It’s the “Brands Brat Behavior” syndrome that appears to be contagious.Craziest thing I've ever seen. What the hell?
It’s the “Brands Brat Behavior” syndrome that appears to be contagious.
I’ll stay with my diagnosis as it is based on observing the Terrible Twosome going back to their undergraduate days. It’s much more than just last night‘s episode. If the man has a mental illness I certainly hope he gets help but we’ve seen this behavior from many Hawkeyes for many years. Either way it’s an unfortunate end to an otherwise brilliant career.I don't know that looked more like mental illness.
She won a silver medal in Judo in the PanAm games.She looked like a deranged lunatic
So then she understands what it’s like to lose and should have composed herself instead of becoming a viral clipShe won a silver medal in Judo in the PanAm games.
He’s a warrior though!!Also he didn't show up to wrestle his consolation brackets or whatever? Is that common behavior? You're a 3 time national champion, have some dignity man!
He certainly is. But unless he is injured, that's a very poor way to bow out of your last opportunity on the mat. Fans are there to see him and especially the Hawkeye faithful who want to watch him one last time. Sour grapes and seeing mom makes me think the Lee family is a little too used to winning.He’s a warrior though!!
He’s not a warrior. He didn’t get injured in that last second toss. If he somehow pops out of that and hits a reversal and snags 2 backs and wins the match, do you think he MFF’s the finals? Absolutely embarrassing decision by an all time great.He certainly is. But unless he is injured, that's a very poor way to bow out of your last opportunity on the mat. Fans are there to see him and especially the Hawkeye faithful who want to watch him one last time. Sour grapes and seeing mom makes me think the Lee family is a little too used to winning.
Third or sixth.. doesn’t matter to him… might even look better in history books if it might get some assumptions that he lost semifinal bc he got injured… either way it’s pretty hard to keep going after getting upset like that.. I’m sure he woulda wrestled if it still impacted the team raceHe’s not a warrior. He didn’t get injured in that last second toss. If he somehow pops out of that and hits a reversal and snags 2 backs and wins the match, do you think he MFF’s the finals? Absolutely embarrassing decision by an all time great.
If you can’t emotionally wrestle for 3rd because you lost in the semi’s, you are a coward not a warrior.Third or sixth.. doesn’t matter to him… might even look better in history books if it might get some assumptions that he lost semifinal bc he got injured… either way it’s pretty hard to keep going after getting upset like that.. I’m sure he woulda wrestled if it still impacted the team race
In normal circumstances, 99.99% of the time, it would be sour grapes after an unexpected loss. The impact of losing that match, what was expected to be his last and a monumental achievement, had to be crushing emotionally at another level. There are losses and there are devastating losses. I wondered if he would be able to come back on the mat for 3rd. The emotional impact of that probably was physically draining as well. I don't excuse him but do understand.Third or sixth.. doesn’t matter to him… might even look better in history books if it might get some assumptions that he lost semifinal bc he got injured… either way it’s pretty hard to keep going after getting upset like that.. I’m sure he woulda wrestled if it still impacted the team race
He’s a warrior though!!
You smokin' something today? He is...he isnt? Or was the IS a sarcastic response? Must have been. I was going on warrior based on his past, not this tourney. The dude finished wrestling a year with 2 torn ACLs (or something like that), didn't he? BUT, then he went out with a whimper this year. He cheated his fans.He’s not a warrior. He didn’t get injured in that last second toss. If he somehow pops out of that and hits a reversal and snags 2 backs and wins the match, do you think he MFF’s the finals? Absolutely embarrassing decision by an all time great.
The first post was sarcasm. Spencer Lee does not ever shy away from telling you how tough he is and he’s a total cornball about it.You smokin' something today? He is...he isnt? Or was the IS a sarcastic response? Must have been. I was going on warrior based on his past, not this tourney. The dude finished wrestling a year with 2 torn ACLs (or something like that), didn't he? BUT, then he went out with a whimper this year. He cheated his fans.
So then she understands what it’s like to lose and should have composed herself instead of becoming a viral cl
Told my wife the exact same thing at that time. Our logic was the same I am sure. Hope to see you at the spring game if not before.I called it as soon as he was pinned. I turned and told my Rutgers friends in our suite that he was done and would forfeit out. He walked perfectly fine to the tunnel
Agree but I think posters are pointing out yet another reason why not many people think highly of the Iowa wrestling (Brands) culture. It really didn’t surprise me like it would have if another school‘s wrestler’s family member would have behaved as immaturely.We had no AAs and you focus on Lee's mom. WTF
They still produce. The Brands style while not liked by most. They are gods in Iowa. Unfortunately where did Iowa finish vs RU. Wrestling is intense…as a parent in can relate. Until we beat them we are just haters.Agree but I think posters are pointing out yet another reason why not many people think highly of the Iowa wrestling (Brands) culture. It really didn’t surprise me like it would have if another school‘s wrestler’s family member would have behaved as immaturely.
Maybe it’s just me but as Tom and Terry age they are starting to look like Don Imus.
Our guy's seasons are over. We can all shrivel up in the corner and/or complain about no AAs for the first time in how long? Or we can get over it and talk about the temper tantrum Mrs. Lee had on national television. It was an embarrassing display and worth her own thread in my opinion.We had no AAs and you focus on Lee's mom. WTF
If that makes you happy good for you. I want AAs. Plus Lees resume…no one on RU can even come close.Our guy's seasons are over. We can all shrivel up in the corner and/or complain about no AAs for the first time in how long? Or we can get over it and talk about the temper tantrum Mrs. Lee had on national television. It was an embarrassing display and worth her own thread in my opinion.
What needs to change. Tell us your opinionIf that makes you happy good for you. I want AAs.
I still say that they look like Don Imus.They still produce. The Brands style while not liked by most. They are gods in Iowa. Unfortunately where did Iowa finish vs RU. Wrestling is intense…as a parent in can relate. Until we beat them we are just haters.
If that makes you happy good for you. I want AAs.
Get more wrestlers like Lee. I know you’re at practice everyday. I will always bleed RU. I think you starting with the wrong person.. My family has contributed more $$$ then probably ever one who post. Plus my son started the AA run. So don’t ever question what I think needs to be changed. Screw lees momWhat needs to change. Tell us your opinion
Spot on and very well statedI think the criticism of Mrs. Lee is wrong. She is a parent who was hoping that her son would become a 4 time national champ. Only, five other wrestlers have done this. I view it as an emotional reaction of a mother who loved her son and was feeling his pain. Spencer endured many operations and suffered serious injuries. Few if any of us, could have endured his medical issues and still have competed. We saw a mother who was feeling her son's pain.
And by the way, I am not and have never been an Iowa fan.
The media and fans should have focused on Matt Ramos and given him the credit he deserves.
I didn't questioned if you bleed RU or how much money you contribute. I ask the question what needs to change to produce more AA's. I see your response get more Lee's.Get more wrestlers like Lee. I know you’re at practice everyday. I will always bleed RU. I think you starting with the wrong person.. My family has contributed more $$$ then probably ever one who post. Plus my son started the AA run. So don’t ever question what I think needs to be changed. Screw lees mom
I want AAs as well and I'm not complacent where we are at this moment if that was your thought. Very few programs consistently get Lee type recruits but we had a couple of pretty damn good ones wrestle for us recently. Unfortunately, we didn't capitalize off that success and catapult into the next level.If that makes you happy good for you. I want AAs. Plus Lees resume…no one on RU can even come close.
We are better then them in duals.. they were better then us at nationals this year.I tend to disagree with the posts that we are the 3rd team in NJ behind Princeton and Rider. The way I judge ranking is how did you fare in head to head dual meets which tells me what kind of a team you are. The last time I looked we beat both Princeton and Rider head to head in direct dual meet competition. I agree we have to recruit better as well as wrestle better.
That's one way to look at it. The other is the final standings. Most look at the final standings, though I concede dual meet should weigh more substantially. The bottom line is Rider and Princetin had guys wrestling on the national stage for points when it mattered most. We didn't.I tend to disagree with the posts that we are the 3rd team in NJ behind Princeton and Rider. The way I judge ranking is how did you fare in head to head dual meets which tells me what kind of a team you are. The last time I looked we beat both Princeton and Rider head to head in direct dual meet competition. I agree we have to recruit better as well as wrestle better.
I tend to disagree with the posts that we are the 3rd team in NJ behind Princeton and Rider. The way I judge ranking is how did you fare in head to head dual meets which tells me what kind of a team you are. The last time I looked we beat both Princeton and Rider head to head in direct dual meet competition. I agree we have to recruit better as well as wrestle better.
Why would he say that when no one would have known better what to expect?All year Coach Goodale said it is about March.
How?Hoping for substantial improvements next year.