The PSU Lion "roar" and bags into stadium

[alden1]

I am also surprised that there were no hand rails, at least there were none in the upper section behind the home team. That was 90 rows of bleacher seating - no seat backs or rails to hold onto while negotiating all those steps. I wouldn't be surprised if there were falls, especially going down in the rain. It was a looong way down on metal steps with a little ponding forming on the steps. I could see bubbles floating. Very unnerving, especially for some of the older people who were there.

 

[tico brown]

Consistency with security is a problem at many venues. I hope they correct that in the future. It use to be much better prior to Sandusky because it was all in house. They now require background checks and other child abuse training which cut the number of people willing to spend full day doing training on child abuse each year just to work 7 days a year. Now they have an external company who is really bad.

As for the family it was their own fault for not checking to see if the kid needed a ticket or not. The policy at Beaver Stadium has always been any one outside of the womb requires a ticket. I have seen other venues with the same rules. Why they did not check is beyond me.

What if someone delivers a baby during the game? Do they have to buy a ticket right after birth?

 

[MrsScrew]

I am also surprised that there were no hand rails, at least there were none in the upper section behind the home team. That was 90 rows of bleacher seating - no seat backs or rails to hold onto while negotiating all those steps. I wouldn't be surprised if there were falls, especially going down in the rain. It was a looong way down on metal steps with a little ponding forming on the steps. I could see bubbles floating. Very unnerving, especially for some of the older people who were there.

I was thinking the same thing as we walked down from row 80. I was happy that we left a little early and there was not a crush of people trying to get down the wet stairs, I would imagine that there have been many falls on those steps.

 

[h8ru]

Yeah, our student section rocks. Glad I didn't go over then if it wasn't you all. Luckily, aren't any pom poms where I sit.

Good grief, how can you not like the pom poms, visually, it's the best part. I was disappointed that there were no blue or white pom poms handed at the door for the stripeout. That would have been an impressive element to the stripeout.

 

[kjb32812]

Good grief, how can you not like the pom poms, visually, it's the best part. I was disappointed that there were no blue or white pom poms handed at the door for the stripeout. That would have been an impressive element to the stripeout.

Come back and make that same comment after visiting Michigan.

 

[MrsScrew]

Come back and make that same comment after visiting Michigan.

I'm going to Michigan this year. I'll report back. I thought the pom poms looked great from where I sat.

 

[kjb32812]

I'm going to Michigan this year. I'll report back. I thought the pom poms looked great from where I sat.

Were they just in the student section?

 

[MrsScrew]

Were they just in the student section?

yes. all 20,000 students had white pom poms. they would totally win the synchronized pom pom competition!

 

[kjb32812]

yes. all 20,000 students had white pom poms. they would totally win the synchronized pom pom competition!

At Michigan, it is the entire stadium. You pick them up on the way in. You know the part where they say, "hail, hail to Michigan?" Each hail is a pom pump. That being said the entire rest of the game seemed like one continuous pom pump to me.

I remember a few games where PSU had them available at the entrance but don't remember which game(s) it was. Michigan is a fantastic time though - my favorite.

 

[RCBeta79]

We tailgated with some Penn State fans that were very hospitable to us....very much like our treatment of visiting fans at Rutgers.

When we were going through Penn State Security, the Security Person was quite rude to a Rutgers Fan (woman) that had a small purse with her. He said in a nasty tone "you can go back to your car and come back...or you can toss it into the trash"!

I was very surprised at the Security person's behavior....this nice woman said she wanted to go back to the hotel....maybe it's time for Penn State to call in an expert in "sensitivity training"....seeing the number of cars in the parking lots, they can certainly afford it.

 

[psengr82]

Ok, it seems that we have a bunch of rude security guys that need to understand that folks come to games for a good time and not to be harassed. I also seems that security should know the rules relative to bags. So instead of just bitching here why not send the AD a email with details like what happened, when and where including a description of the person if possible. Our AD is Sandy Barbour and her email address is: asb25@psu.edu

 

[CNJKnight]

There were a few thousand of us somewhere in the stratosphere up to your right.

apparently I didn't stretch my neck that high-did those seats come with oxygen? That's just wrong!

 

[Hawk Supreme]

I'm not trying to defend PSU, as I have no particular affection for them and have never attended a game there, but security/bag issues say a lot more about who we are and what our values have turned into in contemporary American society than they do about the particular policies or enforcement procedures at a specific college football venue.

 

[MrsScrew]

I'm not trying to defend PSU, as I have no particular affection for them and have never attended a game there, but security/bag issues say a lot more about who we are and what our values have turned into in contemporary American society than they do about the particular policies or enforcement procedures at a specific college football venue.

I don't think any of us are arguing the bag policy itself. I'm certainly not. What we are arguing is the random enforcement &/or not allowing bags that are clearly stated as OK in their policy.

 

[WhiteBus]

It's supposed to be annoying.... to the visitors. Don't you think "And that is a Rutgerssssss..... FIRST DOWN" is annoying to every team that steps into HPPS. But both are great to the home teams.

 

[RU205]

It's supposed to be annoying.... to the visitors. Don't you think "And that is a Rutgerssssss..... FIRST DOWN" is annoying to every team that steps into HPPS. But both are great to the home teams.

The way this offense is moving the ball I don't think the visitors are going to hear it very often.

 

[WhiteBus]

The way this offense is moving the ball I don't think the visitors are going to hear it very often.

HAHAHA, so true.

The Rutgers tradition that can get annoying is the "It's third down and X" but your continue to hear it over and over again on a long drive by the opponent, as Rutgers never gets the stop to force the team to punt.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

OUr 3rd down thing is so corny and annoying. My son has started to do it and I stare holes through him when he stands up...lol

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

We tailgated with some Penn State fans that were very hospitable to us....very much like our treatment of visiting fans at Rutgers.

When we were going through Penn State Security, the Security Person was quite rude to a Rutgers Fan (woman) that had a small purse with her. He said in a nasty tone "you can go back to your car and come back...or you can toss it into the trash"!

I was very surprised at the Security person's behavior....this nice woman said she wanted to go back to the hotel....maybe it's time for Penn State to call in an expert in "sensitivity training"....seeing the number of cars in the parking lots, they can certainly afford it.

I wish someone had video of the security persons behavior. VIDEO seems to be the only thing that generates enough outrage to create positive (or negative) results.

 

[Hawk Supreme]

I don't think any of us are arguing the bag policy itself. I'm certainly not. What we are arguing is the random enforcement &/or not allowing bags that are clearly stated as OK in their policy.

This happens all over America at literally any event of significant size.

Go show me anywhere above a local high school game where 100% of people are happy with how security enforces their seemingly arbitrary mandates.

I don't want to judge people who I've never met, and I understand that every person has their own particular needs and idiosyncracies (sp), but a fundamental tenet of attending any type of event in the current hyper-security climate of this country is to pack as light as is conceivably possibly. I never take anything into a game beyond a roster sheet and maybe a poncho or sweatshirt if the weather is iffy. And guess what: I've never had an issue with security, anywhere, ever.

I fail to understand the urge to take a "bag" of any type into a sporting event, and yes I understand that women have different needs than men and I'm not trying to offend anyone or come off as a chauvinist here. What is so incredibly important that it can't be crammed into the smallest possible container for 3 hours to avoid any potential hassles like this?

 

[JBDLion]

As someone else mentioned, gate entry became more difficult post 9/11 and the new bag policy only came into play over the last few years as the NFL went in that direction. Additionally, the security is now handled by a third-party contractor since the post-Freeh report-mandated training for even volunteers that work 7 Saturdays a year. Gone are the days of the nice volunteer retired woman taking your ticket with a smile. I would email the AD or one of her 17 or so assistant ADs and voice your displeasure with the inconsistent enforcement of the rules. The lines and slow entry process has been an increased frustration over the years. The AD and her 18 assistants (I think she hired a new one since I started typing this post) probably don't care since there's a separate entrance for the suites.

 

[MrsScrew]

This happens all over America at literally any event of significant size.

Go show me anywhere above a local high school game where 100% of people are happy with how security enforces their seemingly arbitrary mandates.

I don't want to judge people who I've never met, and I understand that every person has their own particular needs and idiosyncracies (sp), but a fundamental tenet of attending any type of event in the current hyper-security climate of this country is to pack as light as is conceivably possibly. I never take anything into a game beyond a roster sheet and maybe a poncho or sweatshirt if the weather is iffy. And guess what: I've never had an issue with security, anywhere, ever.

I fail to understand the urge to take a "bag" of any type into a sporting event, and yes I understand that women have different needs than men and I'm not trying to offend anyone or come off as a chauvinist here. What is so incredibly important that it can't be crammed into the smallest possible container for 3 hours to avoid any potential hassles like this?

well, lets see, I had a small wallet for cash and ID, tampons, binoculars, a camera, my cell phone, my medication, a rain jacket in case it rained. My bag was regulation sized and clear. and it was certainly better to have all my crap in it than to try to juggle it as we were packed into the stands. it all went into my bag and under my feet until I needed it.

 

[srru86]

I fail to understand the urge to take a "bag" of any type into a sporting event, and yes I understand that women have different needs than men

There is something to this...and not just for the ladies. AT HPSS I always wonder about the guys who are toting a portable seat, binoculars, reference materials, a hoagie, something to drink, extra sweaters, etc. and then wonder why it takes so long to get through the gates.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

There is something to this...and not just for the ladies. AT HPSS I always wonder about the guys who are toting a portable seat, binoculars, reference materials, a hoagie, something to drink, extra sweaters, etc. and then wonder why it takes so long to get through the gates.

And there is something to the idea of FREEDOM to bring in anything you want that doesn't pose a threat or inconvenience anyone. Before 911, we were more free to do what wanted to do in this regard. It is all too much now... We have gone too far the other way.

 

[WhiteBus]

And there is something to the idea of FREEDOM to bring in anything you want that doesn't pose a threat or inconvenience anyone. Before 911, we were more free to do what wanted to do in this regard. It is all too much now... We have gone too far the other way.

Tell that to all the people who have been killed in this country by fanatics since 9-11. You can stick your head in the sand and complain that they have gone too far...until something happens to you or someone you know. Than you would suing the world and screaming bloody murder that we should have done more.

 

[MrsScrew]

There is something to this...and not just for the ladies. AT HPSS I always wonder about the guys who are toting a portable seat, binoculars, reference materials, a hoagie, something to drink, extra sweaters, etc. and then wonder why it takes so long to get through the gates.

I think the lines at RU move quickly, even on a big game day. at psu, Gate E, it was like herding cattle.....all of the masses of people were sent through a small, single lane of fencing. the actual bag search did not take long, and that is not what the complaint is about. it's about the fact that I, and others, did our homework before the game to see what we could/could not bring into the game and we were still told we couldn't do it. @GoodOl'Rutgers your point is well taken, we have moved way too far the other way but it is, unfortunately a way of life for us now but if it keeps me safe I'm OK with it.

 

[Howie'81]

That wasn't a lion roar. It was a panther sound.

Same thing in this case. The Nittany Lions are named so because of the proximity of Mt. Nittany to campus and the mountain lions which once roamed the hills of Pennsylvania. These mountain lions were panthers. They were and can be called by either name. You can also call them cougars.

 

[rube1859]

Same thing in this case. The Nittany Lions are named so because of the proximity of Mt. Nittany to campus and the mountain lions which once roamed the hills of Pennsylvania. These mountain lions were panthers. They were and can be called by either name. You can also call them cougars.

Cougars are usually found at the Columns on Friday and Saturday nights between Memorial Day and Labor Day.

 

[LadyRU09]

The problem with women and bags: fashion designers don't make enough women's clothing with functional pockets. (They exist, but you have to look harder. I just bought a dress last week just because it had decent-sized pockets.) I do have cargo pants, and I got a Scottevest last year with tons of pockets that helped me avoid airline fees as well as minimized security hassles at other venues.

And searching or banning bags without metal detectors or patdowns does nothing if a nutjob smuggles a gun under clothing (like Columbine or one of the more recent movie theater shooters).

 

[psengr82]

The problem with women and bags: fashion designers don't make enough women's clothing with functional pockets. (They exist, but you have to look harder. I just bought a dress last week just because it had decent-sized pockets.) I do have cargo pants, and I got a Scottevest last year with tons of pockets that helped me avoid airline fees as well as minimized security hassles at other venues.

And searching or banning bags without metal detectors or patdowns does nothing if a nutjob smuggles a gun under clothing (like Columbine or one of the more recent movie theater shooters).

BS. Fashion Designers don't make women's clothing with big pockets because it might make your hips look larger and we can't possibly have that...can we. Men don't give a shat what your hips look like as long as you don't delay them entering the game they want to see.

 

[RU1977]

The problem with women and bags: fashion designers don't make enough women's clothing with functional pockets. (They exist, but you have to look harder. I just bought a dress last week just because it had decent-sized pockets.) I do have cargo pants, and I got a Scottevest last year with tons of pockets that helped me avoid airline fees as well as minimized security hassles at other venues.

And searching or banning bags without metal detectors or patdowns does nothing if a nutjob smuggles a gun under clothing (like Columbine or one of the more recent movie theater shooters).

Exactly this - they won't let you bring in a clear plastic Rutgers bag, but any idiot can bring in a gun in his/her pocket!!!!

I was exhausted by the the time I spent 40 minutes going back to my car in lot 26 to put the bag back into the car (had stuff from the official RU tailgate in it, plus binoculars, phone charger, and wife's stuff.

The bald heavyset security guy at Gate E was very nasty..... Welcome to our stadium - not!!!!

 

[kjb32812]

Cougars are usually found at the Columns on Friday and Saturday nights between Memorial Day and Labor Day.