Not only is it possible to build your team from the portal, it how many sweet 16 teams quickly got better…
The new way to build teams
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Time to pony up. Unless you are elite level blue bloods, players will most likely follow the trail of freshly printed Benjamins. The highest bidders will have the best chance.
Pony up what?😊
Are you talking about paying players for appearances and endorsements….If so I completely agree!
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I will be a life long RU BB fan, but I look at everything a bit differently now
It would take a lot for me to now appreciate a player and his coming here, and it would be a more, after the fact appreciation, after they have stood by the program
Most of that is gone..... We have a player who cries on senior night........ Then enters the portal.....
.another who swears to stay, the family loves the program.......portal
Yet
We have graduated players who return after 45 years and get honored for their accomplishments, and four years of play
We won't see much of that anymore, it is a shame
It would take a lot for me to now appreciate a player and his coming here, and it would be a more, after the fact appreciation, after they have stood by the program
Most of that is gone..... We have a player who cries on senior night........ Then enters the portal.....
.another who swears to stay, the family loves the program.......portal
Yet
We have graduated players who return after 45 years and get honored for their accomplishments, and four years of play
We won't see much of that anymore, it is a shame
This is what I will miss most about the pre-portal era — players who stay all four years, graduate, and become a lifelong part of the Rutgers Family.
Now we’ll be lucky if a player stays two years, and even then, will we think of them the same way we think of James Bailey, Eddie Jordan, Roy Hinson, Rick Dadika, Geoff Billet, Quincy Douby, Herve Lamizana, Myles Mack, Geo Baker, Ron Harper Jr., Caleb McConnell, Myles Johnson, and yes Cliff Omoruyi (who stayed 4 years)?
I suppose the players who transfer IN and stay for multiple years could still resonate, especially if they do something special. I’m thinking of former transfers-in who we all think of as Rutgers guys, like Tom Savage, Keith Hughes, Earl Duncan, Jerome Coleman, and maybe Jacob Young.
Not looking forward to seeing rosters lose 6 or more players every single year.
The old adage is also still true. Get old and stay old… just a new way of doing it.
We have one year left of the players who had the covid bonus 5th year, so these older players will filter out after the 2024-25 season. There will still be transfers but the 23, 24 or even 25 year old players will be much less.
I will add John Battle. Battle was one of Ru's 10 top players according to the Big Ten.
Derek Simpson stayed 2 years and fans can't get rid of him fast enough to bring in a transfer upgrade.
You’re missing the point between being successful and having a team that you actually care about
We all know about NIL and I will not be helping
Unfortunately HC Pike did not want everyone to stay.
He recruited 5 freshman for 3 open scholarships.
Regardless of how much anyone wanted to run it back with GG, Chol, Simpson, Woolf, Mag and Clif - HC Pike needed 2 of them gone.
100% fair take and I don’t blame anyone who doesn’t believe in NIL or giving to it.
But for those that feel this way…will you also criticize Pike for poor recruiting/transfers out/lack of impact transfers in?
This is correct. If you don’t like NIL and don’t want to contribute, that’s okay. Just don’t expect a competitive team.
It's a very fine line though . For instance Bacot got a huge nil deal and came back nowhere near as effective as he was the previous two years. Did it take away some of his competive edge who knows ? Coaches are going to really earn their money going forward.
You don’t think UConn fans care about their team?
Those guys are worshipped up in Stoors
Thus is big time, major D1 hoops
The name of the game is winning - Period
It’s fine if you won’t be donating to NIL
I will
As will many others
And I guarantee if we start winning and raising championship banners due to NIL, you and a host of others who refuse donate will absolutely change your tune
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If you want to win, donate
If you’re ok with losing, don’t
To me, losing isn’t fun
And we’ve done entirely too much of it during my lifetime
Appearances and endorsement money I can see but much of the shuffling now a days will be about bidding wars for the services of players with bags of cash. If a team isnt a blue blood, attractive destination, it's going to be about the money and who will pay the most.
We will care about winning, without caring about the parts, because the parts don’t care about anything but money
We start raising banners & those parts will become legends, regardless of how they got here
I actually won’t blame any coach who cannot succeed in this new environment
He, like many coaches, was hired to sell the school, the team, the program
Now, coaches have to be used car salesmen
I would not blame Pike if he is not built that way
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I stand by what I have said
I will care about winning but not the parts so much
No matter what you say, something is surely lost
Are the coaches included in those "parts"?
They get paid.
Do they only care about money since they are getting paid to participate?
How many of them are coaching "for the love of the game"?
HC Schiano just got a raise halfway through a 8 year contract.
Duh......Only our bad players should be allowed to transfer (Simpson, Jalen Miller, Chol).
Our good players shouldn't be allowed to.
Except for other teams. Their good players should be allowed to transfer to Rutgers with no restrictions
Unfortunately we don’t have a tradition of winning big in any sport, ever
If we get to that point, I guarantee most people won’t care what it took or what it costs to get to that level
All that will matter is winning and continuing to win - everything else will vs a distant second to that goal
If we get to that point, I guarantee most people won’t care what it took or what it costs to get to that level
All that will matter is winning and continuing to win - everything else will vs a distant second to that goal
If you couple a bag of money with a contract that says you return the money if you enter the portal or opt out of an earned post season bowl game, I’d think about contributing.
Still, for many, we would hope it is more than just business
I could switch and root for pro teams if I wanted to root for players that are just bought short term
The coaching part was always about money, with some loyalty at times, where some coaches would stay for decades, others jump at moving up and for money
I don’t think that point furthers the issue about the problem with players
The main problem with college basketball is the constant turmoil
I contend it is not good for college basketball
Coaching is a chosen profession, it has nothing to do with players.
I don’t care what coaches do, they also get their walking papers on the regular.
If a coach chooses to leave, his recruited players can also leave if they choose, many of them might like the new coach more and decide to stay
Feel free to do so but can't blame working folks for not doing so. NIL was intended to provide students opportunities to use their name, image and likeness to make money. It has instead just become pay to play. If you can provide that opportunity, that is great for these kids. But to ask people to flat out pay the kids to just play for the school, and that too, on a one year rental many times, that ain't college anymore. Is in fact beyond pro sports where fans don't pay direct except through ticket sales and unlike pro sports there are no contractual obligations by any of these kids.
"Hey, why isn't anyone getting blood out of that stone yet?" <--- NIL proponents in the Rutgers fanbase
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Make a sweet 16 or win a conference title , those players will come back and get honored. Even if they attend just 1 semester at rutgers. And we will be happy to honor them
You know it's only been out a short time, right?
And eventually, hopefully sometime soon, it'll be regulated (to a certain extent), right?
We get it
You don't like NIL
I, on the other hand, do
Others, like me, do
I see the benefits
I realize our potential
And I truly believe we can achieve an elite level with a proper implementation
You, and a host of others, are ok with being mediocre
I, and a plethora of others, aren't
That's the main difference
There's excuses, and then there's winning
I'll take the latter 8 days a week
Respectfully, that's an excuse and always has been
NIL is $10 / month
I'd venture to say 99 % of this board can afford that
If you're against it, that's fine
Some will never adapt, and that's ok
But the whole working folks schict is old and worn out
Every fan base has fans that work
Some just want to win more than others
It's always been a business
Guys go where the scholarship is
I love Caleb, but he wasn't coming from Jacksonville to the Banks if we didn't offer
He wasn't a lifelong, die hard Rutgers fan that was willing to walk on to fulfill his dream of playing here
The business part of it is now much more out in the open, and without regulation of some sort, will ultimately be the demise of the sport
