I think you mean you are in the top 5%. If you were in the top .05%, you'd be one of the top 10 donors. The top 5% is in the top 1300.
Ticket Relocations
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The school might be asking for people to be pushed back a number of rows and then pay more for the honor
Not good, if so
There are always 100-level seats opening up. People move, die, or give up tickets for other reasons. But there are a lot more people interested in 100-level seats than there are seats available (especially when the team is good).
There are only 1600 seats in the 100-level. Some of those are reserved for the visiting school, our team/coaches, corporate sponsors, etc. Assuming 200 pre-reserved seats, that leaves 1400 seats available for individual fans.
If 10% of those become available each year, that is only 140 seats, or 70 pairs. That doesn't mean you need to be a top-70 donor to get 100-level seats; top-70 donors who want seats already have them. But you need to have a significant number of priority points to be on the top-70 of people asking for seats this year.
If you want 100-level seats, ask your R Fund rep what you need to do to get into those seats as they become available. (If you don't have an R Fund rep, and you are willing to open your wallet to get 100 level seats, then call the Development office and tell them you would like to talk to a rep about setting up a multi-year pledge to support Athletics.)
That doesn't make sense, but I think I know what you meant.
My point is that it would be crazy to spend hundreds of millions of dollars renovating the RAC and keeping the same capacity rather than building new, increasing capacity and maximizing profitability.
I know that's not popular here, but it's realistic.
Was told the overall renewal rate was roughly 95%. Would imagine most of that 5% was from people in 200-300 level.
I’m gonna provide some reality to this nonsense
This is the realty
You have 18 home games …and the average price is $87.50/each….
My seats are in row B, section 105….and I refuse to sell to enemy , (the people who know me will verify that ) but I pay attention to what the tickets are going in the afrrr market …
For 18 games …it’s $1575 for my ticket and SASF fee….let’s forget the extra I have to donate to get the priority points to keep my seats …and just focus on ticket sales
You have 6 games against the cupcakes and they will average $40-$45…$250
You have 6 games against the better couple of rhe out of confrnce games (let’s use wake as a comparasion …they will average $100…$850
Then for the top 6 big ten games , they will sell for like this
$125
$150
$175
$200
$250
$300
$1200
So you can get $2100 per ticket …or $115 per seat …BEFORE fees
And that doesn’t count the cost of my donation to keep the seats
The pricing is about right UNTIL the demand for the seats for the bottom 12 games is so high that they go for $100-$150 seat
Then it SHOULD be adjusted to market price (and I’ll gladly pay it because if their demand is so high , it means we are really really good )
But right now , the season tickets prices are not far out of reality ro what they would fetch in total on rhe after market
This x 10000
We've been "Good" for what, 3 - 4 years?
2 tourney appearances, 1 Covid, 1 NIT
You know a bump is coming w/the renovation
Wait until then, then it'll be justified
Doing it now reaks of greed
It's always about the $, but don't make it so odviuos, and no need to do it twice in a 5 year span for a program that recently went 30 years w/out a tourney apperance
I have a single in 113 Row E
Called nearly 10 seperate times over a few years before I got it
Was told "you're persistent but passionate" and eventualy snagged one
Buddy of mine grabbed a single across the 100's in 103 mid way up
Did the same for wrestling before I grabbed almost an identical seat but in row D
It's possible - just keep at it
I've been told this is happening. I've also been told that there are plenty of people in the 100s who have never given the university a dime over what they need to get these tickets (aka ticket brokers). They will be relocated for sure.
I disagree with the fair market value of pricing these tickets as well. Fair market value changes year over year A LOT, based on the product. You underprice the tickets somewhat, but make sure they are in the hands of the alumni that are gonna answer the bell when asked by RU.
RU probably won't get it totally right but they are gonna try. I have multiple pairs in the 100s and I was told that I'd have a very good shot to get them all together as I have a lot of PP and also have donated 5 year type donations to the B1G build and now the RAC reno.
If you are really looking to move down and have the $$$ to be generous, I'd suggest getting on that.
Terrible move if it happens
We have a top 5 venue
Crowd noise incredible due to roof / slant of builiding
Lowerr level sideline seats command monster $$ post renovation
We don't have massive money like some of these other schools
Keep the kids behind the one basket, or whatever they're doing with 118, put big money donors in the front 15 rows, then the kids behind them if you want to add more student seating (not even sure that's an option as I don't know what they're doing w/that section)
I respectfully disagree.
First, I don’t think a renovation will cost “hundreds of millions” of dollars. Probably 75-100 million, tops.
Second, the renovations will CREATE a more profitable environment, as it will include club suites and a more modern concourse with much better concessions.
Third, you can’t just give away one of the best and most iconic home court advantages just to build a shiny new arena. The RAC is one of the most unique venues in the country from an architectural standpoint, and it’s the architecture that helps create the thundering noise in the building. But this type of arena cannot be built under modern building codes and ADA requirements, so we would lose what makes the RAC unique.
They can renovate the RAC, add the suites, add the concourse (and bathrooms!!), and hopefully add another 1,000 to 2,000 seats in the old section 118 and in the corners. And VOILA, we now have a 10,000 seat SNAKEPIT.
Exactly
You don't tear down the Rac to build something new
It's a unique, distinct home court advantage that needs some tweaks & upgrades
Said upgrades keeps the character, and, of equal importance, noise in while generating much needed revenue in the form of suites, boxes and club seats
There's literally only a handful of places that compete w/the Rac when it's at it peak
CIS
AFH
The Pit
Kennel
Mackey
Don't mess w/success
Here’s the question
Wouldn’t the system be, who had the most priority points gets the seat?
If a fan has had continual seats since the 70’s, but donated just enough to qualify for those seats, he still had a ton of priority points, probably more than a large more recent donor
I could understand the university wanting to cater to a big donor now, but the system in place appears to be getting things by priority
I would hope they do not abandon that
Here's what I suspect will happen:
Rutgers will raise prices across the board. Current STH will have first right of refusal to their current/approximate seat locations. If they don't like the new price point for their seat they will be relocated elsewhere in the arena.
Rutgers will raise prices across the board. Current STH will have first right of refusal to their current/approximate seat locations. If they don't like the new price point for their seat they will be relocated elsewhere in the arena.
100%. The priority points formula created should do exactly what you say.
As a person who stopped donating to Rutgers 10+years ago I will understand when the deck is reshuffled and my cards aren’t great
I didn’t even get an offer to move down lower in 200s and I’m in top 3.5%. So there’s not many seats opening up. If renewals are 95% as someone mentioned and say 5000 seats are season tix, that’s only 250 seats with most much more likely to be 200-300 level.
Do we have any idea when this might actually happen? I need to brace myself to get absolutely screwed
Yea I expected that, but have you been told anything about possible relocations?
Bullshit if they bump people from the seats they paid for over the years.
Would be tragic if they bump a 40 year ticket holder for some new big donating applicant
And
Maybe this newbie bails after a disappointing season or two
Someone on TOS posted per their ticket rep we had 98% renewal rate and there won't be single game sales this year.
Not sure if that means we sold out on season tickets .... Or if not, whatever's left will be mini-plans.
Not sure if that means we sold out on season tickets .... Or if not, whatever's left will be mini-plans.
Teams will typically leave a certain amount for single game sales
But overall this is a great sign!
You give them up you take your chances, no sympathy on this one sorry.
If I am pushed back a few rows in the 100 section, I’d be in the lobby by the popcorn machine and I can’t see through the wall from there…That would suck.
So what’s the lesson here? If you have great seats, hold onto them?
And priority points for football and hoops tickets reset to zero if you don’t renew in some fashion?
I also hope the lessons are:
1- There’s going to be a reseating based on priority points. Presumably once the arena is refurbished.
2- Start planning for it now.
1- There’s going to be a reseating based on priority points. Presumably once the arena is refurbished.
2- Start planning for it now.
Understand that RU summarily executed an entire section that contained lifetime ticket holders when they moved on from 118. The way that was handled was abysmal.
I have a feeling nothing will be off the table, and no one will be safe from a ticket standpoint if and when the RAC gets a real once over.
I have a feeling nothing will be off the table, and no one will be safe from a ticket standpoint if and when the RAC gets a real once over.
I think the big takeaway here is that "rutgersfan1766" - a relentlessly positive guy who sees no evil, hears no evil and speaks no evil when it comes to any of the actions of the Rutgers administration "liked" that post - one that was rightfully critical of said administration.
They should refurbish the RAC, raise prices if necessary, but leave everyone where they are
Why move long term fans?
here is my position
they school should have a good indication what the seat I am sitting in, is worth on the open market
Before they say I cannot sit there, tell me what I have to donate to keep it.
I think this is the way to go...... you don't HAVE to kick out a long time season ticket holder, if he is willing to
pay what is necessary
I have played this scene out in my mind.....when I get the dreaded call by my rep that I no longer have my seat, I will ask the money question....and hope that I do get the opportunity to keep my seats
I think this makes the most sense.
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