Statement from Coach Flood

[RUfan121]

Sargeant is such a d-bag.

 

[KJ_RU]

If that is true then why doesn't the professor just say "no"? I really want to know who this professor is.

That's why coaches shouldn't be contacting professors. If Barnwell was already given the opportunity to raise the grade and fell short then he is ineligible, period. Flood asking, 'is there anything more he can do' really puts the professor in an awkward situation. Does he make an exception for Barnwell, which is clearly a violation or does he say no and get viewed as an enemy of the program. Flood should've never contacted him, let alone ask that question.

 

[cRURah]

Sounds like all Flood did was ask the Prof if there was a chance Barnwell could do extra work to get a better grade.

Not his place to do that.

 

[coldsprings]

That's why coaches shouldn't be contacting professors. If Barnwell was already given the opportunity to raise the grade and fell short then he is ineligible, period. Flood asking, 'is there anything more he can do' really puts the professor in an awkward situation. Does he make an exception for Barnwell, which is clearly a violation or does he say no and get viewed as an enemy of the program. Flood should've never contacted him, let alone ask that question.

Exactly! I've been a professor for almost 40 years. After final grades are in, students often ask: "Is there anything else I can do, I really need this grade." I know of no one who considers such requests as it would be unfair to other students. Most universities only allow grade changes in the case of instructor error or when an incomplete grade has been given because of serious illness. Some universities specifically ban students "importuning" for grades after final grades are posted. If students are banned from importuning, head coaches shouldn't either.

 

[RU Husky]

Exactly! I've been a professor for almost 40 years. After final grades are in, students often ask: "Is there anything else I can do, I really need this grade." I know of no one who considers such requests as it would be unfair to other students. Most universities only allow grade changes in the case of instructor error or when an incomplete grade has been given because of serious illness. Some universities specifically ban students "importuning" for grades after final grades are posted. If students are banned from importuning, head coaches shouldn't be either.

Hope you are not an English prof. Your last sentence is a beaut.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Aren't the T-grades AFTER the class has been completed and a grade has been given to the student ?

 

[sct1111]

That's why coaches shouldn't be contacting professors. If Barnwell was already given the opportunity to raise the grade and fell short then he is ineligible, period. Flood asking, 'is there anything more he can do' really puts the professor in an awkward situation. Does he make an exception for Barnwell, which is clearly a violation or does he say no and get viewed as an enemy of the program. Flood should've never contacted him, let alone ask that question.

An enemy of the program? I don't buy that.

There is no reason a professor should have to report this situation to the press just because they felt awkward. They're college professors, not little kids. They can hold their own. I'm guessing this professor had something against the football program.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

T grades at RU are issued with regular grades.

They are issued with the grade the student would have gotten if the grade was issued normally. For example, TB-...if the grade is never changed, it becomes a B- on the transcript.

Summer T grades need to be completed by 12/1 or prior.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Adding to my previous post, the student could petition the instructor for a T grade in the event some portion of the coursework is not completed on time/by the end of the semester.

In the RARE event a student would be given an opportunity to do "extra work" outside of what other students were offered, the T grade would accompany the current grade, when grades are submitted.

When the missing course work is completed, the Prof issues a grade change and the T disappears and is replaced with the new, permanent grade.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Exactly! I've been a professor for almost 40 years. After final grades are in, students often ask: "Is there anything else I can do, I really need this grade." I know of no one who considers such requests as it would be unfair to other students. Most universities only allow grade changes in the case of instructor error or when an incomplete grade has been given because of serious illness. Some universities specifically ban students "importuning" for grades after final grades are posted. If students are banned from importuning, head coaches shouldn't be either.

well IF that rule exists at Rutgers, fine. Does it?
And all the dick had to do was say no. But instead tries to turn it well into something much more than what it likely was. Ok a coach advocates for his player with a simple and fair question. ..big deal. If the prof says no and then it becomes something else..well that is a different story. But this is Rutgers...so we eat our own. Wouldn't now be surprised to hear this is the kind of Prof who didn't give Barnwell a fighting chance because he is on the team..

 

[KJ_RU]

An enemy of the program? I don't buy that.

There is no reason a professor should have to report this situation to the press just because they felt awkward. They're college professors, not little kids. They can hold their own. I'm guessing this professor had something against the football program.

Sounds like you've got him pegged as an enemy of the program, lol

 

[rurichdog]

I don't know about "enemy of the program" but I'm convinced he or she is not very confident in their own decision to fail the student, nor their ability to back up their reasoning behind not granting an exception. If you don't want to, then sack up & tell the coach he didn't earn one from you!

 

[KJ_RU]

I don't know about "enemy of the program" but I'm convinced he or she is not very confident in their own decision to fail the student, nor their ability to back up their reasoning behind not granting an exception. If you don't want to, then sack up & tell the coach he didn't earn one from you!

That may be the problem, the instructor obviously sacked up and didn't change the grade, that prompted Flood to ask, 'is there anymore he can do'. There would be no reason to ask that question if Barnwell got the grade he needed and was eligible.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

What's wrong about a college coach contacting a professor?

When I read "rules violation," I thought it would be something really serious.

No friggin' kidding! -- when I heard "inappropriate contact with a faculty member..." I was thinking.......


such a non-issue, normal nj.com b.s.

 

[BOGDANOVICH]

That's why coaches shouldn't be contacting professors. If Barnwell was already given the opportunity to raise the grade and fell short then he is ineligible, period. Flood asking, 'is there anything more he can do' really puts the professor in an awkward situation. Does he make an exception for Barnwell, which is clearly a violation or does he say no and get viewed as an enemy of the program. Flood should've never contacted him, let alone ask that question.

That is precisely why Flood contacting the professor is inappropriate.

 

[MADHAT1]

That is precisely why Flood contacting the professor is inappropriate.

But not as big of a problem as it was made out to be

 

[RUtix4me]

So let's see Flood contacts a prof and is in hot water...Franklin contacts an assault victim and is still coaching, USC's coach is plastered in public..still coaching....UNC fakes grades on 3,000 athletes......ok lets get some perspective here