Someone explain this to me

[RepeatedCrown6]

Ok, so in another thread we are debating if a couple of players should be here next year. They are on scholarship currently so that is that.

Here is my question,

In the NBA,

If you sign a guy to a contract, at any point you can decide to waive/cut/release/trade that player off of your roster.

In HS,

If the player doesn't cut it you can cut him, send him down to JV, or outright bench him until he quits.

But @ Rutgers

We have to allow the kid to stay on a scholarship that he is not really earning (because his level of play dictates he is not good enough), so he can do whats best for him.

In nursing school, you have to maintain a high GPA, at Rutgers Basketball, you just have to maintain a pulse to stay on scholly?

Anyone else see my point?

 

[BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap]

I don't think this is exclusively a Rutgers problem and applies to all college sports.

*Edit - I shouldn't have used the word "problem". If a coach brings a kid in, and the kid busts their ass in practice, is a good teammate, stays out of trouble, and keeps their grades up, why shouldn't they be allowed to stay on scholarship? Is it the fault of the athlete if he/she isn't good enough to compete at this level. No. It's the fault of the coaching staff for bringing in a player they should have known wouldn't cut it at this level of competition.

 

[kcg88]

It's a Big Ten rule: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/

 

[RUChoppin]

Obvious troll is obvious.

Even so... https://www.athleticbusiness.com/governing-bodies/big-ten-becomes-first-power-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships.html

Any student-athlete recruited to a Big Ten institution through the offer of an athletic scholarship will be guaranteed the following throughout the course of their enrollment:

• The scholarship will neither be reduced nor cancelled provided he or she remains a member in good standing with the community, the university and the athletics department.
• If a student-athlete's pursuit of an undergraduate degree is interrupted for a bona fide reason, that student-athlete may return to the institution at any time to complete his or her degree with the assistance of an athletic scholarship.

 

[xkiesterx]

These are kids lives, not just basketball games. Even if it weren't a B1G rule we should guarantee scholarships. These students took scholarships that were offered to them and there's no indication that they didn't try their best to help the team and be good students. Please have some perspective here.

 

[RepeatedCrown6]

These are kids lives, not just basketball games. Even if it weren't a B1G rule we should guarantee scholarships. These students took scholarships that were offered to them and there's no indication that they didn't try their best to help the team and be good students. Please have some perspective here.

I am not trolling, and I am not attacking the player(s) as people, I am just saying, If they are not good enough to compete, than their spot on the basketball team should not be given, why aren't they asked to earn it, if they can't earn it, then they should not be on a basketball scholarship. Plain and simple.

 

[Virginiarufan]

If a player isn't good enough at this level he knows he's not going to see the floor. If they're a competitive person, that should be the motivation for them to seek their level. We should do everything we can to help them get there. But if they still want that RU diploma, we should honor our commitment to the player.

 

[RUChoppin]

I am not trolling, and I am not attacking the player(s) as people, I am just saying, If they are not good enough to compete, than their spot on the basketball team should not be given, why aren't they asked to earn it, if they can't earn it, then they should not be on a basketball scholarship. Plain and simple.

See above Big Ten rule. Plain and simple.

 

[gigantor1024]

I am not trolling, and I am not attacking the player(s) as people, I am just saying, If they are not good enough to compete, than their spot on the basketball team should not be given, why aren't they asked to earn it, if they can't earn it, then they should not be on a basketball scholarship. Plain and simple.

yeah let's do this for football and all sports. Where do people come up with this garbage??

 

[PhilaPhans]

Repeated negative posting (nonetheless over-the-top attacks like calling him absolutely worthless) is attacking the player. So why don't you chill a bit. We all know that Souf is outmatched at this level. Attacking a student athlete to that degree will just get you banned here if it keeps up.

But you have your answer. It's a B1G rule. The end.

 

[biazza38]

The fact that you don’t see the flaw in your argument puzzles me.

 

[RUblackshirt2006]

I didn’t do well enough in high school to know this but, if you get an academic scholarship, do you have to maintain a minimum gpa to retain the scholarship or is it guaranteed for 4 years?

It should be similiar in athletics I think.

 

[littlenis5]

The initial analogy is off anyway. In the NBA, if you sign a player and he turns out not to be good, you can try to trade him to another team where there will be equal opportunity and same salary. If you waive a player, you pay the rest of the contract, and then the player can go and do what he wants when he clears waivers.

I’m sure the players would gladly welcome a system where they can get the cash value of their remaining scholarship if waived and then have the right to immediately transfer.

A missed point in all of this - why should the whole burden be on the player? In a case like Souf, if the coaching staff, with all its experience, tells him he can play at this level, why would he question it? They are the experts. Assuming he works hard and this is the best he can do, it’s not his fault if the coaching staff misled him or themselves. Why should the burden be on him to transfer?

Now, if someone is told they are to come here and expected to work hard and be in shape and they fail to do so, that may be a different story of not living up to a commitment.