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To the NIL haters

It’s different now because one super wealthy booster can immediately change the fortunes of any team. We just don’t have that person.

Not true.
See Oregon and Maryland.
Call up T. Boone Pickens.

The difference is now the money is going to the players and not the Athletic Department to spend however they want.
 
Can all NIL threads be merged into one and move to the CS board on another teams page?

Let me help. NIL is kind of like the Covid vaccine. Every few months you have to donate again, and each player is like a new variant. The old donations don’t help much. Some say you don’t need NIL, and if you recruit we’ll and just coach up healthy kids, they will play well.
 
Can all NIL threads be merged into one and move to the CS board on another teams page?

Let me help. NIL is kind of like the Covid vaccine. Every few months you have to donate again, and each player is like a new variant. The old donations don’t help much. Some say you don’t need NIL, and if you recruit we’ll and just coach up healthy kids, they will play well.

Nice comparison.
 
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Disagree. Pre NIL we weren't competing, but we had some momentum and hope. The recruiting class GS brought in his first year back, with many 4 stars, seems out of reach just a few years later.
Winning cures Recruiting woes
Does $ help , absolutely
Is it the only thing?
no winning cures a lot!
 
No but Greg could get that money to a third party who makes that donation and skirt around it… and if you don’t think other schools are doing this, I’ve got some beachfront property in Kansas for you

Lots of things can be done to skirt the rules. But how many coaches would risk their jobs to do it?
 
No but Greg could get that money to a third party who makes that donation and skirt around it… and if you don’t think other schools are doing this, I’ve got some beachfront property in Kansas for you
Greg could give the money directly to the Church or organization he supports.
The organization then pays guest speaker or appearance
 
True NIL is about the free open market.
What’s its never been is collectives shopping for sponsors to pay players with someone else’s money.
Anyone truly interested in supporting a player would be much better off bypassing the collective and offering the player 10 grand directly to come to your birthday party.
it's worse than the NFL and other pro sports. Since when do the Yankees and the Giants have their fans fund the players contracts? Fans support the teams thru tickets, parking, and buying the merchandise.
 
Take off your scarlet lensed glasses. Paul and Cliff don’t have any recognition outside the Rutgers Fanbase. The only thing corporations are interested in is ROI
you're still not answering my first question.
And you don't think a company like Jersey Mike's couldn't push some NIL money locally to say have Subs in NJ named after the players? The #11 Cliff Big Stuff or the #4 Paul "The Captain". TONS of cash is out there if Rutgers would just go after it/repurpose some of it.
Average Rutgers fans are NEVER going to fund this. As I said above. Only in college do the fans now have to pay the players salaries.

And for the record. As much as I HATE this model I did sign up for NTR and did make a small matching contribution.

Lastly. Thanks for the comment on the scarlet colored glasses. I got a good laugh coming from you . But my friends think I'm crazy too but worn down from 45 years.
 
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Greg could give the money directly to the Church or organization he supports.
The organization then pays guest speaker or appearance

As long as HC Schiano isn't on the governing board or anything.
Or he recuses himself on the decision because of a potential "conflict of interest".

You need to reach out to AD Hobbs.
Very good idea on massaging the rules.
 
Lots of things can be done to skirt the rules. But how many coaches would risk their jobs to do it?
A whole lot more than you realize. How do you think Jackson state got Travis hunter Al? Their boosters pre-nil? Come on now…
 
Greg could give the money directly to the Church or organization he supports.
The organization then pays guest speaker or appearance
Oh it makes sense to me. More just referring to Al’s accusation that coaches couldn’t do this. I was more pointing out that coaches paying players through a third party has been prevelant in college sports for decades..
 
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A whole lot more than you realize. How do you think Jackson state got Travis hunter Al? Their boosters pre-nil? Come on now…
There are limitless possibilities. As long as there isn't a check from RU to a player, it's basically easy to get around the rules. What schools have gotten in trouble for NIL infractions? Exactly.
 
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it's worse than the NFL and other pro sports. Since when do the Yankees and the Giants have their fans fund the players contracts? Fans support the teams thru tickets, parking, and buying the merchandise.

This has always been the revenue model of college athletics (and nobody complained).

When do the Yankees and Giants ask (beg?) fans to fund a new locker room?

I don't remember the report saying "Giants would like to fire HC Judge but don't have the funds. Looking for donors to fund the buy out."

Look at Nebraska firing HC Frost.
We could never do that because we don't have the donor support to blow $8m just to fire a HC 3 weeks earlier.
 
This has always been the revenue model of college athletics (and nobody complained).

When do the Yankees and Giants ask (beg?) fans to fund a new locker room?

I don't remember the report saying "Giants would like to fire HC Judge but don't have the funds. Looking for donors to fund the buy out."

Look at Nebraska firing HC Frost.
We could never do that because we don't have the donor support to blow $8m just to fire a HC 3 weeks earlier.
Players.. not coaches or facilities.
 
you're still not answering my first question.
And you don't think a company like Jersey Mike's couldn't push some NIL money locally to say have Subs in NJ named after the players? The #11 Cliff Big Stuff or the #4 Paul "The Captain". TONS of cash is out there if Rutgers would just go after it/repurpose some of it.
Average Rutgers fans are NEVER going to fund this. As I said above. Only in college do the fans now have to pay the players salaries.

And for the record. As much as I HATE this model I did sign up for NTR and did make a small matching contribution.

Lastly. Thanks for the comment on the scarlet colored glasses. I got a good laugh coming from you . But my friends think I'm crazy too but worn down from 45 years.
Excellent post.
Also signed up with NTR and made a contribution. Think we will see average fans contributing on some levels in the future.
 
I can careless what people do. What’s bothersome is to have the ability to help but do nothing. Yet still live here daily complaining when things do not go well. It’s a major part of many peoples lives but not enough for a 10 dollar a month that gets matched.
If everybody who you are referring to put $10 a month in, we’d have almost an empty bucket.

Use better examples. You look dim.
 
Lots of things can be done to skirt the rules. But how many coaches would risk their jobs to do it?
It doesn't have to come from Greg. He just has to rework contract so instead of someone paying him pays the NIL.
You're a smart guy. You know this. Perhaps already happening and they just want to get every dime from fans they can.
 
Players.. not coaches or facilities.

What's the difference?
And actually, yes fans have always been required to pay players salaries.

Everyone says "Players already getting free education! That's enough!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the mandatory season ticket seat fee go towards covering athletic scholarships?

As I said, college athletics entire business model is based on fans paying for coaches, facilities and players.
 
Greg could give the money directly to the Church or organization he supports.
The organization then pays guest speaker or appearance
It won't take long for abuses like this to occur. It's probably happening already.
it's worse than the NFL and other pro sports. Since when do the Yankees and the Giants have their fans fund the players contracts? Fans support the teams thru tickets, parking, and buying the merchandise.
Just make sure not to complain if you aren't donating. It's reportedly not allowed.

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What's the difference?
And actually, yes fans have always been required to pay players salaries.

Everyone says "Players already getting free education! That's enough!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the mandatory season ticket seat fee go towards covering athletic scholarships?

As I said, college athletics entire business model is based on fans paying for coaches, facilities and players.
You're way over stretching the link to what we're discussing here. This direct pay thing to select players is totally different and I'm get that I won't be changing your position.
 
It won't take long for abuses like this to occur. It's probably happening already.

Just make sure not to complain if you aren't donating. It's reportedly not allowed.

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I am and I'm not in the camp to tell others what they should do.

These "abuses" have been going on at some schools since day 1 1870.
 
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There are limitless possibilities. As long as there isn't a check from RU to a player, it's basically easy to get around the rules. What schools have gotten in trouble for NIL infractions? Exactly.
This is the third time I've brought up the concept and options and nobody wants to acknowledge the possibilities. Rutgers has at least $150mm per year to play with plus another $100mm coming from the state.

It's such easy crap to do that would be totally l legal and within whatever non existent rules are currently in place being ignored and never intended to be enforced.
 
In reality, all ya'll yelling about NIL and I'm just wondering if we're ever gonna hire an OC?
 
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In reality, all ya'll yelling about NIL and I'm just wondering if we're ever gonna hire an OC?
Does it really matter if we have one if he isn't given control?
What we do here.. is unlike anything I've seen across every bowl game I've watched.
 
What's the difference?
And actually, yes fans have always been required to pay players salaries.

Everyone says "Players already getting free education! That's enough!"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the mandatory season ticket seat fee go towards covering athletic scholarships?

As I said, college athletics entire business model is based on fans paying for coaches, facilities and players.

The difference for some of us is that scholarships have always been part of the deal along with housing, food and the rest of the stuff they get. Paying kids directly to play and doing it with zero commitment to the schools rubs some of us the wrong way. We're not interested in paying for the toys and tattoos of players already getting the college experience for free.

And when you point out that there's no real commitment from the players or coaches for anything CFB related anymore my answer is yeah, I've noticed and that's not a positive change or does it make the NIL any more palatable.

If I want professional football with a commitment to my alma mater minimized I'll watch the nfl. Well no I won't but the point stands.
 
This is the third time I've brought up the concept and options and nobody wants to acknowledge the possibilities. Rutgers has at least $150mm per year to play with plus another $100mm coming from the state.

It's such easy crap to do that would be totally l legal and within whatever non existent rules are currently in place being ignored and never intended to be enforced.
How are getting to $150 million per year to play with ?
 
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