We need to go on a field trip to review opponents facilities
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And also 3 of those teams are in leagues without the money and resources of our actual opponents now.
Money is needed not field trips.The RAC facilities are sub par as compared to B1G competition and most other schools that take college basketball seriously.Kicking the can down the road has been the approach which might continue in some aspects until 2021 when full B1g funding starts.
Hobbs already toured Michigan State. No one needs to see what Nova and Cuse have they aren't in our conference and aren't our peers
we should be touring every Big 10 facility because that's where we play
Hobbs already said that half of the MAAC has better facilities in most sports than RU
we should be touring every Big 10 facility because that's where we play
Hobbs already said that half of the MAAC has better facilities in most sports than RU
In this area of the country, and the high cost of doing business,what facility out there is one Rutgers could realistically clone?
You go for it Al. Maybe you might want to bring Pat Hobbs, the guy responsible for building the place, with you. Sounds like you are about to fund this - the Rutgers Al practice facility
Um. Isn't there already a plan in place that is being fundraiser for? Uh, wouldn't it be more valuable to just donate to that??
Facilities are and excuse for why a 15 win team isn't getting to 20. It's not an excuse for why a team is going 0-conference play for the last 30 some odd games and getting beat by 25+ points on a nightly basis.
Here is some of NU's stuff. Woman's hoops and wrestling have the same stuff in the same complex but all 3 are separate from each other.
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&&ATCLID=208558660&DB_OEM_ID=100
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&&ATCLID=208558660&DB_OEM_ID=100
We screamed last year about facilities and got major movement. The 25 million dollar tax break was in large part to public outrage. The facility process is in motion - things are moving along - plans are set.
But right now you need somebody that can coach - the lack of a shiny practice facility was not the reason 33 three pointers were made against us the past two games. Coaching was
Do the new one's come with much wider rims for the home team?
Hobbs is on it. He knows. It isn't a secret. Evaluation time is long past. It's fund raising time.
I am curious what your point is Al? Of course we know that our facilities are worse than 75% of the Power 6 Basketball Conference schools. Are you planning to tour all 300 Div 1 schools (out of 350) who are better than RU this year? If so I suspect our facilities are better than 60% (wild guess, but you get my point).
Perhaps you are only going to tour the schools that were better than RU the first two years of EJ's tenure? That would be roughly half of 350 Div 1 schools. Do you think you are going to find RU's facilities worse than all those schools?
So we get it: facilities are holding us back from being a top tier B1G program. Perhaps from even making us a mid B1G program. The ugly reality is that our current situation is a result of the following (no specific order):
Legacy of Mike Rice Scandal
Facilities
Injuries (this year)
Coaching
Recruiting/Talent (really a coaching issue since they are the ones recruiting but to be fair, facilities impact this aspect)
My opinion is the Coaching is the most critical of the elements. A good coach/recruiter, while hampered by facilities, will still get reasonable talent to compete in the B1G; coaching them up will determine if we end up mid-pack or respectable bottom of conference (not the embarrassing bottom we currently are). Like it or not, new shiny upgraded facilities are years away (perhaps even many years away) which is why I think it even more important for Hobbs to pull the levers he can right away.Facilities
Injuries (this year)
Coaching
Recruiting/Talent (really a coaching issue since they are the ones recruiting but to be fair, facilities impact this aspect)
A big part of coaching is recruiting .Michigan State makes 3 pointers like they are layups and Rutgers doesn't have one consistent outside shooter.The focus of college basketball has changed dramatically with the 3 point shot and the shot clock and Rutgers is woefully unprepared in talent and coaching.
In theory, of course you are correct, but recruits don't necessarily align themselves into "Big Ten recruits" and "ACC recruits" and "Big East recruits." By simple geography, a lot of the kids we're recruiting also are being recruited by Villanova and Syracuse and likely not being recruited by Iowa and Nebraska, and it would be swell to show why we're a superior choice in all areas. You know, when we are one.
Maryland doesn't have a practice facility either. In fact, basketball shares a practice gym with the volleyball team. I realize that the RAC is not the Xfinitu Center, but my point is that a practice facility isn't everything -- good facilities can simply mean a really nice stadium.
Maryland has an NBA style arena (Xfinity Center) with an auxiliary gym attached (mainly used for volleyball practice) that the team sometimes uses for workouts. Maryland does not have a basketball only practice facility, they practice in the Xfinity Center.
Orrrr it could be that we are spent physically because we've been playing a whole season with 7-8 scholarship players? I love how you guys think the hoops players are robots who don't fatigue, feel emotion or are remotely affected by the injuries this year.
I'm not sure why people doubt Al's very being...
He's a real guy and a die hard RU fan. You may not agree with the stuff he says, but it comes from a genuine place
He's a real guy and a die hard RU fan. You may not agree with the stuff he says, but it comes from a genuine place
If I could like this a billion times I would...excellent observation.
Look at the stats when we played Central Arkansas early in the season. Or the first game he coached against Florida A&M. Or any number of awful efforts over the last three years. Or his awful NBA rep as a defensive coach. He doesn't coach defense at all. And never will
I want to bash my head against a wall every time I see someone give Jordan leeway.
The guy's gotta go! End of story.
Our fans lack perspective. Off course, if you've only seen the RAC, thats all you know, as the majority of our fans don't travel. Facilities are the root cause of Rutgers Basketballs ills. People need to put themselves in the recruits place to understand why its so difficult for Rutgers to recruit. Taking a field trip and seeing what our opponents have will help educate the fanbase.
the only reason we don't play good defense is that we don't have the big men and we don't have enough players.
i don't think you understand how physically exhausting college basketball can be. like skoolie said, we're not trotting machines out there. the cumulative physical toll that college basketball takes on the body is significant. as the season has worn on our guys seem slower because they are tired. far too few players playing far too many minutes.
I can assure you every single person on this board is painfully aware of how bad our facilities rate.
You go for it and report back.
And our rotten facilities are not the reason Eddie Jordan can't coach. That's all on him.
RutgersAL-- using your theory, 6 scholly players, no big man theory, please explain then how Duke is able to play consistently 6 or 7 players this year, but also in most years as Coach K never goes deep into his bench, yet, They're always one of the top ranked defensive teams...yes he has better talent, but it's because he coaches Defense and holds his players accountable for playing Defense....just like Izzo did last night ripping into his team for allowing RU to shoot 67% in the first half....Eddie would celebrate holding a team to 67%
Actually, maybe Al can go there...and not report back. Like stay there.
This argument is flawed. Like our coach
But that's not who we recruit against. Look at the rosters of Nova and Cuse and you will see a good representation of NJ players, for instance, who would've made our squad more competitive. Even Seton Hall plays in a much nicer facility than the RAC.
People have heard Hobbs say that our facilities of the world are not competitive. But we're going to have to do a lot more than buying nosebleed seats, chicken fingers, and dippin dots, if we are to move the program forward. The purpose obviously is to spur giving.
It's amazing how good your defense can be when you have a 7'1" center patrolling the paint, and you've got tremendous athletes, with hops, at all other positions. Duke plays 7 because they can. We play 7 because we have no other choice. Get Freeman and our bigs back and our defense will be much better.
People like you were saying the same thing about Schiano, when his teams were losing 80-7 to WV. Our biggest issue is lack of personnel.
That's fine but those posters who pretend that this roster isn't decimated by the injuries show that you guys haven't played, coached or even had a son play a high level of any sport. It has affected this team in multiple ways.
To get an idea I suggest you guys play pick up basketball twice a week but with only 4 guys on the court and do it for 3 months and against people that are much more skilled than you. That's essentially what our guys have been doing. Then they go home and if they read this board probably feel like killing themselves after reading all the asshole comments about them.
Facilities is a really big deal. Anybody saying the RAC as is should be enough to win is sticking their head in the sand. I'm no BK118 but I'm been to a bunch of the other guy's venues. Lots of informal poking around and formal tours of the Louisville and Michigan State hoops practice facilities. We are not even in the same ball park and honestly what we have planned is barely a start in the right direction.
And it's not just hoops. We've got a ways to go. And it is unfortunate but until we are fully B1G vested it's going to be hard.
And it's not just hoops. We've got a ways to go. And it is unfortunate but until we are fully B1G vested it's going to be hard.
