I disagree... It's most of these kids last game ever. You play football to the final whistle.
Unbelievably classless move by Stanford
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I disagree... It's most of these kids last game ever. You play football to the final whistle.
the band crap was far worse to me....that's elitist BS...and I love Stanford the institution
but the this band guy is an ass
have seen this out of Duke on BB side...so many other places you can go I don't see why
that is chosen...
as far as run up...I don't like it...but I don't obsess on it either
but the this band guy is an ass
have seen this out of Duke on BB side...so many other places you can go I don't see why
that is chosen...
as far as run up...I don't like it...but I don't obsess on it either
So do not play back ups who gave it their all for 4 or 5 yaers and play amd compete like the starters everyday- cause it their last game as well and for them it is even more joyous beacuse they got to play in the Rose Bowl. Even though I hated Flood as a coachwhat he did 2 years ago I will always remember- against USF gave the 3rd string kicker a chance to hit a 25 yeard fg late in the game so he will have his name in the Rutgers record book.
His team was w/in one or two scores. Do the math. And that's professional sports.
Stop being a lamb. Think for yourself. Stop parroting what ESPN says and writes. Those folks want to protect the big brands, because that's $$ in their pockets. That's why all of a sudden, a few years back, running up the score, almost overnight, stopped being considered bad sportsmanship, but indeed a manly virtue.
In amateur athletics sportsmanship counts for something, or should.
This whining about teams still trying to score near the end of the game with a safe lead just amazes me. Do you feel the same way after the last Stanford td Iowa was still calling time outs and attempting to score? The game was out of hand. Play to the final gun and if you do not want them to score stop them.
I do not think passing the ball is bad sportsmanship. I have said before that the team I coach for had a tough year this year. I am a DC. I hate when coaches take knees. Play offense. Get my kids better. Get me better. Make us stop you.
I have coached college football. Play the game. Stop us and make us stop you until the clock stops.
It would be much better to let them close out their careers with a showing of good sportsmanship. It may help building the strong character and values that will benefit them later in life.
I guess we can agree to disagree.. If Iowa is still trying to win the game, then it's not over. Go for the kill shot. I hope The days of flood kneeling the ball against Howard in the first half are over.
I was coaching a high school game (when I was a run game coordinator and RB coach) 6 or 7 years ago. We were winning 24-10 with 6 minutes left in the fourth. We were running the ball to kill the clock. They called time outs. We ran a play action pass on 3rd and long with about 4 and a half minutes left. We scored.
The other coach flipped out. Complained to the AD, complained to us, complained to our AD that we should not have scored.
Which way does it go? By calling a time out he is saying there is still a chance for his team to beat mine. If he thinks that then we need to make sure we win. We score and he complains.
The other coach flipped out. Complained to the AD, complained to us, complained to our AD that we should not have scored.
Which way does it go? By calling a time out he is saying there is still a chance for his team to beat mine. If he thinks that then we need to make sure we win. We score and he complains.
They were still calling time outs 3 and 4 6:00 left in a 14 point game, still a game. Now Stanford up 22 with 3 minutes left Have your starters run a conservative play pull your starters give them that respect then put in your back ups- give them some PT in the Rose Bowl.
I agree with putting back ups in. But I still think its fine to pass. Let the 3rd string WR catch a pass. But it is also college. Play defense.
Taking it a bit OT but wasn't it Charlie Strong as a Louisville Assistant that went after Schiano AT HALFTIME for running up the score in Mike Teel's 6-7 TD game?
I believe that was Locksley. Strong was at UF at that time as DC. Kragthorpe was HC at Ville.
I don't care if a team runs up the score or pulls its starters and takes a knee the last 10 minutes of a game. Nor if a team plays to the end trying to force fumbles from opponents in a V formation.
I remember the days when Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska was favored by 40 or more over their opponents and beat that spread easily .
Beat-downs are hard to take when you're the fan of the school that takes that beating, but if you are for the one that whipped butt right to the final second, you'll find an excuse for it.
I didn't like Paterno running up the score, but felt it wasn't something I was going to whine about
and just accept that was the type of person he was.
His starter wasn't at QB so it wasn't like he decided to go all out, just decided to make RU have to stop the O he put on the field and not stop them himself.
Just like the weaker teams in the old SWC & Big 8 had to stop the top teams in those conferences
from scoring from the opening kickoff to the final snap, Iowa had to stop Stanford, not Stanford stop themselves.
That's the way I see it.
But I did get upset every time I took the points when it was 40 or more and still lost the football bet.
Usually I made them part of a 10 team parlay that I bet $1 and got 100 to 1 odds and not just on one of the high spread games.
Maybe to end the whining and crying about running up the score in last few minutes of the game, the HC of the team getting a beatdown should be able to wave a white flag signifying his team gives up and the game is ended.
I remember the days when Texas, Oklahoma and Nebraska was favored by 40 or more over their opponents and beat that spread easily .
Beat-downs are hard to take when you're the fan of the school that takes that beating, but if you are for the one that whipped butt right to the final second, you'll find an excuse for it.
I didn't like Paterno running up the score, but felt it wasn't something I was going to whine about
and just accept that was the type of person he was.
His starter wasn't at QB so it wasn't like he decided to go all out, just decided to make RU have to stop the O he put on the field and not stop them himself.
Just like the weaker teams in the old SWC & Big 8 had to stop the top teams in those conferences
from scoring from the opening kickoff to the final snap, Iowa had to stop Stanford, not Stanford stop themselves.
That's the way I see it.
But I did get upset every time I took the points when it was 40 or more and still lost the football bet.
Usually I made them part of a 10 team parlay that I bet $1 and got 100 to 1 odds and not just on one of the high spread games.
Maybe to end the whining and crying about running up the score in last few minutes of the game, the HC of the team getting a beatdown should be able to wave a white flag signifying his team gives up and the game is ended.
More boorish behaviour from Stanford, a player's comments below.
''The Big Ten has a lot of pub, (but) they had a couple big blowouts the last two days, so it kind of goes to show they got exposed,'' Murphy said. ''It shows a four-team playoff probably isn't the best way, because you don't know who the four best teams are.''
I guess this clown didn't see the OSU or Mich games, but what makes him really foolish is Stanford lost to Northwestern, and Stanford lost to Oregon who lost to MSU.
''The Big Ten has a lot of pub, (but) they had a couple big blowouts the last two days, so it kind of goes to show they got exposed,'' Murphy said. ''It shows a four-team playoff probably isn't the best way, because you don't know who the four best teams are.''
I guess this clown didn't see the OSU or Mich games, but what makes him really foolish is Stanford lost to Northwestern, and Stanford lost to Oregon who lost to MSU.
didn't see anything wrong with it.......more than 2 mins left... Iowa had just tried an on-sides kick, meaning they still considered the game within reach (at least in some sense), and Stanford wasn't able to run out the clock with 3 kneel-downs.
If you didn't like it - then I assume you are also very mad at Iowa on the next series for using timeouts and trying to score too?
If Stanford had taken a shot on the VERY last series, I'd agree -- but with 2:50 to go -- you keep playing.
p.s. - way more disgusted with that band
p.p.s.- don't compare to Penn State years ago -- that was with 1:05 to go, - all they had to do was run into line twice and game over... but, McQueary had to cover the spread.
If you didn't like it - then I assume you are also very mad at Iowa on the next series for using timeouts and trying to score too?
If Stanford had taken a shot on the VERY last series, I'd agree -- but with 2:50 to go -- you keep playing.
p.s. - way more disgusted with that band
p.p.s.- don't compare to Penn State years ago -- that was with 1:05 to go, - all they had to do was run into line twice and game over... but, McQueary had to cover the spread.
No, Strong was at Florida back then, I not sure but I think the DC's name was Ron English?
Let's start by getting the sequence right.
Iowa scored at 2:46, had some timeouts left and tried an onside kick at 38-16. They don't have much of a chance, but still trying at this point is reasonable. Once the onside kick fails, it's over.
Stanford calls a short pass to get McCaffrey the 100/100 game, and that's OK if a little bit bogus given the game was over.
And then, Iowa does not call a timeout, because the game is over and they are conceding. It's time to let the senior scrubs say they played in the Rose Bowl, run a couple plays into the line, and call it a game. Yes, the time would not have worked out perfectly, but hey, give them the ball and let your defensive scrubs get into the game. Win win all the way around and good sportsmanship.
But, at 2:00 and the clock running, Stanford throws a bomb to the end zone, complete at 1:54.
Huh? This isn't "playing til the last whistle" or any other such kind of idiotic slogan-worshipping. This is pure and simple running up the score. What reason is there to throw 40 yards into the end zone other than to run up the score on a team that is surely not expecting you to be such amazing jerks. In the Rose Bowl yet.
This isn't war. It isn't Sherman through Georgia. It's not the Bulge or Gallipoli (hell, at Gallipoli, there was honor among the combatants). It's a football game. Game.
For those of you who believe running up the score against an opponent who has conceded is the highest form of sport, I'm sure you were crushed when Stanford took a knee at 00:11 instead of trying to make it 52-16. They could easily have fooled Iowa again and the victory would have been so much sweeter.
And those kids who practiced their rears off for Stanford for four years and are now not able to tell their grandkids "I played in the Rose Bowl." Harden up. We really needed those last seven points.
Except that Stanford had more than covered the spread, their QB isn't a degenerate gambler, and their coach isn't a sanctamonious run-it-up dirtbag who promised his sleazeball alumni that he would cover the spread.
