Syracuse has 3 commits?
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You two would be better served trying to keep your commits from escaping to G5 schools:joy:
lol you act like Fogg is the only linebacker in the country that can play linebacker. Rutgers fans are hilarious. They think everyone wants to just recruit their targets. lol.
This isn't typical at all what are you talking about? I think Flood had 5 NJ commits last year. Ash already has over 10. A lot of schools fill up the bulk of their roster with 3 star kids. Michigan state does it, Wisconsin does it. Are you saying that a 3 star recruit is a Flood type recruit? That's ridiculous.
This isn't anything like a Flood class. You're wrong on so many levels.
Don't forget to invite all the Syracuse recruits that will sign their LOI, that way you might have a threesome.
But more than likely you'll be saying:
I agree but the guys keep making SU relevant. They cant stop responding to me. Its hilarious
Typical meaning Flood would start the class with a bunch of mediocre NJ commits. Then rivals would slap on a 3 star on them even through they have FCS and maybe 1 or 2 P5 offers. Flood's problem was he couldnt hold on to them. He couldnt land a few 4 stars. The only difference is Ash is able to get 4 decent commits that Flood might have had trouble getting. I still think Melton and Clark would have came to Rutgers if Flood was still the coach. So that leaves Bowles and Fogg. Everyone else is just ok. Nothing special. Ash didnt have to win any recruiting battles with them because they wanted to stay home and play in the big ten. Easy gets. The difference in filling up your class with 3 stars is coaching. Those schools have proven coaches the can do more with little. SU had mostly 3 stars if you want to go by that. Thats how it was last year and it will be this year when all said and done. Doesnt mean we are going to be good on the field. You have to coach them up and develop them, Thats the challenge. Too bad you cant win games with stars from recruiting sites. The real battle is on the field.
EDIT An Asbury Park Native, who descended to Maryland while in the sixth grade, Fogg visits the area every other weekend as he has various family members there.Hence, Rutgers isn't too far away as he only travels 45 minutes from his Jersey shore getaway, to get there.
Sounds like this kid want to play home and wants his family to see him play. Im less impressed now. So he's really another jersey recruit.
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No one wants you to be impressed over RU's recruiting, basically doubt anyone really cares anymore after seeing how you are a little jealous of what Ash is accomplishing in his first year compared to how the new Syracuse FB HC is doing.
Seems like you want us to be impressed with what Syracuse got and are trying to downplay RU recruiting in order to do so.
Give it your best shot and be sure to blame your constant returning to this thread on someone else instead of just admitting you feel the need to stick up for your Orange and that's why you keep returning to this thread.
I don't mind that you do, I'm having a good time seeing you try to act like nothing bothers you, but showing some frustration about what's being said in your replies:grimace:
The link I posted before wasn't that flattering for Orange commits, but another suite does have Syracuse with four 3 stars, three 2 stars and two NRs.
Still nothing to brag about, but you can try [winking]
Really? So you're saying that only 4 of our recruits are any good. Dude listen to yourself. You don't think Johnathan Lewis is any good? You don't think Jonathan Taylor is any good. He runs a 4.42 40 as a junior in high school. Pretty much every single media outlet is impressed with our recruiting. Yeah it's not Ohio State level but it's pretty good for Rutgers and would be even better for Syracuse considering NY state is a recruiting dust field. Pretty much every media outlet has Syracuse's class last or second to last in the ACC. If anyone has Flood level recruits right now it's Syracuse. You even have a Don Bosco QB like Gary Nova.
You have no idea if Melton and Clark come to Rutgers with Flood. If past years tell us anything that certainly is not the case. Flood missed on several RU legacies. Even if this class falls to the late 30s, it's still better than any class Flood had and better than any class Syracuse has had in the past 15 years.
Dismissing our class because it has a lot of NJ kids doesn't even make any sense. We want NJ kids to stay here because NJ high school football is great and there are a good 35 kids who can play power 5 football. NY state has maybe 10.
I'm sorry but if you think that syracuse didn't want fogg, im assuming you're smoking crystal meth out of a hookers asshole.
Really? Invite Kyle Flood to your party then because he seems to bring the decommitts up. I am not gloating over recruiting in June I'm stating a fact: Ash is doing well on the recruiting trail at the moment. Better than we have seen in the past 4 years, that's for certain. Deny it, dispute it, spin it any way you'd like. That's the fact at this moment in time.
If you start with the 2016 class and go back to Flood's first class (2012) Rutgers on average finished higher than Syracuse. Syracuse highest ranked class during that time was 50th (247sports & scout). Meanwhile, Rutgers had a class ranked 24th/25th & 31st (247sports, rivals & scout) one year and other years they had classes ranked 43rd and again 31st. Even with all the decommits Rutgers somehow did better than Syracuse in recruiting. I know that's a hard pill to swallow for their fans.
This thread should come to an end, just like SU football. They are not worth talking or worrying about
My man its because NJ has 3 times better players than NY. SU doesnt have that luxury. They have to go outside the state. All Rutgers have to do is get about 8-10 3 star jersey kids in the class and you will probably have a higher ranked class than SU. Im not impressed.
lol over recruiting? Thats exactly why rutgers is not good on the field. That type of attitude right there. lol You guys put too much emphasis on recruiting. Not that actual game.
While I agree that coaching and player development is more crucial, especially at the college level, you need the horses to be in the race in the first place. We haven't gotten a lot of those horses over the past 3-4 classes.
Yes us message board people directly impact game results with our thoughts on recruiting.
Right now on the syracusefan.com board their fans are having a little meltdown about Fogg and possibly Jon Lovett commitment to Rutgers to be announced tomorrow. I love how the SU staff just stop recruiting certain players once it became clear they had no real shot at them. Any players who commits to a school outside of Rutgers is a good player and SU will continue to go after them. Plus the SU fans respect them. Now when it comes to players committing to Rutgers SU staff deems them as not SU type of player or is that the fans' response to hide their anger?[winking] Anyway, hate doesn't change what is happening right now.
lol those guys dont know who the staff are targeting. I wouldnt rely on them for info. Thats not a paid forum. No insider information.
I agree Clark Bowles Melton and Fogg look like they can be horses but here is no guarantees once you are on campus. The star stuff is out the door. Coaching takes over
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Do you care to explain the pending commitment from Dakota Davis (2 star) from Maryland. He has offers from Lehigh, Holy Cross, Ohio, Old Dominion and Syracuse. SU is his best offer. You talked sh*t abot some of Rutgers current recruits having no real offers outside of Rutgers and look what SU just landed. Here are the offers for some of the SU commits:
Sharod Johnson- Middle Tenn., Toledo, Florida Atlantic and SU
Zach Morton- Eastern Mich., Western Mich., Toledo, Bowling Green and SU
Nykeim Johnson- Bowling Green, Bucknell, Towson, Charlotte, Robert Morris, Delaware and SU. Johnson does have interest from Virginia and Maryland, but no official offer.
Syracuse has 2 recruits with P5 offers. The others have mostly FCS and G5 offers at best.
Do you care to explain the pending commitment from Dakota Davis (2 star) from Maryland. He has offers from Lehigh, Holy Cross, Ohio, Old Dominion and Syracuse. SU is his best offer. You talked sh*t abot some of Rutgers current recruits having no real offers outside of Rutgers and look what SU just landed. Here are the offers for some of the SU commits:
Sharod Johnson- Middle Tenn., Toledo, Florida Atlantic and SU
Zach Morton- Eastern Mich., Western Mich., Toledo, Bowling Green and SU
Nykeim Johnson- Bowling Green, Bucknell, Towson, Charlotte, Robert Morris, Delaware and SU. Johnson does have interest from Virginia and Maryland, but no official offer.
Syracuse has 2 recruits with P5 offers. The others have mostly FCS and G5 offers at best.
SU didn't make Lovett's final cut. That program is just a mess when it comes to recruiting NY and NJ. They just aren't respected. When you're the worst team in the Power 5 that's what happens.
Btw, has anyone followed Ted Field lately? This dude cut weight from 325 to 285 and looks like a beast. He got rid of the hillbilly clothes and shaved. He now has offers from Florida Atlantic, UConn and a few others. Good for him.
No. We don't actually. It's the idea that perhaps you lost out that's what's bothering you. And it also bothers you that at this point, since it's already late June, you should have more than, gulp, 3 or 4 commits. Just sayin.
Oh and btw, aren't you disturbed that you used to get SOME recruits from NJ?
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Shouldn't you / the Cuse go play with the Finger Lakes....they're bigger than Donald's hands.
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None of those are updated. Rivals dont have any of there recent commits. dakota davis was a camp commit. So i trust the staff on that one. Rutgers dont have commits with those type if offers? dont say you dont
My point was you ripped Rutgers for having commits like this. You acted as if SU was above this. The facts are SU will not have too many shots at quality recruits because more and more commit earlier in the process now. SU is not recruiting on the same level they were 2 or 3 years ago. I recall several SU fans mocking Rutgers when they were fighting the likes of Buffalo, Fla. Atlantic and Lehigh for recruits under Flood. That seems to be the case for SU now with at least half the recruiting class.
Bottom line, you got recruits, and we got recruits ( we just have more, and better prospects). At the end of the day, or cycle, enjoy yours, and we'll enjoy ours. The bottom line is that, you can barely recruit within the state anymore, and quite bluntly, you WERE of interest, and now your not. End of story and facts.
Good luck next season, and pray for more recruits.
Good luck next season, and pray for more recruits.
@cubuffsdoug I never said we dont get these types of recruits. lol. Im not on this forum bragging about SU commits. This thread was started by one of you related to the amount of commits we have. That has changed dramatically. Morton is severely under rated on rivals. He has Pitt , Iowa st and Cincy offers as well. Sharod Johnson has Purdue Ilinois and Temple offers as well. So really isnt that bad. Dakota Davis is the one reach but like I said, it was a camp offer.
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Bottom line, you have way more prospects in NJ. So the probability of landing NJ players are high. NY has 5 per year that is really good and they leave because they have offers from Big time schools. The rest of the prospects are average to below average. Cuse doesnt go after them that hard. The leave the state to get more talented kids. So like I said, you are doing what you are suppose to do.
The rest of the prospects are average to below average....
Where exactly are you from? Because you sound like a Monday morning QB.
Where exactly are you from? Because you sound like a Monday morning QB.
I never said we dont get these types of recruits. lol. Im not on this forum bragging about SU commits. This thread was started by one of you relating the amount of commits. That has changed dramatically. Morton is severely under rated on rivals. He has Pitt , Iowa st and Cincy offers as well. Sharod Johnson has Purdue Ilinois and Temple offers as well. So really isnt that bad. Dakota Davis is the one reach but like I said, it was a camp offer.[/QUOTE]
So you're pointing out how some of SU commits have better offers than what is listed. The same could be said for Rutgers recruits. Just as we don't know the in and outs of SU recruiting you have no clue about Rutgers, so for you to sit here and belittle Rutgers recruiting is f*cking silly. You can't have your cake and eat too. Bottom line, all the experts have agreed Rutgers has out recruiting SU the last few years and it doesn't matter how you spin it because facts are facts. Under Flood, who was great Rutgers went 9-4, 6-7, 8-5 and 4-8. Meanwhile, SU during the same time went 8-5, 7-6, 3-9 and 4-8. SU is trending the wrong way both in on the field performance and recruiting.
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