on the road OC, and forget about going north on top of that.
UGA just entered into a home and home with ND. Tennessee has in the past as has LSU.
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When did LSU go to ND? I thought I heard one time that when LSU played Washington in Washington it was the first time they played a game above the mason dixon line in like 50 years.
Notre Dame also but no
one will schedule them as they would expect a home and home and the SEC
does not go on the road OC, and forget about going north on top of that.
UGA just entered into a home and home with ND. Tennessee has in the past as has LSU.
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When did LSU go to ND? I thought I heard one time that when LSU played Washington in Washington it was the first time they played a game above the mason dixon line in like 50 years.
can this also have to do with TV sets watching?
- An SEC team vs. an FCS gets few casual fans watching outside of the team's fanbase.
- An SEC team vs a MAC / SunBelt gets some more casual fans but is not likely an ESPN game.
- AN SEC team vs. Army can get ESPN to broadcast, get onto the Armed Forces Network for overseas serviceman / women and get a lot of casual fans who were in the military and have an affinity for Army.
- An SEC team vs. an FCS gets few casual fans watching outside of the team's fanbase.
- An SEC team vs a MAC / SunBelt gets some more casual fans but is not likely an ESPN game.
- AN SEC team vs. Army can get ESPN to broadcast, get onto the Armed Forces Network for overseas serviceman / women and get a lot of casual fans who were in the military and have an affinity for Army.
You typed "SEC" instead of "Florida". Ohio State backed out of a home and home with Georgia, so they replaced tOSU with Notre Dame. Tennessee has signed home and home agreements with Pitt and Nebraska and a 2-for-1 with UConn. Arkansas just completed a series with us (I guess NJ isn't in the north?) and have a home and home with Michigan. LSU recently had home and homes with Washington and West Virginia and scheduled Oklahoma. Texas A&M has a home and home with Notre Dame in the future.
For once I calmly read down the thread to see if anyone would state the obvious.. this has ESPN fingerprints all over it. They seriously jumped into bed with the SEC and are behind decisions like this. No doubt.
