Right, he's still questioning Crackers provenance. And still exaggerating critique with terms like hate, ripping, etc. The only person I saw that used the word hate was SJNJ. No one here said they hate Nick.
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I would never say I hated Nick. I always liked him when he was here and enjoyed talking with him at practice and before and after meets. I was disappointed when he took off and hoped he would wrestle for us starting Jan 2021 before trying out for the Olympic team.
As other have stated I don't hate the Surianos
I dont know where you're getting this idea that I do. What I do know is that you're a mentally unhinged wacko, who offers absolutely zero insight to any of the wrestlers abilities or progress. You still going on and on about the fact that I said I was this sophomore student, because I didn't want people to know who I was? If there's anybody who insults people it's you. People who usually do that, are cowards who have 0 achievements. And I'm not talking about wrestling. I'm talking about just in life. I stand by my convictions with the Surianos. They care for nobody but themselves, and are in the sport for financial gain. They went to the college that was the highest bidder.
Highest bidder hmmmm.. canāt really blame them then.. they gotta do whatās best for them financially.. I think most people would do the same but w/o all the fu and disrespect or w.e happened.
I disagree with you. This whole niil thing is getting out of control. Theres got to be a point where you teach your kids that you have to love the sport regardless of financial gain
No way. You can hate the NIL thing but thatās not the athletes fault. How many of us here would pass up the opportunity for a significant pay increase to do the same job at a different company? Loyalty comes with a price.
If Iām making 100k at a job and some other company comes in and says Iāll pay you 102k, well yeah Iāll probably pass on that assuming I like the place I work at. But if someone says hey come work for us, weāre going to give you 500k, Iād be gone before my shift was over. Thatās just life.
If NS did go to the highest bidder, good for him. I just we would have had an NIL fund big enough to match it!
Exactly. If we were in a better position to throw out money, no one would be complaining about it. The landscape has changed so our program has to adapt. If it benefits the kids then Iām all for it.
This is a little different. All the rhetoric of "coming home", "repping my home state", etc has gone by the wayside for $$. Amateur, collegiate athletics is quickly becoming a professional sport thanks to the NIL. That is what sours me most.
Yup. So for those who want to see Rutgers landing more elite wrestlers, good luck. Just remember you also think going to the highest bidder is a-okay. I'm old-fashioned and believe in things like loyalty. Doing the right thing is often not what is financially best for you. I've mentioned principle before and was criticized by people who didn't seem to understand the concept.
Tbh I hope college wrestlers can make some money.. itās the toughest sport and, for many, after college thereās no more wrestling..
I canāt speak for wrestling because itās not a top tier sport but many of the top football and basketball recruits were already going to the highest bidder. Just look at how many coaches and teams have gotten in trouble for recruiting violations. It happens annually.
Yes, I know. Now it's just more transparent and in some cases makes me shake my head and throw up my hands.
You have me confused with someone else. I am in your camp and have never said such a thing. The problem going forward, is society will accept this NIL stuff more and more and the honorable/loyalist mindsets will fade into the wind.
Thatās true but you certainly canāt blame the kids for taking the best deal ..they donāt make the rules ..they just take advantage of them the same way any of us would ..you can say all you want about loyalty but thatās a bunch of crap especially now when a school would easily demote their starter if an All American wanted to transfer in ...where was the loyalty for Billy Janzer ...it works both ways
I got you on part of this. They certainly don't make the rules, but in today's society will utilize the rules to their advantage. It is what it is, today's generation will chase the $$ in an amateur sport. Sounds kinda funny, right? As far as Jazer, I doubt Bulsak came to Rutgers for a high flier, NIL deal. He wanted to wrestle in the best conference against the best wrestlers. Bring in more competition. That's where Rutgers should be setting their sights. Bring in the best and let them fight for a spot. I'm all about competition, devotion to your team/teammates and loyalty. If this is Suriano, he just whored himself out to a midwestern team far, far away from "repping his home state" and "coming home to NJ". That's just me though.
It is the way I worded it. While I replied to your post as in agreement, I then said "...for those who want...". I was addressing the disconnect between wanting blue-chip wrestlers at Rutgers while also supporting the monetization of talent. The NIL thing has definitely resulted in some unintended consequences and I predict it will get some needed attention and modification. If not, the talent imbalance will worsen and the kids' ethical values will be corrupted.
You earn your right to compete, dumbbell! That doesn't mean they're entitled to be paid for it. You want to get paid and compensated graduate from college. Until then be humble and compete with honor. I come from the old school process you work hard and good things will come to you. If they don't you work twice as hard. Money and fame, doesn't cut it in my book.
I wasnāt saying anything about an NIL deal for Bulsak ...itās was the loyalty thing guys here say the kids should have ...where is the loyalty from the school to a guy like Janzer etc ..thatās my point ..donāt knock a kid if he chooses a better deal and goes somewhere else when the team doesnāt show the same loyalty if they find someone they think is better and bring him in ....there is no right or wrong here ..itās the nature of todayās sports..
Your just pissed they didnt offer you a better deal ...todayās sports is all about the money ..get over it ...the kid got a better deal ..enough said !
The Surianoās turned down offers well over $200 k. Crackers, I will take you up on your bet. I bet you $100 that Nicky Suriano wins the 125 NCAAs if he wrestles in it!
Suriano is def favored but is he a fav still against the whole field oddsā¦ itās prolly pretty close if thereās no problems cutting 125
Harley
You know I am a multifaceted renaissance man. What do you think I have been doing these past 8ā years my man? See you Thursday
You know I am a multifaceted renaissance man. What do you think I have been doing these past 8ā years my man? See you Thursday
Bill that's what I'm talkin about, a Gambling Man. Okay let's make the bet. I got a hundred bucks Suriano will not win it. It will be either Vito or Glory.
Day off. He will wrestle next Friday/Sunday against Indiana and Michigan State. Medley will tech the Nebraska kid
