You obviously missed Cam’s last shot today, his drive to the basket and floater, it was a very nice play. GG would be a better player next to Cam because it would have stretched our opponents defenses and led to some easy looks.
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I watched every play of every game last year, again I will take GG playing this year. I can’t see having Gavin and Cam playing defense together it would be a huge liability for us.
And it's not like Cam wasn't a hired gun for us during his short time here. Used his year to build up his reputation and parlayed it into a dream spot. I'm sick of talking about him. Good for him though.
I think he has a better year at UConn than he would have had at RU
Not necessarily at scoring totals alone, but supporting the offense overall
Today was an example where he didn’t put up gaudy offense numbers but was excellent on the court
UConn has so many weapons that opposing teams cannot overplay him,or make him the main focus
If he is a spot up shooter as some say, well, the opportunity will be there more so at UConn, without having to force shot s
Watched today, he was constantly in motion on offense and fitting in nicely
If Spencer were looking at anyone cutting into his minutes, it would have been the threat of Griffiths. Simpson is an on-ball guard and wouldn't be cutting into Spencer's off-ball minutes... but Griffiths was brought here to fill the role Spencer did on last year's team.
Both Spencer/Mulcahy had to have seen that the combination of Fernandes/Simpson/Davis meant Mulcahy was going to spend his time more at the wing. With that trio at the PG spot, and Mulcahy/Hyatt/Mag at the 3/4 spots, it would have been down to him and Griffiths for the 2G spot.
Spencer may have been afraid that he wouldn't be able to hold off Griffiths as the year progressed, and that his minutes might suffer if Griffiths found a groove later in the season.
Even so, though, he'd already decided to come back, and the staff felt sure enough about his return that they sent him to media day. It was money that turned his head - and the rest is likely post-decision justification for that.
Both Spencer/Mulcahy had to have seen that the combination of Fernandes/Simpson/Davis meant Mulcahy was going to spend his time more at the wing. With that trio at the PG spot, and Mulcahy/Hyatt/Mag at the 3/4 spots, it would have been down to him and Griffiths for the 2G spot.
Spencer may have been afraid that he wouldn't be able to hold off Griffiths as the year progressed, and that his minutes might suffer if Griffiths found a groove later in the season.
Even so, though, he'd already decided to come back, and the staff felt sure enough about his return that they sent him to media day. It was money that turned his head - and the rest is likely post-decision justification for that.
he came ,stayed a year, helping the team with his play year after 3 years at LOM and then he left Rutgers for UConn.
Cam is not someone to get sentimental about, he's been replaced
Cam is not someone to get sentimental about, he's been replaced
Where's Hawk at...lol. He was the main cry baby inventing lie after lie about Cam being too slow, Cam losing minutes, etc. But he's playing 29 mins/game and scoring around 16 ppg to go with over 4 assists and 3 rebounds for the #5 team in the country.
I would say scoring 18 is pretty gaudy when he didn’t play the last 6 minutes after they went up by 20. They have to play Texas tomorrow and Hurley took the opportunity to rest him.
Gavin wasn't recruited to fill his role...lol. They were supposed to both be on the floor together this season stretching out defenses for when Simpson and Fernandes drove to the basket.
Yes, Spencer was concerned about losing minutes, so what does he do? He transfers to a vastly more talented team, where he has started every game and would be well over 30 minutes a game except UConn keeps blowing everyone out, and gets to empty the bench for big parts of each 2nd half.
Not for this season, but for next. Griffiths absolutely is going to be looked at to be the starting 2G next season, and will fill that catch-and-shoot deep threat role that Spencer filled for us last year. Ideally, he'd have been backing up Spencer this year as he got acclimated and developed his game at this level - but I'd have expected him to start cutting more and more into Spencer's minutes as the year went on.
He went to a team that was looking for a 3P volume shooter after Hawkins left. His freshman competition would be Jayden Ross (Rivals #80.... but 111th at the time Spencer entered the portal) instead of Gavin Griffiths (Rivals #23).
If there was any consideration of another player taking his spotlight, it would have been Griffiths not Simpson.
Personally, I think it all came down to dollar signs. Cooley reached out and flashed cash, and people close to him said he needed to capitalize on his value - so he entered the portal, and UConn was the highest bidder. Anything else is secondary, and more a justification that he can use when asked instead of just saying "I went for the cash".
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Cam wasn't losing minutes and Gavin has been playing the 3 so far this year. Next year is the same in my book because you have Dylan at one guard spot and Simpson/Davis at the other. Gavin at the 3 and Ace is the 4.
If Mulcahy were still on the roster, he'd have been at the 3 this year. When Spencer left, Mulcahy was still undecided. Fernandes was clearly brought in as a grad transfer to run the point, and Simpson is a combo guard. If Mulcahy/Spencer had both returned, Davis would have only seen spot minutes.
And with Mulcahy spending most of his time at the 3, with Hyatt/Mag also splitting time at the 3/4, Griffiths would have been competing more for 2G minutes.
But Spencer/Mulcahy didn't come back, so the expected offense/roles had to change.
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I’m sure he will have a long well written response adding up to nothing.
My point isn’t we are better without him, my point is, if he was here it would take minutes away from Gavin. Getting Gavin more minutes this year so he is better next year is more important to me than having Cam this year. People can say they would be playing together but I cannot see a defense where we play Gavin and Cam together this year.
Cool story !! How many of them hit one of the biggest shots in rutgers basketball history ?
In all seriousness, I don't know what we're even arguing about with Cam. Did he leave for money? Yes. Were there also non-monetary reasons? I dunno, probably. Is that okay? Yes. Do I need to care about him because he played here for one year? No. Would he be a valuable piece if he were still here? Yes, obviously.
Is any of the above disputable?
Is any of the above disputable?
None is disputable . So not sure the hate he gets here. People loved him last year and we probably got him to come her in a similar way Uconn got him to go there . Plus he’s an alum.
Yes , he doesn’t play on this years team.
Yes, he is a rutgers graduate . Yes, he is always a scarlet knight.
I think there is some somewhat deserved (or at least understandable) "hate" for the timing of his departure. But I think the vast majority of it is similar to "hate" that Jacob Young got on here after his transfer; it's more a reaction to posters constantly harping on Cam than it is a reaction to Cam himself.
The only thing I don't miss about Cam is his lisp. Everyone talking shit about his playing ability or saying we are better off without him just don't understand the game or how valuable Cam is to a high major team.
This thread is so ridiculous .Any team with Cam and Gavin on the same team will be a better Rutgers team. They would play at the 2 and 3 at the same time and make Rutgers more dangerous. Any one that doesn’t see that just knows crap about basketball ..Cam’s defense was good enough with a bunch of steals and he was on the court late so anyone criticizing his defense without taking into account all the other things he did last year is just a hater . We would have 2 of the better shooters in the country on the floor at the same time.
Now everyone can hate how late he left leaving Pike scrambling and that sucked but basketball wise no way.
Now I am starting to love how all 3 of our guards are playing and improving so the veteran loss is not that impactful as well getting time to get better every game.
Now everyone can hate how late he left leaving Pike scrambling and that sucked but basketball wise no way.
Now I am starting to love how all 3 of our guards are playing and improving so the veteran loss is not that impactful as well getting time to get better every game.
I agree but he could have handled the situation better and entered the transfer portal much earlier than he did. Or at least be open with Pikiell about exploring the possibility of joining another program.
By all accounts Pikiell thought he was coming back and he didn’t enter the portal until late May.
You’re right I don’t really ever say stuff like that. But there are rare occasions.
Spencer left Pikiell and the team hanging out to dry by waiting until late May to enter the portal. He could have handled it much better.
F em.
I don't know about this. Right now the 3 PG are playing 80 minutes (A Will injury). If Cam was here wouldn't that shrink to 60?
Right now in OOC we are better with the 3 PG playing 2 spots on D because of their lateral quickness in our press. I think once real games start it is very debateable whether we are better defensively with Cam as the 2 just based on his length. we all know Cam can NOT stay in front of anybody. I just don't know how important that really is any more in today's game and our defensive schemes.
Nope. The bullshit narratives people are concocting are so annoying.
We wanted him to stay, he got offered more money to go play for the defending national champions, so he went “Yea, I’m gonna do that.”
It’s really that simple. He didn’t get pushed out by the staff. He didn’t feel slighted because Derek Simpson was taking his “positional minutes.” He got offered more money to play for a better team.
When he was at RU, many opponents keyed on him because he was our main offensive threat.
To score, sometimes he had to speed up, or force up shots
With UConn, if he is a bit patient, he will get clearer looks, and will look like an even better team player
Yes, he got 18, but it came a bit easier
Thx. I tuned in.
Paul with 9 assists. The offense looks like it is give the ball to Paul. He slowly gets to the paint and finds open guys. UW scoring 40 vs SDState in 1st half
Paul is 1-2 from field
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Credited with 9 assists in the 1st half. That's 2-3 games worth for some guards.
So refreshing watching someone whose sole purpose is to get the other 4 the ball.
