FB Recruiting Transfer QB Athan Kaliakmanis visiting RU
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For the love of God, please post something else instead of 471 posts of the same thing. You have literally posted 471 times about one thing. You're bordering on crazy, this is how Syd Barret was at the end.
Of course not. Shelby is saying he’d be brought in to back up Gavin though which is laughable. No major conference starter is coming here expecting to back Gavin up.
"Or something like that" ? No I didn't say that. I said it's already GW's job and barring a total nosedive will continue as QB1.
Anyhow, I don't necessarily agree. Did he get an offer and accept ? That's the test.
I vehemently disagree on bordering on crazy.For the love of God, please post something else instead of 471 posts of the same thing. You have literally posted 471 times about one thing. You're bordering on crazy, this is how Syd Barret was at the end.
The guy is
No, that is not at all what I said. Get your facts straight. I said no one will come here to be a backup, ergo, he's not coming here since Schiano is already committed to GW.
That's what I said.
You said the best we would go after was an FCS type. We’re clearly targeting current starters.
If they both are here for spring practice we all will get a clearer picture of the QB room. The mere fact that Athan is a better runner than many give him credit for is an interesting dynamic. He definitely is A) more accurate at this point B ) certainly knows the offense C ) seems to be a great kid who Fleck evidently dressed down “ in front “ of the team. I’m ok with a good ass chewing for under performers but in a more private setting. If that is true then shame on the boat boy.D) Athan can throw from different angles, make ALL the throws and allows Kirk to use more quick hitters outside and over the middle. My only question is how much did PJ screw up his psyche?
More often is possibly on the verge of way more often lol.
WVU judge just issued a TRO on having to sit out for transferring a second time and I’m sure that would be no different than a third or fourth time.
I think its great were looking into a Possible change but WHY can't we bring in a higher rated QB? We ( I do) brag all the time of being a B1G University...I know most of the top 10 QB transfers will be out of reach $ but how about someone in the 10-25 range...I think RU Football is close to breaking out but WE Need a Very good QB to ever jump up...5 QBs I would Love to hear are visiting that shouldn't be out of our reach to sign
1- Jordan McCloud- James Madison
2- Dequan Finn- Toledo
3- Grayson Mcall- Coastal Carolina
4- Kurtis Rourke- Ohio
5- Chandler Rogers- North Texas
1- Jordan McCloud- James Madison
2- Dequan Finn- Toledo
3- Grayson Mcall- Coastal Carolina
4- Kurtis Rourke- Ohio
5- Chandler Rogers- North Texas
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So, you're saying Athan visiting wasn't Schiano's idea? That Ciarrocca has seen enough and decided, fvck my boss, I'm going rogue? Your Schiano hatred has made you blind to type something like this.
You mean a WV judge?
In any event, I think we can all agree that due to relaxed transfer constraints and NIL, college sports transfers are already happening, and will continue to happen, a lot more often than they used to do. If we get to a point where players are outright paid by schools, that might reverse the trend a bit due to contracts. Not really sure how that would shake out.
It remains to be seen how much all this change alters the math on how often a QB transfer instantly takes over the starting job, from a returning incumbent QB, immediately upon transferring to a team that had at least 6 wins the prior season. I would think we'd need more than a couple seasons of evidence to have a good shot at determining the longer-term trend.
Yes lol…that’s what happens when you type too fast…it was for a WVU player but it will lay the groundwork for others.
I agree. A man told me that after college graduation a long time ago, then Mrs. Robinson seduced me and it's all a blur after that.
If they're good enough to stand out in a crowd, then why would they come to RU? If they're that good, they'd either stay 'cause they're not losing their starting job, or they'd leave because they want a better NIL deal, or they're looking for a better situation to showcase their talents to NFL scouts.
RU's not about to become a pass-happy team. So that rules out the last thing.
GS said very recently that we cannot compete for top QB talent due to RU's NIL funding status (although perhaps he was saying that more to pump up donations than because it's true). So that would seem to rule out true QB standouts who will go to other programs w/more NIL funding.
And the point of the first thing is that if they're really all that great, and are satisfied with whatever NIL arrangement they have, and are satisfied with their visibility to scouts, then it comes down to playing with a team that is most likely to have great success. Or they wouldn't be transferring 'cause they'd keep their starting job 'cause they're that good. Which kinda rules out RU at the moment.
Are we really ? 1) Fleck called out his poor play publically, upsetting the family and saying he's not going to play n the bowl game 2) does he have an offer ? 3) is he coming ?
If he does come, it's because he's not welcome in MN anymore and being GW's "backup" is the best he can get anywhere. But I am not convinced he's coming here anyway.
So GS recruited 2 top QBs on the current roster.... and they are a bust?😭
Why because he was recruited to Minnesota by Kirk Ciarrocca and knows the system.
His list included 5 guys at the G5 level. There are only so many P5 programs to show your true value, let alone programs that can go .500 with that schedule and almost everyone coming back. Why do we continue to sell this program short? This is a great opportunity for a qb that wants to win games at a stable B10 program. I fully understand that RU will never land a sam Hartman or Kyle McCord, but, like the last poster said, why is it crazy to think the 20th best transfer qb would not entertain this program? The offense is run heavy but I’d imagine that was partially due to Gavin’s limitations.
Oh, am sure Schiano ok’d it but could just be Athan kicking the tires. Did he get an offer ?
Fleck demoted him and called him publicly for seemingly no other purpose than to get him to leave, so of course he needs someplace else to go. Why not call KC ?
Until the guy signs here I will not be convinced of Schiano’s interest. It’s no coincidence that of all the QBs in the portal who are clearly upgrades from GW, this guy who already has connections is the only one reported to have interest here.
If Schiano wanted someone to compete for QB1, there are plenty of better QBs available
Right. That’s my point. There would be plenty of QBs interested. Since there aren’t, I have strong doubt about Schiano wanting to upgrade or at least have a real competition.
You don't kick the tires if you didn't have some interest. You really think this staff lied to him and told him, sure fly here on your own dime and visit. But behind closed doors Schiano said, we have no interest in this kid Gavins it, let's just humor him?
Ya mean Schiano is gonna promise another QB that he is not gonna recruit a QB in the next recruiting cycle?
If they're that good, one wonders why they're not already playing at the P5 level, right?
I'm not selling the RU program short, I don't believe. I think I'm selling it realistically.
However, if we wind up landing a QB that winds up being significantly better than GW, and we won't actually know if that's the case until at least halfway through the 24 season, than that would indicate that I did, in fact, sell the program short a bit. I'll be quite happy to be proven incorrect.
Just because there may be players with an interest in RU doesn’t mean RU is interested in them, for any number of reasons.
And why would you doubt GS would want to upgrade any position, including QB, if it’s doable?
disagree. offer ? of course both sides kick the tires. that's the point of visits. not all visits lead to offers.
yes think it's already decided that GW is QB1.
Isn't everyone an upgrade ? is anyone worse ? therefore, when GW is named starter again it's a safe assumption that GW didn't want to upgrade. Promises and philosophy.
There’s a certain % of crazies on these board, between 3-8%, not only Rutgers.For the love of God, please post something else instead of 471 posts of the same thing. You have literally posted 471 times about one thing. You're bordering on crazy, this is how Syd Barret was at the end.
No. Yes. Simon is clearly worse. There are almost certainly many QBs out there who would be worse.
Since your assumptions are invalid, your conclusion lacks a logical foundation.
Portal QBs in rankings. Lots of them. All upgrades. So if none end up here, that tells you all you need to know about interest in a better qb
You're grossly oversimplifying (again) in an effort to sell your anti-GS narrative, ignoring any number of different reasons why a portal QB might not wind up here that have nothing to do with GS's interest.
Availability is not the same thing as interest in RU. And you're ignoring the fact that GS and his staff will, in some unknown number of cases, have good reasons not to have an interest in certain portal QBs with higher rankings than GW.
He's entitled to his anti-GS opinion.
But when people make poor cases for the opinions they argue, when they base their opinions on unproven, unprovable or incorrect assumptions from which they draw invalid conclusions, I feel it necessary to speak up and challenge those conclusions.
If someone could make a logical case for why GS would not want to do whatever he can to improve our chances to win in 2024, I'm open to hearing it. But nobody ever does.
It would be better to attack GS for his results rather than try to build a case that a head coach would intentionally sabotage the team's chances to win.
How do people forget Mike Teel's great season under GS? Anyone think GS thought Teel threw too much? That he'd rather just run it? GS just doesn't like risking turnovers. And it took GS1.0 awhile to get an offense together that could do more than just hand it off to Ray Rice.
Every head coach wants a good QB who will not turn the ball over and get points in the red zone. GS included.
But no-interest in any of them ? C’mon now. If looks like a duck, smells like a duck, walks like a duck, it’s a duck. Stop making excuses for not getting anyone better. Only reason would be not wanting to. And now with the extension, even less motivation.
