My son played football baseball and lacrosse growing up. Was very difficult playing baseball and lacrosse at same time but we made it work. When he got to HS I had hoped he would play football and lacrosse but he only wanted to play one sport so he could focus on what he needed to.
If your kids FAVORITE sports to practice and play don’t fall ideally for the coaches, that’s their problem, not your sons😊
But we haven’t even discussed school work in this thread. If a kid plays an in season sport and gets home late. They need to get homework done, eat dinner, and get sleep. Its tough to do all that to wake up for 6 AM workout.
A kid asking a parent for extra work is MUCH different that a parent or coach making that extra work mandatory.
curious, how in touch with school boards are you? I know they are not all the same but some of the shit you get to is absolutely this and it's mind numbing
nailed them both! parents are the root cause of 90% of the issues here but I will say, the parents also keeps some coaches in check but there needs to be more balance.
Most of the posts are good. Posts where politically obsessed people vomit their whacky ideologically-programmed BS are not good. That's what the CE board is for.
prepare to be surprised
it's clear you really have no idea what your're talking about here and are adding nothing to the conversation. I would recommend getting some perspective on school boards and how they operate before opining. respectfully
A coach can limit playing time (in smaller school-systems where there are more available spots on teams than players who want to play) or by not selecting a player (in large school-systems where there are more players than available spots)? Either way, there's no need for a mandate. The coach plays the players who do what they want.
How many thousands of school boards are there across the country. You saying you know the exact ideological composition of all those school boards and know where each of the school board members comes down on the issue being discussed in this thread?
I just want both of my sons to enjoy and love whatever their passions are. And I am going to be involved to support and not be a parent goggle parent.
That is an oversimplification. Sometimes there are just not enough hours in the day for their demands. It is very hard for modern athletes to get everything one and stay healthy and sleep etc.
Nothing is “mandatory”. They can’t even make you go to practice in season if you don’t want to. Even in the article the coach used the word expectations….
I mean I know you do this for a living so I’m not going to say you are wrong but I am/have lived it with 3 kids and cosch as well. All the disciplined kids seem tog eat it done. All the kids who don’t “have enough time” are the same kids who have an excuse for everything.
The issues I see is when kids are in multiple AP classes with a ton of work attached to that.
Yes they do. Now go ask how many teens that don’t play sports what time they go to bed. Just because they need it doesn’t mean they are getting it. That goes for non athletes as well.
I know every kids is different but
I’m sorry for you that you have to deal with pain-in-the-ass parents. But relevant to the topic of this thread the opinion expressed in the post you replied to demonstrates why it is that school boards and administrations have to step in at times and take control and responsibilities away from overzealous coaches.
Its a pendulum. The extremes will eventually balance out for a positive situation, hopefully.
whats overzealous about the expectation that a HS athlete will lift weights and train?
I think they were referring to some of the extreme situations brought up here of coaches forcing kids out of other sports to prepare or specialize in one sport.
I know coaches who have directly told kids to quit other sports to prepare for an upcoming season, or they have no shot at playing in college if they do not quit other sports.
This- everything is stupid. You are a High School HC. The players and their families owe you their time during the season. Offer them tge opportunity to workout off season and work with the coaches but to make it mandatory is BS. Our son was pretty good in football in HS…he was also an all state basketball player.
were they right? Sometimes honesty hurts. and this isn't exactly new. Over 30 years ago I had a HS baseball coach tell me "your a nice little ball player but your future is football. Don't even bother trying out for baseball because I will cut you. Go lock yourself in the weight room, nobody gives a scholarship to 130lb football player"
Honestly no they were not right. I am all for honest conversations, but only when they benefit the kid and not a coach just worrying about how successful their season is going to be.
This idea that kids need to 'Play in College' is such a scam. Kids are....kids. They have NO IDEA what it even means to go to college yet, and what it means to play a sport in college as opposed to not playing a sport. And the parents often have no idea either, because most of them didn't play a sport in college either. Here in Mass in the hockey world I see parents and kids spending stupid money and doing so many stupid things just to try to get their kid on a college roster....and in the rare cases when they succeed only to find out it's a lousy fit and the kid hates it and leaves after a year. Or worse gets told to pack their bags. The college coaches chew kids up and spit them out. But families keep doing it because they just can't fight off the competitive need to get that validation of landing a roster spot.
oh I'm not doubting that, my earlier posts state as much but I think it's more prevalent that kids are forced to choose vs being told this or that is all
Older one played HS
Agree 100%. Luckily, I haven't had any experiences were a coach willfully lied to a kid about their future. I've seen some HS soccer coaches say some dumb stuff but I don't think it had malicious intent. Just uninformed
It's not a scam if it's what the kid really wants. Would you say getting into an Ivy league college is such a scam. I can't see why those parents would pay for tutors, SAT classes, services to help with essays and applications!
