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THE OFFICIAL 2024-2025 NET RANKINGS THREAD

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Its very early so there is going to be alot of wackiness though it is useful to see some trends especially with respect to schedule strentgh. There will certainly be some sort of ridiculous small school outlier in the top 30 and some major school languishing in the 200 range.

I think Oregon fans will be quite pleased
 
Its very early so there is going to be alot of wackiness though it is useful to see some trends especially with respect to schedule strentgh. There will certainly be some sort of ridiculous small school outlier in the top 30 and some major school languishing in the 200 range.

I think Oregon fans will be quite pleased
Unranked Oregon at 8-0, with wins over 2 Top 20 teams and a solid SDSU team all at a neutral site.

Top 10 in NET?
 
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Unranked Oregon at 8-0, with wins over 2 Top 20 teams and a solid SDSU team all at a neutral site.

Top 10 in NET?
I realize the first NET will seem wacky, but undefeated Oregon at #15, 2 spots below 2-loss Alabama, who they beat?
 
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Bottom line Bailey and Harper will receive plenty of positive media attention but Rutgers will be evaluated based on wins and losses and the level of competition.Losing to Kennesaw State was a very bad loss similar to Lafayette in a previous season.With a quarter of the regular season already played Rutgers better go on a long winning streak starting with a road game against Ohio State.
 
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That’s worse! Kenpom also has a 3-loss Houston at #5. Wacky early days. (At least it shows Rutgers at #70 which seems about right)
Kenpom still has preseason expectations in there which is contributing, and NET shouldn't have any of that. But especially later in the season you will see that NET and Kenpom are very, very similar.
 
I really hope we don’t sit squarely on the bubble all season. Hopefully, at some point we string together wins and get ourselves comfortably in the tourney. I hate sweating it out and hoping to be one of the last 4 teams in or worse being one of last teams left out. Hopefully, the team builds on some of the positives we have seen and the role players/transfers contribute more to help string together Q1/Q2 wins. Notre Dame is 97 so for now it’s a Q2 win, Kennesaw is 143 so that is a Q3 loss, hopefully they have a good year and that loss never even sniffs becoming a Q4 or on the positive Kennesaw moves up to 135 and it would be a Q2 loss. OSU is 12 so another chance at a Q1 next game. Seton Hall is 200 so that’s a Q4 game at the moment, didn’t see that coming (they’re awful this year), can’t lose that game.
 
It’s early …but we need a 5-0 December for the psyche and metrics

It fixes the record (2-0/10-3) and probably lands the net back around 55 on January 1st

Ohio state game is a huge swing game for us on Saturday

And after the last week, I feel pretty good about our chances in Columbus.
 
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Unfortunately, it seems we always stub our toe with a bad loss or two early in the season and need some big wins later to climb out of the hole we've dug. Hope we don't have to sweat out selection Sunday.
 
Ultimately, we’re in a pretty similar position metrics wise, and in terms of the early Q3 loss, to the ‘19-‘20 season. And while we really only felt safe after @Purdue, that was due more to a 2-6 record in February and inability to win on the road than any irreparable early season damage.

Biggest differences are that the opportunity for a marquee OOC win like ‘19-‘20 has come and gone, unless ND can really get it cooking with Burton back, a greater number of total losses with the Vegas tourney and that brutal stretch of Q3 landmines in late December.
 
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Ultimately, we’re in a pretty similar position metrics wise, and in terms of the early Q3 loss, to the ‘19-‘20 season. And while we really only felt safe after @Purdue, that was due more to a 2-6 record in February and inability to win on the road than any irreparable early season damage.

Biggest differences are that the opportunity for a marquee OOC win like ‘19-‘20 has come and gone, unless ND can really get it cooking with Burton back, a greater number of total losses with the Vegas tourney and that brutal stretch of Q3 landmines in late December.
I agree we are in a very similar spot to where we were in 19-20 after the Pitt loss on the road. Following that game, and a road loss to a very good Michigan State team, the 2019-20 Rutgers was the best team in the country from 12/11 through 1/19 (https://barttorvik.com/trank.php?ye...vquad=0&quad=5&venue=All&type=All&mingames=0#) on the strength of an adjusted defensive efficiency of an absurd 79.1.
 
Unfortunately, it seems we always stub our toe with a bad loss or two early in the season and need some big wins later to climb out of the hole we've dug. Hope we don't have to sweat out selection Sunday.
Agreed, but if Kennesaw is our worst loss then that’s not too bad. Right now, Kennesaw is closer to being a Q2 than it is being a Q4. If I had to predict, I think that loss finishes as a Q3. If we stack enough Q1/Q2 wins (let’s say 10 of them from Big 10 play) to go with other Q3 wins we will pick up the rest of the way then we should comfortably be in the tourney. If our only bad loss is a Kennesaw Q3 loss, then that’s not a bad resume. The keys are don’t lose to any of the other remaining Q4/Q3 teams left, AND stack enough Q1/Q2 wins and RU will be in. Without the Q1/Q2 wins we won’t get in so that’s the place for RU to start with two opportunities in December, OSU and Penn State.
 
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I agree we are in a very similar spot to where we were in 19-20 after the Pitt loss on the road. Following that game, and a road loss to a very good Michigan State team, the 2019-20 Rutgers was the best team in the country from 12/11 through 1/19 (https://barttorvik.com/trank.php?ye...vquad=0&quad=5&venue=All&type=All&mingames=0#) on the strength of an adjusted defensive efficiency of an absurd 79.1.
Man that’s a really remarkable stat. Obviously can’t expect to replicate that sort of dominance, but they were the 43rd best team from 1/19 to the end of the year, somewhere in between should be enough to get us dancing, provided we don’t slip up in December or against Washington
 
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Agreed, but if Kennesaw is our worst loss then that’s not too bad. Right now, Kennesaw is closer to being a Q2 than it is being a Q4. If I had to predict, I think that loss finishes as a Q3. If we stack enough Q1/Q2 wins (let’s say 10 of them from Big 10 play) to go with other Q3 wins we will pick up then we should comfortably be in the tourney. If our only bad loss is a Kennesaw Q3 loss, then that’s not a bad resume. The keys are don’t lose to any of the other remaining Q4/Q3 teams left, AND stack enough Q1/Q2 wins and RU will be in. Without the Q1/Q2 wins we won’t get in so that’s the place for RU to start with two opportunities in December, OSU and Penn State.
I think if we dont sweep seton hall, princeton, columbia it becomes a very very tough path to even get an ncaa tourney bid. Critically important games
 
I think if we dont sweep seton hall, princeton, columbia it becomes a very very tough path to even get an ncaa tourney bid. Critically important games
Agreed, a minimum of 4-1 record with at least a PSU win to go with the three OOC is the minimum they need. Obviously 5-0 in December would really have the bus flying down the highway. But I think they need at least 4-1. They would be 9-4 with 18 games in the BIG remaining, with a lot of Q1/Q2 opportunities. December does not have many games on the schedule, but it is critical to get the bus started and moving in the right direction with no bad losses and pick up at least a Q2 or Q1 win.
 
Agreed, but if Kennesaw is our worst loss then that’s not too bad. Right now, Kennesaw is closer to being a Q2 than it is being a Q4. If I had to predict, I think that loss finishes as a Q3. If we stack enough Q1/Q2 wins (let’s say 10 of them from Big 10 play) to go with other Q3 wins we will pick up the rest of the way then we should comfortably be in the tourney. If our only bad loss is a Kennesaw Q3 loss, then that’s not a bad resume. The keys are don’t lose to any of the other remaining Q4/Q3 teams left, AND stack enough Q1/Q2 wins and RU will be in. Without the Q1/Q2 wins we won’t get in so that’s the place for RU to start with two opportunities in December, OSU and Penn State.
True. We've left ourselves with little margin for error meaning games like Seton Hall, Princeton, etc are essentially "must wins."
 
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In a year we had a chance at a decent seed, we get to spend the rest of the season worrying because pike can't beat inferior teams and hope we can sneak into the tournament.

Wonderful
 
In a year we had a chance at a decent seed, we get to spend the rest of the season worrying because pike can't beat inferior teams and hope we can sneak into the tournament.

Wonderful
There was no consensus of Rutgers being like a top-half tournament seed, KenPom and EvanMiya had Rutgers emphatically out of the tournament in their preseason projections.
 
Columbia will probably be 12-0, 2 non D1 wins, going into our game.

NET conference rankings
SEC
B12
B1G
Big East
ACC

A10
Mountain West
CUSA(Kennesaw St #143)
WCC
MVC

10 Illinois(6-1), vs
12 Ohio St(5-2), @
15 Oregon(8-0), @
16 UCLA(7-1), vs
17 Wisconsin(8-0), vs
21 Purdue(7-1), 2x
23 Maryland(7-1), @
34 Penn St(7-1), 2x
35 Michigan(6-1), 2x
41 Michigan St(6-2), MSG(H/N)
44 Nebraska(6-1), @
54 Iowa(6-1), vs
71 Indiana(5-2), @
73 Northwestern(6-2), @
86 Rutgers(5-3)
116 Washington(5-1), @
155 Minnesota(6-3), vs
169 USC(5-3), vs
 
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we need to start stacking wins. Sense of urgency needs to be sky high.
 
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There was no consensus of Rutgers being like a top-half tournament seed, KenPom and EvanMiya had Rutgers emphatically out of the tournament in their preseason projections.
Why do you think that is?
You have to do a pretty lackluster of a job in the offseason to have Harper and Bailey on your team and still have tournament experts say you’ll be on the outside looking in
 
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